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Pixel Fold for $1800 (not including tax). That is outrageous and overpriced! Also, the bezels on Pixel Fold are unacceptably thick for 2023. :confused:
The bezel is due to the hinge. By doing so, they have made the phone much thinner than other foldable phones.

So the unfortunate thing is, you either get a thinner phone with a larger bezel or the reverse.

At least for now, until foldable phones become better in design.
 
Why are you linking the wrong deal? LOL.

Here is the deal for the Fold 4. And the same deal is coming to the GPF except it is going to be $1,000 off instead.

If you care to read it, you can clearly see you can get a cheap Android device off Swappa to fulfill the $1,000 tier.

Mate, you clearly don't know anything about carrier rates in America.

I'm a post-paid AT&T customer. $65 is on the cheap side, if anything. I can keep my plan and still use the GPF for $500 total for 18 months.

Can you find cheaper plans? Sure. But you are looking at pre-paid service and the like and I doubt anything will be cheaper than say a Mint Mobile plan for $30 a month. And that will have limitations versus what I'm getting with AT&T.

So yes, $500 to use the GPF for 18 months is an excellent option here in the States.
We’ll see when they new list the Google Pixel Fold, i doubt it will be a plan deal like this on release date.
Galaxy Fold 4 is from August 2022.
 
We’ll see when they new list the Google Pixel Fold, i doubt it will be a plan deal like this on release date.
Galaxy Fold 4 is from August 2022.
There is no need to doubt. Whenever a new iPhone is released they offer the same deal at launch. They just want to lock you into a certain invoice level for 36 months.
 
No silly, it's just as easy to RAISE laptop prices too.

Bonus: Fans will rationalize it to shocked others with words like "inflation", "supply chain", "covid" and "other." Such words can apparently rationalize ANY price for anything.

"We" just did that with ASD. Apple was able to remove the whole computer + keyboard + mouse and sell us what remained of an iMac 27" for the same "starting at..." price of the former iMac 27. Not only did we buy with great enthusiasm... but we did so against absolute front-facing camera issues AND also jump in thread after thread pushing others to buy it- and only it- too.

Personally, I expect rumored MBair 15" to be rolled out at a surprisingly HIGH price... as in " why not just buy a MBpro?" pricing territory. It will make no logical sense relative to the MBpro... until the next MBpros are launched at relatively higher prices too.

Right now, there is Mac Mini configs seemingly in conflict with Mac Studio configs. I expect resolution to that "problem" to be handled in the same way (meaning higher Mac Studio pricing in the next round).
Except that we’ve now officially heard that so-called ’inflation’ was actually ‘greed-flation’: large corps were profiteering using the excuse of the (actual) supply chain challenges in order to rake in more profit. I mean, sure, some people might believe inflation is a factor in the ever-rising prices, but the reality is Wall Street’s demand to see ever-increasing profits is what leads us into an even more unaffordable world (for many).
 
What convenience?
It’s a thicker heavier phone, a smaller tablet, and it’s less durable than both.
It’s a series of compromises, compromises that are not even necessary.
It’s more expensive than a separate phone and tablet, it has a worse battery life than a phone and tablet combined would, it has very widespread durability concerns, and if your phone breaks or dies, your tablet also breaks or dies.
However, the folding phones when folded are significantly smaller than an iPhone stacked on an iPad Mini. The Fold will fit in my pants pocket, the iPad mini will not. The Fold probably isn't any thicker than the Mophie battery case I put on my 3GS which fit in my pockets without any issue; I accepted that thicker size for the benefits it provided me. Lots of small technology has compromises due to their sizes, like the iPad mini compared to a larger iPad, but users are willing to accept these compromises due to the benefits provided even if you don't understand those benefits.

It's ok that you don't understand the appeal. There are plenty of slab phones available.
 
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Let’s hope Google has better luck with their foldable phone than Samsung
In any case seeing is believing
Let’s see if the Google flip has beat the problem of the crease in the screen showing. As we all know Samsung hasn’t beat the problem yet
 
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Google today hosted its 15th annual I/O developer conference in Mountain View, California, highlighting advances in artificial intelligence, changes to Google Photos, updates to search, and more.

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Pixel Fold

The Pixel Fold is Google's first foldable smartphone, and it's set to launch in late June. In terms of design, it is similar to the Galaxy Z Fold, as it opens from a smartphone form factor into a tablet form factor.


The Pixel Fold features a 7.6-inch display when unfolded, with a resolution of 2208 x 1840 and a 120Hz refresh rate. When folded, the Pixel Fold has a 5.8-inch display with a 2092 x 1080 resolution. It is powered by the latest Google Tensor chip, and is equipped with a 4,821mAh battery.

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There are three cameras, including a 48-megapixel main camera, an ultrawide camera, and a telephoto camera with 5x optical zoom. Other features include a fingerprint scanner built into the power button, facial recognition, IPX8 water resistance, and a 180-degree hinge mechanism at the edges. Preorders for the Pixel Fold are available today, and it is priced at $1,800.

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Pixel Tablet and Pixel 7a

Alongside the Pixel Fold, Google today also introduced a new 11-inch Pixel Tablet and the more affordable Pixel 7a smartphone. The Pixel Tablet includes a Charging Speaker Dock that turns it into a smart home control hub, and it is priced at $499.

The Pixel 7a is a low-cost smartphone at $499, and it offers an alternative to the Pixel 7 and Pixel 7 Pro.

Google Photos

A new "Magic Editor" in Google Photos adds AI editing features, with select Pixel phones to get early access later in 2023. Magic Editor can make complex edits automatically, tweaking specific parts of an image to remove unwanted objects, changing composition by repositioning the subject, and updating elements like the sky.

Magic Editor can also create new content when repositioning an image to change the way cropping and resizing works, and it is functionality that is likely to expand beyond Pixel phones in the future.

Google Maps

Maps is gaining an updated Immersive View feature that uses AI to fuse Street View and aerial images together to create a digital model of the world for route planning purposes. It will show bike lanes, sidewalks, intersections, and parking for an entire trip, along with information on weather changes throughout the day. The feature will roll out in the coming months in select cities like San Francisco, Tokyo, LA, London, and New York.

AI

Artificial intelligence is a major focus at this year's I/O event with Google announcing several new initiatives.... Click here to read rest of article

Article Link: Google I/O: $1,800 Google Pixel Fold, AI Updates and More
Personally, I like the fact that Apple is not up to par on the type of AI that makes it ever harder to tell whether thoughts and images were conceived and created by an identifiable human rather than by an anonymous software algorithm. We do not need to grow the culture of fake & deception — more than enough of it is already being spread by social media …
 
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That fold looks horrendous in the hands. The construction, design, plastic-screen reflections were just all over the place. I think this form factor is very far away from it's final stage and years and years out from Apple, because one thing for sure, they will not release anything like this.

I did like that their tablet ideas, with the dock and a clever case. The dock also comes with tablet at 499$ which seems like a great value. (Ui looked hideous though). And multi user support, hear that Apple?
It looks good in renders and when photographed perfectly in studio lighting. But when they used the over the shoulder cam and it unfolded, I thought it was broken. The glares from that cheap, plastic, screen protector looking cover moved across the screen like a lava lamp in fast motion and it was embarrassing. That alone is a dealbreaker for all foldable devices, never mind the high price for Android OS on a tablet.
 
That Fold's price is ridiculous, but Google is now selling the Pixel 6A for $350 (now that the 7A got released for $499). It might be a year-old Android phone, but that's not bad at all if you need a new-ish smartphone and don't care that it's not an iPhone. 👀
 
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Loving how Google (via their trade in partner) have quoted ‘up to’ £660 for my iPhone 14 Pro Max 128gb I opt to trade it in for the Pixel Fold but only ‘up to’ £438 if I went down the 6a/7a route - a company I’ve used prior have quoted ‘up to £745’ 😂
 
Fold phone is very tempting to me because I go out with my iPhone and iPad mini every day.

iPhone 15 pro max’s camera has to be super outstanding or I am leaving
 
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At least the Google Fold folds from a useful item (phone) to another useful item (tablet). Unlike the Samsung Fold that goes from useful phone to useless weird square brick. What was Samsung even thinking?
I was about to explain how this isn't true, but a commenter on The Verge (surreal_nyc) put it better than I could've:
Based on specs, the two inner displays are exactly in the same size. They are both the same diagonal (7.6 in) and same aspect ratio 6:5. The only difference is the orientation: landscape vs portait.

Of course, Samsung is confusing everyone by insisting on using eighteenths for aspect ratio specs. But 21.6:18 = 1.2:1 = 6:5.

Please no, I hate the trend of phone going into $2000... I just need a phone to message, GPS and lookup. Nothing else and stop adding things for entertainment purposes I don't need!

I don't play games on phone, stop making more powerful to drain battery.
I don't watch movies on phone, stop making big phone.
I don't take photography with my phone, stop making it so expensive and huge camera bump.
Stop stop stop!
They just released a Pixel 7a that's a quarter of that price ($500), does exactly what you want it to do, and doesn't twelve into the realm of excess. The only complaint I can see is the size still being too big, but apart from that, it's the exact phone you want.

Speaker-dockable home-based tablet that lets me quick-switch into different user profiles? YES PLEASE, APPLE!
A/I wallpapers? Yes please, Apple!
You think it's a coincidence that Apple hasn't implemented a feature as easy as profiles into the iPad's OS by now? They ant you to buy several iPads for each family members who need one. And it works, too. Which is why it'll take a while from them to let go of that revenue stream and add a logical, useful feature that lets people buy only as much as they need. It's sad to see Google, who's failed on tablets more times than I can count implementing something this amazing before Apple.

Hi everyone in the world.

I am Google from Alphabet Soup Company.

I sprinkle letters AI on all our soup.

And everyone believes it is intelligent soup!

It’s just algorithms and pattern recognition.

But it sounds much snappier if we say AI all day.
Does it really matter what they call the intelligence features if they work? Their features do. It's up to the individual to determine how useful that added functionality is, but at least it's working as advertised.

Wow! Imagine if Apple brings this to iOS Wallpaper. Game changer to the wallpapers. Way ahead of the game.

Bruh, Apple killed the fantastic wallpaper type they already had (Dynamic/Live Wallpaper), much less this new fangled stuff. They're evolving, just backwards.

Even the Google IO Keynote itself became better than Apples Keynotes.

Google had real people reactions, instead of speaking marionette cut scenes with senseless fly overs and zoom in’s.
This is something that's going to be perpetually subjective, but I'll say that I agree. In 2021 (maybe 2020 too, but I didn't watch that entire event, just clips, so I can't say) I felt their presentations were more realistic in scale (smaller, less grandiose) and approachable. I remember the Pixel 6 unveiling event felt like I was in a small city shop instead of flying around a multi-billion dollar campus.

I never really liked the old out-door stage ones though, like what we're seeing here.

I’m not totally against a foldable, but… with this pricing, it makes absolutely no sense.
You can literally buy an iPhone 14 pro, an iPad Mini and a small tablet bag to carry them both in… and still be $300 plus away from the pixel fold.
To me that’s just a better deal in every way.
Ostensibly, but as someone who's considering the iPad mini very seriously (yet again) right now, is that actually the case? For me, I'd at least have to bump up the storage on that iPad mini from the get go, but practically, it doesn't stop even there. For it be the grab-n'-go type of device I want, I'd be picking the cellular variant and having to pay the monthly add-on to use my service on an iPad. I can't be tethering this thing to my phone manually every time. That already eclipses the price of the Pixel Fold, and if I were to account for data, it eventually would no matter what.

Then if we account for actually taking it on-the-go to most places, I'd probably have to pick-up some sort of messenger bag. That's something that every foldable has over a small tablet: being pocketable. The overall setup for similar functionality is both more expensive and more convoluted.

Now, in fairness, the iPad mini has the pencil, which to many people might be useful… including me, which is why I hesitate on the Pixel Fold.

I can think of a solution to that problem, it’s called a backpack. Or a handbag.
Slip your iPhone and iPad Mini in there and boom! The benefit of a foldable (easily carry both devices), none of the drawbacks.
So, in the few instances I have to put my smartphone in my backpack for whatever reason, and I happen to be walking about without having remembered to take it out, I literally have to find somewhere that's not a dirty footpath/road to take my backpack off, put it down, unzip it, and take the phone out. The bag's too floppy and filled with things that genuinely can't fit into a pocket for me to hoist it up and unzip it and take something out at the same time. This isn't a practical solution for something I'd want to have on-hand.

Meanwhile at Apple AI Village...

Apple Watch Ultra warned me with a notification that my shower noise hit 90 decibels, but kept shut when i had the music volume at nearly 100% in my car, far over 90 decibels for around 45mins.
This is actually really sad. One of the features I really feel drawn to in the Apple Watch is its audio level monitoring. It will be really disappointing if it turned out to be uselessly inaccurate.
 
apple will look on with interest.
This is just paving the way to higher and higher prices.

Once google normalises the $1800 price point, samsung will normalise the $2000 price point, and back and forth. Once everyone is used to $2500 phones, apple will bust onto the market with a $3000 foldable.
 
Pixel Fold pre-ordered! It is going to be a brutal wait until end of June. 🤣 We will see how it stacks up to my Z Fold 4.
Right on! Do please share what it’s like when you get it.

Maybe if you report back how amazing it is, it’ll convince Apple to put one out. (Because of course as everyone knows Apple reads these forums and listens to us 🤣)
 
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