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To be an even more fair price comparison, you can’t use any of Apple’s recent products, because everything after 2019 outperforms the processor used in the pixel fold.
But also… Explain to me why you would need cellular on both? Like give me a usecase where turning your phone into a mobile hotspot doesn’t get the job done?
And you also can’t say “battery”, because if you have both separate devices, you can use them both until they separately die. With the fold? If the phone dies, the tablet also dies. If the tablet dies, the phone also dies.
You clearly don't understand how to do a fair price comparison. I'm going to disengage now. Have a good one.
 
Meanwhile at Apple AI Village...

Apple Watch Ultra warned me with a notification that my shower noise hit 90 decibels, but kept shut when i had the music volume at nearly 100% in my car, far over 90 decibels for around 45mins.
 
Please no, I hate the trend of phone going into $2000... I just need a phone to message, GPS and lookup. Nothing else and stop adding things for entertainment purposes I don't need!

I don't play games on phone, stop making more powerful to drain battery.
I don't watch movies on phone, stop making big phone.
I don't take photography with my phone, stop making it so expensive and huge camera bump.
Stop stop stop!

Sheesh, nobody is making you buy this stuff. Check eBay: Plenty of perfectly good $100 (or less!) phones out there which will meet your needs.
 
$1800 doesn't sound bad at all, especially since now that it's completely normalized to be spending over $1000 for a regular ol' plain iphone.
 
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You clearly don't understand how to do a fair price comparison. I'm going to disengage now. Have a good one.
Oh I very much do, and you have to take specifications into account.
And compared to the iPhone 14 Pro and the iPad mini, the Google pixel fold in terms of pure specifications is lacking.
It has a processor comparable to Apple’s… From 2019. Both the iPhone 14 Pro, even the iPhone SE, and the iPad mini have a better processor than it. That is a mark against the fold. That reduces its value to me.
Next, we have to talk about durability, and… Again both the iPad mini and iPhone 14 pro destroy the pixel fold when it comes to durability.
These things matter, and no matter what way you flip it in terms of pure value an iPhone and iPad is better.
If we talk about selling them on the used market at a later date, the iPhone and iPad come out even further ahead. You can usually recuperate at least 70% of the cost of an Apple product years after it releases… Very much not the case with pixel products.
Literally the only advantage of the pixel Fold is android (if you’re into that) and the fact that it folds, which I wouldn’t even call an advantage.
I don’t think the fact that it folds means that it’s worth almost $2000.
 
$65 before taxes and fees.
Too much, and all priced in.

A decent contract without any phone you get for far less(approx. 15€ here in the EU incl. tax, fees).
I bet there are cheaper contracts in the US too, for $10 or $15.

$65*18=$1170+$1000(old phone market value)=$2170
and tax on top.

Compared to 18*$15=$270+(any phone price), and you don't even know if and what kind of deals you'll get for the google fold phone.

Your "trade in a cheap $100 used android device purchased from Swappa I’ll get $1000" was very unrealistic, too.

The AT&T Deals
Then you’ll get:
Up to $1000 in bill credit with smartphone trade-in value of $240 or higher
Up to $700 in bill credits with smartphone trade-in value of $130 to $239
Up to $350 in bill credits with smartphone trade-in value of $35 to $129

To qualify for $1000 credit, minimum Trade-In value must be $240 or above after device condition questions have been answered.
Eligible devices:
Apple iPhone: 12 Pro, 12 Pro Max, 13, 13 mini, 13 Pro, 13 Pro Max, 14, 14 Plus, 14 Pro, 14 Pro Max
Samsung Galaxy: Z Fold4, S23, S23+, S23 Ultra
Google: 7 Pro

Source: https://www.att.com/buy/legal/22100050

All these phones listed by AT&T have a far higher "used market" value than $100.
The hardware and plan installment usually runs 36-mo, so it's $5-$6 for 36months for the hardware(=$216) + the old used phone market value + plan $.

Anyway, a massive money loss + debt flag, better pay cash and not subsidized.
 
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The price is absolutely ridiculous, but overall this looks like a very nice phone. It's the first phone in a long time I actually want to buy (but won't, for various reasons).

I honestly believe many here need to do a bit of soul searching and ask themselves how they'd feel about this if it were an iPhone. I don't think foldables will replace the classic smartphone, but some here really seem to want to ignore the utility of foldables for the sake of it, and I'd bet a lot of money that the second Apple announces one the mood will dramatically shift.

Also, after the last few I/Os there were always a couple of really cool software features I would absolutely love on my iPhone, whereas iOS just has become really stale in the quality of life department. Yes, the SOS thing is really useful when/if you need it, but where is the rest? Magic Eraser, the AI editing, call screening, message transcription, universal translator etc etc. What did we get? Copy/paste from an image that I personally can't think of a use case for. I'm trying to remember a single feature in the last few years that made me genuinely excited about an iOS update and I can't think of a single one.
 
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How many times have you seen suits with backpack on? Zero. Manpurse isn't convenient either vs pocketable.
I see a lot of suits with...a briefcase or a messenger bag. My friends were suits...and thats what they use. Because they dont actually need a tablet and a phone they need a laptop and a phone.
 
impressive design on Google’s part in terms of thickness—we’ll have to see if the bigger screen actually looks that seamless, especially with prolonged use. (it’s not lost on me that the design already leaked, I can see the related article section, I just by-and-large do not pay attention to Android rumors on this site.)

$1800 though…everyone else here has said what needs to be said. people already (rightfully, especially at the higher storage tiers) say the 14PM is crazy overpriced and it’s still $200-700 less.
 
I see a lot of suits with...a briefcase or a messenger bag. My friends were suits...and thats what they use. Because they dont actually need a tablet and a phone they need a laptop and a phone.

A lot of this feels like conversations that we're going on around ~2007. Who would ever want to watch a show or a movie on a tiny screen. Browsing the web on the go, ridiculous, that's what the laptop is for. Typing an email on a touchscreen, unbearable!

I do agree that there are plenty of use cases where you are absolutely better off with a phone and a tablet, or a phone and a computer, or even a phone, tablet and a computer.

You know what I really want a foldable for? For quickly opening it up to read a book on a crowded train and then using it as a regular phone while I'm at work. Back to the big screen while I'm browsing the web or play a quick game over lunch or on a break and then watch a show on the train back home.

For me the foldable would win out over a tablet because I can always carry it with me without the need for a bag, because it's there when I have some unexpected downtime because someone is late. The sale reasons, really, why the smartphone initially won over dedicated devices.
 
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Too much, and all priced in.

A decent contract without any phone you get for far less(approx. 15€ here in the EU incl. tax, fees).
I bet there are cheaper contracts in the US too, for $10 or $15.

$65*18=$1170+$1000(old phone market value)=$2170
and tax on top.

Compared to 18*$15=$270+(any phone price), and you don't even know what kind of deals you'll get for the fold phone.

Anyway, a massive money loss + debt flag, better pay cash and not subsidized.
Your "trade in a cheap $100 used android device purchased from Swappa I’ll get $1000" was very unrealistic, too.

The AT&T Deals
Then you’ll get:
Up to $1000 in bill credit with smartphone trade-in value of $240 or higher
Up to $700 in bill credits with smartphone trade-in value of $130 to $239
Up to $350 in bill credits with smartphone trade-in value of $35 to $129

To qualify for $1000 credit, minimum Trade-In value must be $240 or above after device condition questions have been answered.
Eligible devices:
Apple iPhone: 12 Pro, 12 Pro Max, 13, 13 mini, 13 Pro, 13 Pro Max, 14, 14 Plus, 14 Pro, 14 Pro Max
Samsung Galaxy: Z Fold4, S23, S23+, S23 Ultra
Google: 7 Pro


All these phones listed by AT&T have a far higher "used market" value than $100.
The hardware installment runs 36-mo, so it's $5-$6 for 36months(=$216) + the old used phone market value + plan $.

Source: https://www.att.com/buy/legal/22100050
Why are you linking the wrong deal? LOL.

Here is the deal for the Fold 4. And the same deal is coming to the GPF except it is going to be $1,000 off instead.

If you care to read it, you can clearly see you can get a cheap Android device off Swappa to fulfill the $1,000 tier.

Mate, you clearly don't know anything about carrier rates in America.

I'm a post-paid AT&T customer. $65 is on the cheap side, if anything. I can keep my plan and still use the GPF for $500 total for 18 months.

Can you find cheaper plans? Sure. But you are looking at pre-paid service and the like and I doubt anything will be cheaper than say a Mint Mobile plan for $30 a month. And that will have limitations versus what I'm getting with AT&T.

So yes, $500 to use the GPF for 18 months is an excellent option here in the States.
 
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