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Why would you need a cellular iPad if you’re already carrying a cellular phone?
We are literally comparing carrying both at the same time to a folding device, if you’re carrying both, you don’t need a cellular plan on both.
To be a fair price comparison, you have to price the iPad Mini with cellular because the Pixel Fold has cellular built in as well. Also, my iPad Mini had cellular because why would I not want cellular on both devices?
 
I am not sure I can convince you, but I sold my iPhone 12 Pro Max and gave my wife my iPad mini after I bought the Z Fold 3, and I've never regretted it once. I would also never go back to using two separate devices when I can have both in one device. I now have the Z Fold 4 and soon the Pixel Fold. I owned every iPhone from the 4 to the 12 PM so I'm not some android fanboy either.

That's good to hear, and I'm certainly willing to give it a shot. I've been giving a lot of thought to making the plunge once my 12 mini kicks the bucket.
 
Please no, I hate the trend of phone going into $2000... I just need a phone to message, GPS and lookup. Nothing else and stop adding things for entertainment purposes I don't need!

I don't play games on phone, stop making more powerful to drain battery.
I don't watch movies on phone, stop making big phone.
I don't take photography with my phone, stop making it so expensive and huge camera bump.
Stop stop stop!
There are many phones which meet your needs, no reason to complain about one which is obviously not targeted at you.
 
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Why would you need a cellular iPad if you’re already carrying a cellular phone?
We are literally comparing carrying both at the same time to a folding device, if you’re carrying both, you don’t need a cellular plan on both.

It's for professionals in big cities that need a competitive edge and don't have time for tinkering with hotspot. They're in professional attire so no cargo pants to haul two devices.
 
To be a fair price comparison, you have to price the iPad Mini with cellular because the Pixel Fold has cellular built in as well. Also, my iPad Mini had cellular because why would I not want cellular on both devices?
To be an even more fair price comparison, you can’t use any of Apple’s recent products, because everything after 2019 outperforms the processor used in the pixel fold.
But also… Explain to me why you would need cellular on both? Like give me a usecase where turning your phone into a mobile hotspot doesn’t get the job done?
And you also can’t say “battery”, because if you have both separate devices, you can use them both until they separately die. With the fold? If the phone dies, the tablet also dies. If the tablet dies, the phone also dies.
 
I’m not totally against a foldable, but… with this pricing, it makes absolutely no sense.
You can literally buy an iPhone 14 pro, an iPad Mini and a small tablet bag to carry them both in… and still be $300 plus away from the pixel fold.
To me that’s just a better deal in every way.

You can buy a good starter Apple ecosystem with that cash. A M1 Macbook Air or M2 Mac Mini for $800, an iPhone SE3 for $429, and either an iPad, Apple Watch, or a pair of AirPods.
 
It's for professionals in big cities that need a competitive edge and don't have time for tinkering with hotspot. They're in professional attire so no cargo pants to haul two devices.
I can think of a solution to that problem, it’s called a backpack. Or a handbag.
Slip your iPhone and iPad Mini in there and boom! The benefit of a foldable (easily carry both devices), none of the drawbacks.
 
I’m not totally against a foldable, but… with this pricing, it makes absolutely no sense.
You can literally buy an iPhone 14 pro, an iPad Mini and a small tablet bag to carry them both in… and still be $300 plus away from the pixel fold.
To me that’s just a better deal in every way.
Some people will pay more for the convenience of carrying one device instead of two.
 
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Some people will pay more for the convenience of carrying one device instead of two.
What convenience?
It’s a thicker heavier phone, a smaller tablet, and it’s less durable than both.
It’s a series of compromises, compromises that are not even necessary.
It’s more expensive than a separate phone and tablet, it has a worse battery life than a phone and tablet combined would, it has very widespread durability concerns, and if your phone breaks or dies, your tablet also breaks or dies.
 
If Apple brought out a £2k foldable I imagine many of the naysayers would be all over it. I don't know what it's like in the states but Google devices (and foldables) are all pretty common here in the UK.

It remains to be seen if the general populace cares about AI but the more it proliferates the more important it will become and Apple is currently at the back of the race.
 
If Apple brought out a £2k foldable I imagine many of the naysayers would be all over it. I don't know what it's like in the states but Google devices (and foldables) are all pretty common here in the UK.

Even if Apple made one I wouldn’t buy it. I don’t like foldables for multiple reasons. They skimp on cameras, they skimp on CPU, and most of all that damn crease.
 
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