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Have every conversation recorded, permanently stored, and analyzed for targeted advertising? No thanks.

The last thing I want is to be talking to someone about something, then go online and start seeing ads for it.

I switched to DuckDuckGo months ago and have never looked back. Bye bye google.
 
I have a lot of friends and family in Canada and all they have nothing but bad things to say about their carriers. I'm guessing you share their thoughts!

I think one of my family members pays something around $80/mo for 200MB of data.

Funny, I'm on T-Mobile and when I go to Canada I get unlimited data for free!

That family member didn't really shop around... I have 6GB of data for a bit less than that...
 
Google's business model is built around collecting information on people. This is just one more avenue for them to collect more information. Text messages, call logs, GPS location, mobile browser data, you name it. They surely already had access to this sort of information from Android phone users, but now it covers all phone users who use these two carriers.
 
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Come on guys, yeah we know Google is collecting all kinds of data but they dont want to be a carrier to just to collect data. If they are doing this and collecting ridiculous amounts of data they are getting in enough trouble.

What are they doing with Google fiber? They dont use it to collect the data of of those clients they are driving their bottom line. Getting people faster to the internet where their money is. Advertising. Any more fast traffic they get onto its Google services is money for them.

And sure they want to **** with the other mobile carriers like they did with fiber but they really want people to use Google services. Thats where their money is at. And the same goes for the iphone. They wont slow down iphones or ridiculous things like that popping everything full with ads. Its about traffic that goes to their services.

If Google has a real problem with the iphone they could just drop app development for it or treat the development for ios really bad and slow. But they are providing good apps - wow?

How much money makes google from android anyway? The OS is free the only thing is they make some money of of the playstore and thats it. And I dont know how much that even really is. Yeah I think they are getting 30% too, but most playstore apps are free and the developer account is only 25 bucks
 
Actually, this could be a big deal, if Google allows you to use either network (TMob or Sprint) in any area, depending on which coverage is stronger. It would require phones that support both CDMA and GSM, but this could be a big deal. I can't recall any other MVNO's that use two different networks, and let you bounce between them. I think it depends on how they implement the agreement and structure with both operators.

If that's the case...say a hybrid phone that switched between Tmobile GSM and sprint CDMA depending on who has the better signal, then I might be inclined to switch from Verizon.
 
Here we go again. So just like Google did when they introduced their first phone, expect cheap wireless service with cheap outsourced support by e-mail, maybe phone if they decide to pay a few extra pennies. Like they say you get what you pay for!

-Mike

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Combined they will have ****** coverage still lol

-Mike

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Couldn't agree more! Google is just using this for their own advantage, so they can spy on your even more!

-Mike

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Sprint and Tmobile need the cash so for them this is awesome, they are laughing all the way to the bank!

-Mike

Lol
 
Apple is in the business of making money. Last time I checked AT&T and Verizon make lots of money.

They are already in the industry, you would be lying to yourself if you don't think apple doesn't at least ponder the thought

This is just an outstanding example of why dummies who post on message boards are not instead of running fortune 500 companies (or even small companies). You are just illustrating how little you understand about the business side of the technology industry if you think that apples shareholders would be pleased with a entry into the wireless carrier market.

Go ahead and take a look at the income statements of the two companies, and if you need to read a book before you do so, feel free. Once you have read that book and compare the income statements (and then took a look at the stock prices of the relevant companies) come back and tell me if your view has changed.
 
This is just an outstanding example of why dummies who post on message boards are not instead of running fortune 500 companies (or even small companies). You are just illustrating how little you understand about the business side of the technology industry if you think that apples shareholders would be pleased with a entry into the wireless carrier market.

Go ahead and take a look at the income statements of the two companies, and if you need to read a book before you do so, feel free. Once you have read that book and compare the income statements (and then took a look at the stock prices of the relevant companies) come back and tell me if your view has changed.

I don't think anyone especially myself who posts here thinks they can run a Fortune 500 company lol. I actually have stock I. AT&T and know the stock price of both. Why are you emphasizing stock price so heavily ?

You're a bit excited about the topic lol and rude
 
To save the user data usage and improve the user's experience, other cell phone providers should give the user the option to block the transmission of Google advertisements.
 
This is awesome. Google will drive competition; hardcore. They'll introduce features others such as StraightTalk, Boost Mobile, etc. do not offer. With competitive pricing!

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaas!

And a pre-roll ad before you can answer the phone. :D
 
There must be some endgame goal here for Google. What are they trying to ultimately achieve. It's like a master chess player making seemingly random and unconnected moves that manifest their brilliance in the end.

There is. And, I'm surprised no one has posted it yet. I haven't made it through all 136 comments, but yours is the best place to start. Google is partnering with US wireless companies now, to enable US deployment of their modular phone in the near future:

Project Ara (Wikipedia)

Project Ara (their home page)

Google to launch modular smartphone with switchable parts (trial in Puerto Rico)
 
Come to canada!

and who would they sign a deal with? WIND? lol cause I doubt the big 3 would want to give any share over to a MVNO....they haven't done it in the past as all the current MVNO's are owned by the big 3 (Koodo, Virgin, Chatr, Fido, and the dead public mobile and Solo Mobile).
 
What are they doing with Google fiber? They dont use it to collect the data of of those clients they are driving their bottom line. Getting people faster to the internet where their money is. Advertising. Any more fast traffic they get onto its Google services is money for them.

If Google has a real problem with the iphone they could just drop app development for it or treat the development for ios really bad and slow. But they are providing good apps - wow?

Google did make most of their money from advertising until the mobile first revolution killed that - now they NEED data collection to stay relevant.

And Google's iOS apps are hardly "well done".

There is. And, I'm surprised no one has posted it yet. I haven't made it through all 136 comments, but yours is the best place to start. Google is partnering with US wireless companies now, to enable US deployment of their modular phone in the near future:

Project Ara (Wikipedia)

Project Ara (their home page)

Google to launch modular smartphone with switchable parts (trial in Puerto Rico)

Project "Ara" is a niche product which has no future.
 
I suspect Google is after additional cell phone information about their users. There is likely a lot of information Google could glean about people from the phone calls they make and receive that Google isn't currently able get from mere web searches and history.

Also, SMS.
 
Project "Ara" is a niche product which has no future.

Maybe so, but the poster to which I replied asked "what is Google's endgame?"

Google may abandon the entire effort when it doesn't pan out. They have certainly done so for other ventures.

But, by reselling the wireless service themselves, they can control almost the entire experience.
 
If I could get unlimited LTE from T-Mobile at my house for equal to what I pay Time Warner I would switch. Even if I had to put a small antenna outside.

You should look at your actual data usage rather than insisting on unlimited. I looked at my monthly home data usage and found I use 30 GB/month. I can get that from AT&T with more bandwidth at a cheaper price than I'm paying for it from Comcast right now.

Unfortunately, ping with AT&T cellular is about 200 ms vs 20 ms with Comcast. Not a huge deal if all you ever do is surf the web and watch videos, but this would generate a noticeable amount of lag in online video games.
 
There must be some endgame goal here for Google. What are they trying to ultimately achieve. It's like a master chess player making seemingly random and unconnected moves that manifest their brilliance in the end.

Datamining to sell ads. That is all Google has ever done. Provide free services which will yield information on their users, and sell that data to advertisers. Literally, that is all Google does.

Search? They mine your queries.
Gmail? They mine your email.
G+? They mine your likes.
YouTube? They mine what you watch (and sell video ads).
Drive? They mine your files.
Maps? They mine where you have been, are, and will be (this is also the plan with the self driving car).
Glass? They mine what you're looking at.
Chrome? They mine everything you browse on the web.
Android? They mine what you do on your phone.
Auto? They mine what you do in your car.
With Project Ara (where they provide broadband) and this (where they provide cellular) and SpaceX (where they're working on providing satellite internet) and loon (balloon based internet) they're looking to expand beyond just tracking what you do with one browser or specific websites into tracking literally everything you do with your internet connection:

- Watch internet videos
- Play internet games
- Exchange iMessages
- Your SSH connections and file transfers that cross the internet

On and on.

In all of it, Google asks for, not your money, but for everything about you. There is nothing Google does just because it's the right thing to do - they do everything just to mine data on everyone to sell to advertisers. You are the product that they're selling. Everything that they pitch as products to you is nothing more than cheese in their mouse trap.

By the way, Google doesn't hold a monopoly in anything yet. You can buy your own internet domain so that you don't have to send mail through gmail. DuckDuckGo is superior to Google Search.
 
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