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If Google got caught selling and/or sharing data you surely have a serious source with proofs you can provide!

Facebook got caught not Google, but Facebook was just too dumb and trusted others blindly… well deserved.
If you want to believe that, you do you.

It's also cute that you two are liking each other's posts while simultaneously denying reality. That's a great hill to die on.
 
They've been caught selling user data repeatedly. This is a thing that's happening. Saying it's not happening doesn't make it true. What you're not grasping is the reality of the current state or personal privacy.
Then prove it? Please, provide one, single reputable source that backs up your claim that "Google has been caught selling user data".

I'll save you a little time - you won't succeed, because it hasn't ever happened.
 
They've been caught selling user data repeatedly. This is a thing that's happening. Saying it's not happening doesn't make it true. What you're not grasping is the reality of the current state or personal privacy.

You're making some pretty bold claims, so some sourcing might be helpful for your argument. If your response is something along the lines of, "It's not my job to do your research for you", then your point fades away like so many other dogmatic comments on this forum.

The truth likely lies somewhere in the middle. This article is a great look (keeping in mind the source has a bias against Google already) at the entire process of data collection and ad sales:

 
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Of their $259 billion 2021 revenue, $209 billion of it was from advertisement sales, which represents over 80% of their revenue. Are you sure they're a tech company? Because I'm certain, beyond all reasonable doubt on Earth, that Google is an advertising company.
If you honestly think there is no tech in the algorithms they use I don’t know what to tell you.
There will be a huge amount of work that goes into doing what they do. Open your eyes.
 
Then prove it? Please, provide one, single reputable source that backs up your claim that "Google has been caught selling user data".

I'll save you a little time - you won't succeed, because it hasn't ever happened.


You're making some pretty bold claims, so some sourcing might be helpful for your argument. If your response is something along the lines of, "It's not my job to do your research for you", then your point fades away like so many other dogmatic comments on this forum.

The truth likely lies somewhere in the middle. This article is a great look (keeping in mind the source has a bias against Google already) at the entire process of data collection and ad sales:

"Google says" ... what a great source. :rolleyes:
 
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If you honestly think there is no tech in the algorithms they use I don’t know what to tell you.
There will be a huge amount of work that goes into doing what they do. Open your eyes.
Sorry, I think you've misunderstood me. Apple, for example, is a technology company. Most of their revenue comes from first-party sales of hardware and supporting premium services.

Google, on the other hand, their revenue is made up on the sales of advertisements to the tune of over 80% of it. Yes, Google will totally build and run technologies to a very high degree, but they are not themselves a technology company.
 
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Google’s bread and butter is advertising. Why would they want to hinder that with a sandbox?
 
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"Google says" ... what a great source. :rolleyes:

Good lord. Did you read anything besides the first two words? The article is from the EFF, not Google, and is meant to show how Google's claims, while technically true, might be misleading. If this is how you debate, then have a nice afternoon.

Edit: I apologize, my response was a bit harsh, I was just frustrated that you clearly didn't take the time to look beyond the title (which is cutoff anyway).
 
Some practitioners of mass tort allege they have evidence that will convince a court that Google sells personal data in online auctions.


Don't know the status of the suit, may have been tossed. Mass Tort Attorneys and Google are peas in a pod with regard to honesty.
 



"Google says" ... what a great source. :rolleyes:
That’s still ongoing…
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Selling a behavior is not your selling data.
Sure thing they sell behaviors like, a simple example: at 10-11pm 3mil male users in country X searches for pr0n.
Let us raise Pr0n Ads at this time span, or put up an auction before providing these stats.
That’s statistics data not actually your data.

They have access to your data, no question, just like Apple does, but they don’t sell it.
Apple does the same over Apple Store Connect to its Devs, they provide statistics, maybe not through additional auctions yet.

The auction part is new to me, but not proven yet, but it doesn't matter much, selling statistics and starting an auction for statistics, does not change anything. They don't sell your data.
 
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Of their $259 billion 2021 revenue, $209 billion of it was from advertisement sales, which represents over 80% of their revenue. Are you sure they're a tech company? Because I'm certain, beyond all reasonable doubt on Earth, that Google is an advertising company.

If you want to approach it that way, most newspapers aren't newspapers, most magazines aren't magazines, most television channels/networks aren't television channels/networks, most radio stations aren't radio stations, etc. A lot of these companies get most of their revenue from advertising but I don't think people would typically refer to them as "advertising companies". They offer products, services, etc. for which they get paid largely through advertising but it's their products, services, etc. that more define the type of company.
 
Apple does the same over Apple Connect, maybe not auctions yet.

Not quite. Apple only targets ad data on its own properties, the Ap Store and Apple News, not on the web generally and you can opt out of targeted and location based ads.

I wish Apple didn't do any of that but find them way more trustworthy than Google. There is no moral equivalence here.
 
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Google has always had the worst security for its users. They could care less about your privacy. You best believe that anything that you post with Google is shared for the world. Google shares YOUR information with advertisers, business partners, sponsors, and other third parties. I would not use Google if Android was the only phone type left in the world. Google is the worst company and Facebook is right there with them.
 
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Google’s bread and butter is advertising. Why would they want to hinder that with a sandbox?
They're not. ATT hurt Facebook, but actually helped Google- they still have search data, and with Facebook's data collection abilities hobbled, advertisers switched over to Google (and Amazon). It doesn't surprise me at all that Google wants to implement this on Android- they help themselves at the expense of on of their biggest competitors. They're lucky Apple came up with this first, otherwise there would be an antitrust cloud hanging up over all this- now they can just claim they are following current privacy standards. Facebook is really screwed though.
 
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Google has always had the worst security for its users. They could care less about your privacy. You best believe that anything that you post with Google is shared for the world. Google shares YOUR information with advertisers, business partners, sponsors, and other third parties. I would not use Google if Android was the only phone type left in the world. Google is the worst company and Facebook is right there with them.

 
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Google has always had the worst security for its users. They could care less about your privacy. You best believe that anything that you post with Google is shared for the world. Google shares YOUR information with advertisers, business partners, sponsors, and other third parties. I would not use Google if Android was the only phone type left in the world. Google is the worst company and Facebook is right there with them.
Google's security extremely high, and they will care very much about protecting it, because it's highly proprietary and at the core of their business.

Google does not sell or share any user data. They provide advertisers and businesses with tools to publish advertisements that can target people in Google's proprietary data - that is very different from selling the data itself. Don't worry though, it's a common misconception.
 
If you want to approach it that way, most newspapers aren't newspapers, most magazines aren't magazines, most television channels/networks aren't television channels/networks, most radio stations aren't radio stations, etc. A lot of these companies get most of their revenue from advertising but I don't think people would typically refer to them as "advertising companies". They offer products, services, etc. for which they get paid largely through advertising but it's their products, services, etc. that more define the type of company.
Yeah, your logic is totally sound. Thing is, Google's primary products (like the physical print in a magazine, or the TV content on a network), are Google AdSense and Google Ads. Don't be fooled into thinking Google's biggest product is Gmail or search.
 
If just 1% of the global population used it, that’s 70 million income over the year. I wouldn’t be doing it to make money. I’d be doing it to better the quality of life for people. The more people that used it, the more income therefore more money to spend on backups, server, people etc
As long as you understand that you’ll be putting some of your money in on top of that 70 million each year, then you’ve got a good understanding of the scale of such an effort.
 
If just 1% of the global population used it, that’s 70 million income over the year. I wouldn’t be doing it to make money. I’d be doing it to better the quality of life for people. The more people that used it, the more income therefore more money to spend on backups, server, people etc
Could you resist the urge if Facebook came to you and said “we want to buy your company for $500 million”.

You and your kids/family never have to work again?
 
Yeah, your logic is totally sound. Thing is, Google's primary products (like the physical print in a magazine, or the TV content on a network), are Google AdSense and Google Ads. Don't be fooled into thinking Google's biggest product is Gmail or search.

Google’s "products" include a wide variety of software and hardware products/services (see list below). Google is a technology company that happens to generate most of its revenue for their technology product/service offerings through advertising.

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Seeing that it’s Google, the feature may never actually get rolled out, or just end up getting cancelled eventually.

I will believe it when I see it.
 
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