Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Google Looks to Distance Android from Apple vs. Samsung Ruling
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
To be fair, he supported his dismissal of SeattleMoose's rant with every bit as much evidence as SeattleMoose supplied in making his rant.
That couldn't possibly be because that was the time that capacitive screen technology was becoming affordable... noooooooo.
Samsung and Google standing on a corner.
Google: Hey, Samsung. Look! Here comes the bus.
*PUSH*
Google: Hey, Samsung. Look! Here comes the bus.
*PUSH*
Also Android was always designed to be device agnostic. Further - many manufacturers had full touchscreen phones in the pipeline prior to the launch of the iPhone.
The same silly debunked images and posts appear in every one of these threads we should really have one thread with a sticky.
Hahahaha. Always a classic.
Very clear. Though, in defense of Google, they knew this day would come sooner than Samsung. They even had the prudence to warn Samsung.
When did Google 'backpedal'? Here's what they said, and I'll help you by reading between the lines a bit:
Translation: We don't think all Apple's patents are valid, and look forward to them being challenged.
Translation: We don't think all Apple's patents are validbut even if they were (and we're not saying they are!), you can't pin anything on usgo after Samsung.
Translation: We don't think all Apple's patents are valid.
Translation: We don't think we should have to work around, or pay through the nose for, features that are part of an invalid patent.
You know, you can agree or disagree with them but I don't see a lot of backpedalling there!!
Wait. Because *some* Android phones are distinctly and obviously different from the iPhone, *ALL* Android phones are? Your argument is so wrong it's not even invalid anymore.
Just curious how many people buy HTC phones because of Sense or Samsung phones because of TouchWiz. I get that these hardware OEM's think they need something to differentiate themselves but is their custom skin the reason people buy their phones?
Can we get some kind of bs filter on these articles?
I'm going to go ahead and say that I know absolutely nothing of patent law, unlike most posters on here who are apparently all patent law karate ninja masters who develop operating systems in their spare time between making billions of dollars and running global companies.
After reading these threads, I have no idea what on earth just happened.
I'm going to go ahead and say that I know absolutely nothing of patent law, unlike most posters on here who are apparently all patent law karate ninja masters who develop operating systems in their spare time between making billions of dollars and running global companies.
After reading these threads, I have no idea what on earth just happened.
What the hell??? In the UK this was the first:
http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/t-mobile-g1-black/4505-6452_7-33283585.html
Thanks for the translations.
A statement issued by Google that says anything less than:
"We intend to support Samsung in their efforts, and ultimately seek to challenge all of Apple's patents in this arena"
...is a backpedal.
If Apple tried to challenge a device due to it's colour, and it wasn't thrown out of court and Apple fined for wasting time no matter what any fixed patent states then it would be the most hypocritical biased worthless unlawful court in the land! Black and white phones existed before the iPhone, as did silver and blue etc etc, as surprising as that it
Actually there were 2 prototypes floating around, thats only one of them. What is it with this site and only picking certain evidence to make hugely flawed comparisons?
These were both of the Android prototypes that were being used before iPhone, not just the one with the keyboard. Android was originally intended to go on a whole variety of form factors.
Click to embiggen
Worst press release ever by a Google spokesperson... now Google & Samsung will put out a marketing ploy to let people think this means less innovation, less competition.
The problem is Apple innovates, and all the rest are just way behind. I am getting more annoyed by everyone in the game besides Apple. They all are falling. Dell & HP may have to hookup rather sooner than later, and in this new case with Samsung falling, Apple will keep on getting stronger, and the rest will follow(the exact opposite of innovating).
Bunch of followers these kids are... Google should just stay quiet. Samsung might want to do the same.
The problem is Apple innovates, and all the rest are just way behind. I am getting more annoyed by everyone in the game besides Apple. They all are falling. Dell & HP may have to hookup rather sooner than later, and in this new case with Samsung falling, Apple will keep on getting stronger, and the rest will follow(the exact opposite of innovating).
Bunch of followers these kids are... Google should just stay quiet. Samsung might want to do the same.
Worst press release ever by a Google spokesperson... now Google & Samsung will put out a marketing ploy to let people think this means less innovation, less competition.
The problem is Apple innovates, and all the rest are just way behind. I am getting more annoyed by everyone in the game besides Apple. They all are falling. Dell & HP may have to hookup rather sooner than later, and in this new case with Samsung falling, Apple will keep on getting stronger, and the rest will follow(the exact opposite of innovating).
Bunch of followers these kids are... Google should just stay quiet. Samsung might want to do the same.
I am getting more annoyed by posts like this one....
The problem is Apple innovates, and all the rest are just way behind. I am getting more annoyed by everyone in the game besides Apple. They all are falling. Dell & HP may have to hookup rather sooner than later, and in this new case with Samsung falling, Apple will keep on getting stronger, and the rest will follow(the exact opposite of innovating).
Bunch of followers these kids are... Google should just stay quiet. Samsung might want to do the same.
Really? It feels like it's been years since Apple did anything with iOS that wasn't simply playing catchup to Android and Windows Phone 7.
YouTube: video
Actually there were 2 prototypes floating around, thats only one of them. What is it with this site and only picking certain evidence to make hugely flawed comparisons?
These were both of the Android prototypes that were being used before iPhone, not just the one with the keyboard. Android was originally intended to go on a whole variety of form factors.
Click to embiggen
Any source for this? The first image I ever saw was the one shown well after the iPhone when they showed off a very rough touch device.
EDIT: Also, that YouTube link brought me to a music video. Very strange.
Looks like Android was copying blackberry before it decided to copy the iPhone OS
Oh please! If you think NOT giving the consumers what it wants in technology is a bad business model, don't ever go into business.
Look what happened to RIM when they didn't "Wake up". They went down.
Google and all of the other handset manufacturers recognized a winning formula and offered competitive products. Not every phone maker copies slavishly everything Apple does.
Apple offered a great product that people wanted. It made sense for other companies to follow suit. If you compare it to designing clunky model T forms for cars instead of the sleek Maserati that the people want just to appear different, you are just begging to go into the hole.
There HAS to be a first when it comes to innovative products, ie flatscreen TVs etc. Trying to change the shape of it just so it doesn't seem like you are copying is stupid. Some items require a certain form function to be practical.
So yes, Apple led the way and Google and the rest followed. There always has to be a first but assuming that others won't follow an excellent idea and try to improve on it is just plain naive and stupid.
In the long run we as consumers benefit from ground breakers and those who attempt to improve on what the ground breakers offer.
It's only a backpedal if that was their original statement. Did they ever say that?
Anyway, I will agree with you on one thing… Google is smart. As I see it, they came out and pretty much said that, without really saying it… like a skillful politician. So yes, they support Samsung… and yes they want to see Apple's patents challenged… but right now they're happy to let Sammy fight its own legal battles thanks very much.
From an iPhone Owner
It is a BS comparison. To use your comparison, it is to say that Apple has a patent on any screen you use your finger to operate, ridiculous. Google saw what consumers wanted and the responded, it is as simple as that. My first Android, had free turn by turn navigation, the pull down notifications, speech to text, etc. What about Apple seeing that as something consumers wanted and incorporating into iOS. Apple should count themselves lucky Google doesn't sue them for that, or thier new maps program which I am sure is completely different from Google Maps. It isn't that I don't love my iPhone I do, i just think the verdict was acvictory against innovation rather than for it.
It is a BS comparison. To use your comparison, it is to say that Apple has a patent on any screen you use your finger to operate, ridiculous. Google saw what consumers wanted and the responded, it is as simple as that. My first Android, had free turn by turn navigation, the pull down notifications, speech to text, etc. What about Apple seeing that as something consumers wanted and incorporating into iOS. Apple should count themselves lucky Google doesn't sue them for that, or thier new maps program which I am sure is completely different from Google Maps. It isn't that I don't love my iPhone I do, i just think the verdict was acvictory against innovation rather than for it.
Well, WP7/8 is having an issue with market share, but they could use this as an oppurtunity to gain some.
True. That has never been Google's on the record official position. So I agree - it's not a backpedal in it's true form. More of a "pase" statement a la bull fighting.
At least we agree that Google is smart. I won't be surprised if they tighten-up their vendor/hardware manufacturers agreements so they aren't in this pickle by-proxy in the future.