Google Makes Fun of Apple Intelligence Siri Delay in Ad Promoting Pixel 10

[DMG35]

This AI thing, what are you using Gemini to achieve, that the OS doesn’t do natively?

There are AI features on iPhone such as Maui sort and rewriting but I don’t find them to be relevant to my needs. Occasionally I use ChatGPT, once every 14 days maybe, to answer a question or provide a framework.
Xcode has ChatGPT in for coding help which is very useful for work.

If you have to ask the question then AI isn't something that most likely moves the needle for you. For a lot of us, we see AI as the future and I personally am continually amazed daily by the things that it can do and how incredibly useful it is in all aspects of my daily life.

 

[ThailandToo]

Nah. They just said the 16s would cope with AI. They did not say what AI would do...

I disagree. The commercials showed AI working to get things like someone’s name you met two weeks ago. Know your whole system. They lied. They didn’t have any of it even close to ready.

 

[ForkHandles]

If you have to ask the question then AI isn't something that most likely moves the needle for you. For a lot of us, we see AI as the future and I personally am continually amazed daily by the things that it can do and how incredibly useful it is in all aspects of my daily life.

And I guess this is the crux. I understand the hype, the excitement, the thrill of the new. I get the productivity savings in the workspace.

I don’t get the “all aspects of my daily life” scenario!

What exactly changed in your daily life as a result of machine learning in the last year?

 

[freezelighter]

Everything after Steve was just bad.

Switched to Galaxy Z Fold 7.

Enough.

 

[DMG35]

And I guess this is the crux. I understand the hype, the excitement, the thrill of the new. I get the productivity savings in the workspace.

I don’t get the “all aspects of my daily life” scenario!

What exactly changed in your daily life as a result of machine learning in the last year?

I have ChatGPat analyze my emails that I send and add to or remove to make them more professional or have a specific tone, put presentations together for me based on tbe data I feed it, give me extremely detailed competitor insight, help budget my trips, analyze my diet and give food options and alternatives, put together extremely difficult workout routines for me based on my goals, break down complex medical studies nto information that is easily digestible and sharable, help put outfits together (you think I'm nuts here but it's fantastic at telling you what shoes to wear with a specific outfit or what to wear to a specific type of event), and that's just a few things it can do.

 

[ForkHandles]

I have ChatGPat analyze my emails that I send and add to or remove to make them more professional or have a specific tone, put presentations together for me based on tbe data I feed it, give me extremely detailed competitor insight, help budget my trips, analyze my diet and give food options and alternatives, put together extremely difficult workout routines for me based on my goals, break down complex medical studies nto information that is easily digestible and sharable, help put outfits together (you think I'm nuts here but it's fantastic at telling you what shoes to wear with a specific outfit or what to wear to a specific type of event), and that's just a few things it can do.

I guess this is an age thing then.

In my fifties it so happens that I’ve worked out the answers to most of those situations already.

Which shoes to wear with these trousers? The comfy ones. Hee Hee 😂😆🤣

What to eat? Carbs and protein, you’ve got a long run in the morning.

Even with rewriting, I prefer to do it myself to stay skilled, this is a huge time pressure relief though obvs.

Thanks for the list.

 

[baconcat_8964]

Welp, Google ain't wrong on this. Apple Intelligence is a mess indeed.

Also, this is how Google marketing team works all the time. After iOS adopted RCS, they have not find a new attacking aspect for so long.

 

[DMG35]

I guess this is an age thing then.

In my fifties it so happens that I’ve worked out the answers to most of those situations already.

Which shoes to wear with these trousers? The comfy ones. Hee Hee 😂😆🤣

What to eat? Carbs and protein, you’ve got a long run in the morning.

Even with rewriting, I prefer to do it myself to stay skilled, this is a huge time pressure relief though obvs.

Thanks for the list.

Haha all fair points.

 

[maflynn]

Welp, Google ain't wrong on this. Apple Intelligence is a mess indeed.

Yep, its well deserved. Apple needs to stop promising something in the future and deliver a product. I mean they're so secretive in the first place, why per-announce anything. Just roll it out when its ready.

 

[2128506]

Google, the behemoth company, just doesn't understand how tiny startups like Apple work. Apple is constantly pushing the bleeding edge, skating to where the puck will be, not where the puck is. So, while Google is working on THIS version of AI, Apple is leading the way on the NEXT version of AI. In doing so, Apple seeks not to be the first, but to be the best. And, as Tim assured us last week, Apple is hard at work on the ALL NEW conversational Siri, a true game changer for the best-in-class iPhone assistant. Stay tuned!

I NEED TO BUY IPHONE 17 NOW!

Oh, the waiting...

 

[FunnyZa]

I mena they not wrong, They should've gotten ahead of it before WWDC like they did years ago with the Maps issue, but also that's like the pot calling the kettle black considering how much stuff Google has killed or even just looking at their region support, if Apple was to be super petty, would be easy to go tit for tat.

 

[NightFox]

Exactly what I wrote. It’s not difficult to understand.

Humour me. You said it "says a lot really", but what does it say that was different to Apple poking fun at MS?

 

[throAU]

Sure, but then I'd have a crappy android phone wouldn't I?

 

[FunnyZa]

Sure, but then I'd have a crappy android phone wouldn't I?

As iPhone users, you need to accept that they should've spun the narrative in their favor by Dec/Jan of last year already, then this would've been such a weak attempt from Google

 

[05_pinto.heated]

Everything after Steve was just bad.

Switched to Galaxy Z Fold 7.

Enough.

You're holding it wrong...

 

[HazeAndHahmahneez]

Apple might be late to certain features but EVERYONE else is somewhat copying Apple's designs.
Samsung made fun of the iPhone without the obsolete headphone jack and later on they did it too.
Every smart watch knock-off is square, not round like Samsung's.
I agree with the fact that Apple needs to innovate more but they managed to do something no-one else could:
They turned the iPhone into a status symbol and nobody else can compete with that.
Ipad outsell tablets, Apple Watch outsells samsung's and Chinese smartwatches, AirPods outsell Premium brands like Sony, Bose, etc....
People want Apple products and will pay more money or put up with shortcomings but nobody can touch the status this products give you.

Yup. I’m definitely not into status symbols at all, but mos def. This post is great. All of it….

iPhone is so great that it’s the inverse as well…if you DONT have iPhone it’s like…what’s wrong with you..and for good reason.

Google is just so self-conscious and jealous about not being #1 in their homeland…the coolest country in the world and iPhone is the (vast?) majority. So great.

Foreigners aside, my guess is that in the big and cool cities, boston, LA, NYC, I bet iPhone absolutely dominates …more so than the ratio in the rest of the country. Just a guess.

 

[AndreyOrekhov]

Luckily, as more and more things go web-app/PWA/just plan web-friendly, it's becoming less and less of an issue. Just Google Docs/Sheets on the web (and the first party apps of these are actually great on the device), Slack, and VibeTunnel, Jira, and a few others things and I can get away with just the Fold 7 for most things I need to do (mostly management, business line stuff, some light PR review, maybe occasionally some prototype dev to show a concept to the team developing something). Means I can travel nearly indefinitely with just the Fold 7, a fold up keyboard (love the ProtoArc TP), and maybe a powerbank/very small solar panel (depending on season/where I'm going). Hell, the Starlink Mini is now the biggest thing in my kit.

Thank you for your input. I am in the same boat. Business, travel, online 24/7, dependent on Microsoft ecosystem. I use iPhone, but Samsung is MUCH more friendly to Microsoft. So I’m switching to Fold7 soon. But it’s expensive like hell…

 

[bmustaf]

Thank you for your input. I am in the same boat. Business, travel, online 24/7, dependent on Microsoft ecosystem. I use iPhone, but Samsung is MUCH more friendly to Microsoft. So I’m switching to Fold7 soon. But it’s expensive like hell…

It definitely is not cheap, but being able to travel (for work or leisure) without a backpack is a liberator and major quality of life improvement for me & my wife and in that context, it's actually a screaming deal.

For example, I think about all the trips, outings, etc I've had to pass on b/c I had to work on something that required a laptop or I simply _may_ have to (and despite what Apple has claimed for years, an iPad is *not* a computer, and iPad OS 26 is coming closer, tho) and lugging a computer (or even an iPad Pro) around just was not an option.

Another is that the laptop/iPad backpack/sling is one of the "obvious knowledge worker/business person/tourist" tells, having one less of them (and $3k less of stuff I'm leaving in a hotel/rental/rental car/luggage check) is, for our lifestyle, pretty worth the price (obvs the Starlink Mini is big, but that only makes an appearance in very rural/remote situations, where not sticking out is less of an issue/looks different).

We are headed for a couple of weeks for running & climbing in the Atacama desert in a couple months, and I think a couple Fold 7s, iPhone 17 PMs (by then), and Starlink Minis will be the only kit. If I _really_ need to do something, I can just SSH/VNC into any number of boxes in my home or work labs, and using an MBA/MBP (or even an iPad) becomes ridiculous overkill at that point. It'll be a nice experiment.

 

[MacMan988]

Google is the last company I would trust with AI.

Apple's business strategy is to monger fear and convince people to settle for less

 

[tbayrgs]

CEOs of trillion dollar companies need to be CEOs, not "product guys."

Of course, but a CEO of a product focused company would benefit from some background focused on what they actually make. And Apple's focus had felt less towards the physical products that made the company what they are today and more towards how they can squeeze more money out of their existing customers with services and fees for quite a while now.

Apple's customers historically have loved Apple because of the terrific products they make, not iCloud, Apple Arcade, or AppleCare+. And guess what part of the company is the only part showing significant financial growth in the past 5 years?

Internally, Apple touts having this 'North Star' that guides them and how they do business. Sure feels like they've lost track of that.

 

[tbayrgs]

With a market share of less than 5% they should shut up...
Nobody cares for the Pixel. No matter the AI or the camera or anything...

What does market share have to do with anything? You have to be above some arbitrary number for your opinion to matter? By your math, Apple better keep their mouths shut in regards to anything pertaining to computers.

Desktop Operating System Market Share Worldwide​

Sure, the number of Pixel users is a drop in the bucket compared to iPhones but you know what is used by FAR more people than the number of iPhone owners? Google search. You know roughly how many Gmail users there are? Approximately 2-2.5 billion, depending on the source. Google has far more eyeballs on their products than Apple does so, yeah, their take may carry some weight.

 

[Princejb134]

Bought a Pixel phone and have yet to use AI in any meaningful way.

Because AI is a gimmick in my opinion. It’s still in its early stages and will gradually improve. I only use AI to proof read my emails before i send it out.

 

[bmustaf]

Sure, but then I'd have a crappy android phone wouldn't I?

They're pretty damn competitive now. I have been carrying both b/c Siri has always just been terrible, and Gemini has gotten *really* good in the last year and naturally found myself wanting to get more of the Gemini experience I was getting on the webapp on mobile, and my carrier basically gave me a Pixel 9 Pro XL (my daily use phone is an iPhone 16 PM).

The Pixel grew on me. I never used it for anything but Gemini (this was before the iOS app caught up on features for the most part), but still, b/c of the AAPL walled garden, Gemini on Pixel is still years ahead of Siri.

But the Fold 7 I just bought and replaced the Pixel 9 Pro XL with. Maaaaan, that's a damn good phone. Seriously good.

I think your one liner kinda highlights the complacency that comes with living inside a walled garden...if you don't regularly look over/outside the walls, you just assume there is no world out there worth being in. Android has TONS of problems (so does iOS), but they are *very* good examples of Android devices out there, and the Pixels are *exactly* marketed to the mission that got me to see what life outside the walled garden is like: cheap enough a carrier can entice me with one, and they got me to drop over $2k on a real Android device 4-5 mos later.

My iPhone 16 PM is still my main device and the Fold 7 is more of a "carry this instead of my laptop" thing (yeah, it is *that* good), but IDK, if Apple can't keep the pace of innovation up, post measurable improvements in adoption of new, meaningful (just not gimmick) AI that we are seeing from GOOG, it may become the daily driver.

 

[bmustaf]

Because AI is a gimmick in my opinion. It’s still in its early stages and will gradually improve. I only use AI to proof read my emails before i send it out.

Have you tried things like Google's "circle to search/dive in more", Gemini Live, etc features on Android? They are seriously good and non-gimmicky. Of course, within the AAPL walled garden, we don't get these goodies and are almost told they are forbidden fruit until they come straight from the Gods at 1 Infinite Loop (and they will tell us they invented them and they will change our lives then in a very shiny awe-inspiring keynote).

I love Apple, but this thing is turning into a really crazy cult even more than it's always been.

 

[bmustaf]

This AI thing, what are you using Gemini to achieve, that the OS doesn’t do natively?

There are AI features on iPhone such as Maui sort and rewriting but I don’t find them to be relevant to my needs. Occasionally I use ChatGPT, once every 14 days maybe, to answer a question or provide a framework.
Xcode has ChatGPT in for coding help which is very useful for work.

Oh man, there is _so_ much. It is only a small exaggeration to say this is like trying to answer "so, what's out there?" to someone who hasn't left a 100 mile radius of where they were born.

To be clear: nothing wrong with that, and I don't mean that as shade. Plenty of people live fulfilling, wonderful lives that way and more power to them. But there is *so much* beyond ChatGPT every two weeks on iOS and their Xcode integration.

Just look at some of the workflows people have with Claude Desktop + MCP, Claude Code, etc. It's insane. And you can do that stuff on an Android device. iOS? Man, I'm pretty sure you're not even allowed to think about it.