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EggMaps : uses Google Maps for iOS6

While we wait for Google to finish it, EggMaps is currently awaiting app store approval. A fast, native app that uses Google's maps, and works on iOS6. See http://www.eggmaps.com/ .
 
Particularly Asian hardware manufacturers, who use free Google software paired with generic hardware to compete with American companies.

Thanks Google!

So it's OK for Apple to outsource and support foreign trade markets but not Google. Yeah. Ok.

Apple barely even banks in the US ;)
 
I really don't understand why Apple Maps got such a bad rep upon its introduction. Apple Maps has been flawless in my area and has many new listing that even Google Maps database didn't have. Besides for the comical 3D renderings of popular areas like Statue of Liberty and the Brooklyn Bridge looking like a garbage dump, that was the only thing I found to be buggy...

Additionally, I'm glad Apple ditched Google. They were giving away TONS of valuable user information. Why people would go back to Google if they do come out with a maps application is beyond me. They were the very ones who were holding back turn by turn navigation from you every past iOS revision so that Android would have at least one comparative advantage over Apple...
 
have a question for the group. if google creates a kick a** IOS 6 maps app what will have been the harm in all this? a few months lag on 'acceptable' maps for some (obviously not all)? google was not providing what was available on a rival system (that being android). apple (like most every business there is) is in direct competition with said system (Android). apple dumps google maps because internally they have determined they might be losing a possible customer base because of turn by turn (do you all have any idea how important turn by turn and the lack of it is?----hint, its huge). now, a few months later the apple customer base gets turn by turn (either from the apple maps or a vastly improved google maps. how is it that some here seem intent on 'winning some game'? or defending their 'team' at any and all costs?

the ones i truly feel a bit sorry for are the folks in countries outside the US, who definately appear to be struggling with new maps app. but in the end it atleast appears that help is on the way; help i would argue, that wouldn't have been there had apple stood pat and just renewed with google for another year. as a company, you have to jump the shark sometime, might as well be now when millions are lining up to buy your phone anyway.

i'm no apple fanboy, but i have to say i really admire the way they operate.
 
You may not see ads per say right in maps, but your location is being logged and used to feed you location relevant ads elsewhere. This is Google's revenue model. They want to learn as much as they can about everyone that they can so they can offer strong targeted advertising and charge higher advertising rates to their REAL customers. YOU are not Google's customers. The advertiser's are. You are food for their real customers.

I agree with you that this should not be.

But doesn't Apple do the same ?
Are they not tracing and recording everything they can from us ?
Don't you remember the GPS-tracing-gate ?
They now have iCloud to access all your adress book, calendars and data (if they hadn't all of that before).
They even record our voices for unknown purposes, and store them at will (that's what Siri is for).
Don't you think you are as much food for Apple and Apple customers ?

Apple or Google, why should I care ? Which is worse, who can tell ?
 
I agree with you that this should not be.

But doesn't Apple do the same ?
Are they not tracing and recording everything they can from us ?
Don't you remember the GPS-tracing-gate ?
They now have iCloud to access all your adress book, calendars and data (if they hadn't all of that before).
They even record our voices for unknown purposes, and store them at will (that's what Siri is for).
Don't you think you are as much food for Apple and Apple customers ?

Apple or Google, why should I care ? Which is worse, who can tell ?

Apple doesn't make any significant revenue from advertising (otherwise they would be telling iAd success stories). Google does. As such, it makes sense for Google to store and analyze extensive user data. What's your reasoning in thinking Apple does the same?

The GPS-tracing-gate was about cached WiFi and cell tower data being submitted for the crowd-sourced location database (think Skyhook).

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2011/04/27Apple-Q-A-on-Location-Data.html

Regarding storing the voice recordings from Siri, where do you think Apple is hiding those data centers?

If you equate tracking user information with being "worse", Google is "worse". Their entire business is based around this. For the record, I don't think this makes Google "worse", it just means they have a different business model.

Update: Good catch by AidenShaw below.
 
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I agree with you that this should not be.

But doesn't Apple do the same ?
Are they not tracing and recording everything they can from us ?
Don't you remember the GPS-tracing-gate ?
They now have iCloud to access all your adress book, calendars and data (if they hadn't all of that before).
They even record our voices for unknown purposes, and store them at will (that's what Siri is for).
Don't you think you are as much food for Apple and Apple customers ?

Apple or Google, why should I care ? Which is worse, who can tell ?

Funny that you mention that....

http://www.businessinsider.com/ifa-apples-iphone-tracking-in-ios-6-2012-10

Apple's launch of the iPhone 5 in September came with a bunch of new commercials to promote the device.

But Apple didn't shout quite so loud about an enhancement to its new mobile operating system, iOS 6, which also occurred in September: The company has started tracking users so that advertisers can target them again, through a new tracking technology called IFA or IDFA

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/ifa-apples-iphone-tracking-in-ios-6-2012-10#ixzz29PbHuY7k

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4228?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US

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Sheesh! Are you sure you threw enough Hyperbole in there? Fiasco, Downward Spiral, Hugely Degraded Experience, one of a million problems, Calling it a fail is too generous, yada, yada

Sure, maps has some serious issues that need to be resolved, but most people are using them with no trouble at all. Apple is not doomed. These issues will be fixed and they will continue to be the most valuable tech company, thank you very much. A couple of months from now, this will all blow over just like the overblown and over hyped "antennae gate" nonsense.

Your comment on my posting made me go back and look at it again, and I do have to agree that it had too much hyperbole. However, I stand by my comment that Apple had an obligation to its users to offer access to the previous Google maps to avoid degrading their experience, and that it is something that would not have happened in the Apple of Steve Jobs. Its a huge issue with the current way technology is delivered from the Cloud, in which you can just wake up one day and find that previous services have vanished due to some business objective.

Remember that once you upgrade to iOS6, Apple does not allow you revert to earlier iOS versions (something that it would be easy for them to allow). Are you saying that its OK to, say, remove all transit directions that people previously used in their daily routine just because it fits Apple's latest fight with Google? I also don't buy your comment that this will blow over in a couple of months, as we are talking about real services that are difficult to provide, not some perception.

Anyone in an urban setting now realizes that an Android phone has some significant advantages. Apple could have easily avoided this by providing ongoing access to their previous Maps app. Wouldn't you agree that this is a new face of Apple?
 
I don't think the person you're replying to was saying one was worse. His point was that both companies do it. Others seem to think Google is evil and Apple doesn't mine data at all. That would be false.

Further - just because Apple doesn't make any significant revenue doesn't mean they weren't/aren't trying. Don't you think Apple would love for iAds to be THE place to place your ad and for them to make millions off of it? It seems some want to penalize Google for being very successful at selling ads. Trust me - if Apple were kicking but and taking names - as they had hoped - people would still have the same assumption that Google was the evil one and Apple wasn't doing anything with their data.

You (and he nailed it) with the simply point. Different business models. That's all.

Apple doesn't make any significant revenue from advertising (otherwise they would be telling iAd success stories). Google does. As such, it makes sense for Google to store and analyze extensive user data. What's your reasoning in thinking Apple does the same?

The GPS-tracing-gate was about cached WiFi and cell tower data being submitted for the crowd-sourced location database (think Skyhook).

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2011/04/27Apple-Q-A-on-Location-Data.html

Regarding storing the voice recordings from Siri, where do you think Apple is hiding those data centers?

If you equate tracking user information with being "worse", Google is "worse". Their entire business is based around this. For the record, I don't think this makes Google "worse", it just means they have a different business model.

Update: Good catch by AidenShaw below.
 
Again, examples?
Examples? Look at the attached picture.

Shinjuku Station -used by an average of 3.7 million people per day- and its surroundings, in Google Maps (left) and Apple Maps (right).
In Apple Maps, the train station -the world's busiest transport hub according to Guinness World Records- is interestingly symbolized with a "car" icon; the station and its 200+ exits aren't even on the map, and this without even mentioning the general lack of accuracy and amount of information when compared to Google Maps.

Or you could also have a took at the recent posting history of posters living in Japan?
Or have a quick look a couple (among the hundreds) of articles that sum up the situation?

http://www.japanmobiletech.com/2012/09/ios-6-maps-fail-in-japan.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/25/technology/apple-maps-errors-send-japanese-to-homegrown-app.html?_r=1
http://www.itmedia.co.jp/news/articles/1209/20/news034.html
 

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Charge $.99 for it and they'll make some serious money.

that was my first thought when apple removed gmap, after wile, im curious how much money they make from each average user, cos if they charge they should't take (show or collect) from/to users

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Examples? Look at the attached picture.

Shinjuku Station -used by an average of 3.7 million people per day- and its surroundings, in Google Maps (left) and Apple Maps (right).
In Apple Maps, the train station -the world's busiest transport hub according to Guinness World Records- is interestingly symbolized with a "car" icon; the station and its 200+ exits aren't even on the map, and this without even mentioning the general lack of accuracy and amount of information when compared to Google Maps.

Or you could also have a took at the recent posting history of posters living in Japan?
Or have a quick look a couple (among the hundreds) of articles that sum up the situation?

http://www.japanmobiletech.com/2012/09/ios-6-maps-fail-in-japan.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/25/technology/apple-maps-errors-send-japanese-to-homegrown-app.html?_r=1
http://www.itmedia.co.jp/news/articles/1209/20/news034.html
when I checked my parents house, there is a tree which is gone about 5-6 years ago, google doesn't have that tree, it's amazing. iMaps like government archive
 
In Apple Maps, the train station -the world's busiest transport hub according to Guinness World Records- is interestingly symbolized with a "car" icon;

I guess, the symbol is a way to identify one of the 24 data sources. Car symbol is for TomTom.
 
A heartbeat download for me.

What I used a lot in Google maps was this process 1.) spotting a destination in Manhattan, 2.) seeing what the closest subway stop was to that destination; 3.) contrasted with what stop was closest to where I was standing, then 4.) figuring out what subway line would get me there; if not direct, then with the least amount of transfers. All that was gone with Apple's map. It had no subway stops no matter how closely you zoomed in.

Yes apple maps next to useless for public transpo in nyc
 
Examples? Look at the attached picture.

Shinjuku Station -used by an average of 3.7 million people per day- and its surroundings, in Google Maps (left) and Apple Maps (right).
In Apple Maps, the train station -the world's busiest transport hub according to Guinness World Records- is interestingly symbolized with a "car" icon; the station and its 200+ exits aren't even on the map, and this without even mentioning the general lack of accuracy and amount of information when compared to Google Maps.

Or you could also have a took at the recent posting history of posters living in Japan?
Or have a quick look a couple (among the hundreds) of articles that sum up the situation?

http://www.japanmobiletech.com/2012/09/ios-6-maps-fail-in-japan.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/25/technology/apple-maps-errors-send-japanese-to-homegrown-app.html?_r=1
http://www.itmedia.co.jp/news/articles/1209/20/news034.html

They're definitely working on it. I have never viewed the area before, so my phone isn't relying on cached data, and I'm seeing rail lines running from the station.

Edit: I need to be zoomed in closer than you were to see them. It seems to match what is on Google Maps though.
 
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