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So by Google's rationale they stole or copied the following from Apple:
  • messaging
  • mobile web browser
  • photos
  • music
  • calculator app
  • original camera module
  • The entire original form factor of the iPhone
  • App Store
  • capacitive touch screen interface (though Apple stole this from LG 😊 )
The list goes on and on. I mean you can say that Google has better versions of these features above, but they definitely were influenced and copied from Apple.

Google really doesn't want to go down this rabbit hole much further.
 
So you wanna tell me liquid glass is a perfect implementation
I did not explicitly say that. In fact, I am staying on iOS 18.7 on my iPhone 11 Pro Max.

As much as I like the upgrades brought to the iPhone 17, iOS 26.x is what's stopping me from purchasing one. If I were to purchase another iPhone, I would first check that it is still running iOS 18.x or anything older before purchasing it.
 
Your experience is very common and the kind that drives markets and marketing. Spec heads are so interested in pushing the tech envelope that they forget consumer devices are bought by consumers.

Consumers don’t realize that the features they like and use are the direct result of advances in processor power.

Or the fact their 5 year old iPhone still runs great on the latest iOS version because Apple didn’t put a sub-par processor in when it was new.
 
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Then you should get an Android phone (Non - Pixel)

Snapdragon 8 elite gen 5 wipes the floor with the A19 Pro

Except it doesn’t.

Still slower in single core and only slightly faster in multicore.

Considering the higher clock speeds and extra cores (compared to the A19) the Elite Gen 5 is rather pathetic. It’s like Intel all over again—more cores/GHz will fix things.

Looking at the 3 phones currently shipping with the Elite Gen 5 it excels at one thing: a hand warmer in freezing temperatures.
 
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Except it doesn’t.

Still slower in single core and only slightly faster in multicore.

Considering the higher clock speeds and extra cores (compared to the A19) the Elite Gen 5 is rather pathetic. It’s like Intel all over again—more cores/GHz will fix things.

Looking at the 3 phones currently shipping with the Elite Gen 5 it excels at one thing: a hand warmer in freezing temperatures.
lol check the benchmarks for yourself

"slower in single core"
A19 is 2% better on geekbench, that is the same

"slightly faster in multicore"
Snapdragon is 24% better, that is not slight, that's a huge difference

The vaunted apple silicon has been surpassed by Qualcomm. Accept it and move on.

 
I can't tell a speed difference between my SE 2022 and 16 Pro, at all. Considering I play zero games, and do zero photo/video editing, how would I even tell? When it comes to CPU speed, I just don't care, and benchmarks do nothing for me. Same thing coming from an M1 Air to M4 Pro; they feel the same.

What I can tell, though, is how much liquid glass sucks.

You’re comparing phones that are 2 years apart?

Maybe if you said i don’t notice the difference between my iPhone 10 and 17 Pro I’d be impressed.
 
lol check the benchmarks for yourself

"slower in single core"
A19 is 2% better on geekbench, that is the same

"slightly faster in multicore"
Snapdragon is 24% better, that is not slight, that's a huge difference

The vaunted apple silicon has been surpassed by Qualcomm. Accept it and move on.


But what about his comments around throwing more ghz and cores at the challenge of matching performance. Any truth to this?
 
The Pixel being green made me laugh as it reminded me of the green bubbles in the iPhone iMessaging app. Of course that had to be the wicked one… 😂
 
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Where have you seen that on Macrumors? I have never seen any article, on any website, saying that a single IOS update fixes 50 plus security issues. That is wild.

Then two weeks later:


That was a very bad time.
 
A polished turd is still a turd. iOS 26 is hot garbage.

Happily staying on iOS 18 as long as possible!
it's a lot better with motion off and transparency turned way down. Still issues with extra clicks for things like tabs in Safari. Those are definitely worse.

FWIW I disliked the animations on iOS 18 already, so iOS 26 certainly didn't improve the situation. There's a few other quirks if you know about them. This one should work on any iPhone with any reasonably current iOS version:
  1. lay phone down
  2. open timer
  3. set timer for same time as screen autolock (mine's 2 min, but 30s works faster)
  4. Tap the Start button and don't touch phone.
  5. Watch the lock screen lock and the timer not go off. (I have 1 report of a 13 mini having the timer go off and the lock screen fail to lock)
Pretty annoying if you commonly use a timer for the same amount of time as your lock screen.
 
This was simply a cute video with singing phones. Sometimes that’s all people want. Two devices becoming friends despite their vast differences. ❤️
 
Yeah, fair point—Apple's hardware innovation has definitely slowed under Tim Cook (more iterative upgrades, catching up on AI/photo features Pixel pioneered years ago). But iOS is still the smoothest, most polished, privacy-focused OS out there. Android feels fragmented and buggy by comparison, even on Pixel. Cook seemed to have perfected the ecosystem; he just stopped revolutionizing the phone itself. 😅
A lot of the Pixel photo features came from other pieces of software. But frankly it does not matter what they put in their phones. I prefer iOS.
 
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Funny, I daily drive a Pixel because it feels lightyears more secure due to the constant updates pushed out to parts of the OS instead of waiting for an every-other-month update as a package of fixes. Looking at my Play Store history, I got an update to Photos, Drive, Messages, Wi-Fi provisioning, Wallet, Phone, Calendar, Contacts, Device Intelligence, Calculator, Files, and more in the last 3 days. Meanwhile, Apple last updated my iPad on Nov 3 and no patches since. Those long gaps mean there are security issues and Apple is just too big to still think they have security through obscurity. Things get exploited fast when issues are addressed so slowly.
This statement seems false. Those long gaps mean there are security issues. Apple does and will push emergency security updates if needed. Claiming Android is more secure by pushing more updates is a bit of a stretch. But Google can be considered the biggest threat to privacy of all. Ads and data is its business. You pay money for a Google/Android product and good money. But you are still the product.
 
capacitive touch screen interface (though Apple stole this from LG 😊

Not quite. The LG Prada hit the market a few months before the iPhone, but it did not feature multitouch gestures like the iPhone. You can say Apple stole it from LG, but that ignores the fact that Apple had the iPhone in development contemporaneously with the LG Prada. That Apple was working with such technology was known by industry insiders. Certainly LG knew. Not to mention that anyone could have guessed from Apple's purchase of FingerWorks (a multi-touch gesture recognition company) a couple of years earlier. Anyone who was around and working with tablet technologies in the 00's (I was working on a tablet-based medical-information system at the time), knows that these ideas were in the works "somewhere", even if they didn't know it was at Apple. And, finally, not to mention the fact that the technology was first developed in the 1960s in the UK.
 
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Yes, it looks like Apple Silicon finally has some competition. How many years did it take Qualcomm — or any other mobile chip maker for that matter — to catch up to Apple Silicon?
 
Except it doesn’t.

Still slower in single core and only slightly faster in multicore.

Considering the higher clock speeds and extra cores (compared to the A19) the Elite Gen 5 is rather pathetic. It’s like Intel all over again—more cores/GHz will fix things.

Looking at the 3 phones currently shipping with the Elite Gen 5 it excels at one thing: a hand warmer in freezing temperatures.
So, the processors with higher clock speeds and extra cores are pathetic? Interesting take.
 
lol check the benchmarks for yourself

"slower in single core"
A19 is 2% better on geekbench, that is the same

"slightly faster in multicore"
Snapdragon is 24% better, that is not slight, that's a huge difference

The vaunted apple silicon has been surpassed by Qualcomm. Accept it and move on.


Hilarious. You pick numbers from the Qualcomm reference device (which ALWAYS turns in higher numbers than actual devices).

Here’s Gary Explains from Android Authority (in case you want to claim bias) testing devices. In short the 8 Elite Gen 5 is, as I already stated, pathetic.

It can turn in higher numbers, but generates so much heat that it throttles. So you can get higher performance only if you run a shorter test where the processor doesn’t heat up.

Look at the stress tests. Elite Gen 5 is all over the place but ends up turning in lower sustained numbers than the A19 Pro. The Dimensity 9500 also jumps around but does better than Qualcomm.

You’re also leaving out several important facts.

The Elite G5 is clocked higher. The prime cores are at 4.6GHz vs 4.26GHz for the A19. That’s 8% higher clock yet it still scores slower in single core. Your 2% claim is asinine. It’s over 10%.

But the real kicker which shows how bad the Elite G5 is? The Elite G5 has 6 performance cores clocked at 3.6GHz compared to 4 efficiency cores in the A19 clocked at 2.6GHz. That’s a whopping 38% higher clock speed and it has 2 extra cores to get slightly faster multicore results than Apple. Again, pathetic.

We haven’t see Geekbench numbers or numbers from the released phones that are getting”software updates” to deal with the excessive heat (Realme GT8 Pro and RedMagic 11 Pro both overheat and the OnePlus 15 couldn’t even finish the WildLife test without shutting down). So final numbers will get even lower.

Finally there’s the cheating issue. Every single Android manufacturer has been caught cheating on benchmarks (with the exception of Motorola). They all ramp up clock speeds or ignore thermal temps to get a good score when they detect a benchmark running. Apple has NEVER been caught cheating in benchmarks. Which is funny when people say benchmarks don’t matter yet Android OEMs cheat in order to produce higher numbers.

Bottom line, when we have aggregated numbers from devices tested with final firmware it’s going to show the Elite 8 Gen 5 as nothing special except maybe use as a hand warmer.
 

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Here’s another video from Android Authority talking about the heat issue and how Android OEMs “tweak” their software to manage thermals (which results in reduced performance).

 
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