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If Apple invented it, no one else should be able to use it. Neg'd it.

I want to see Apple invent and the PREVENT others from using the tech.
 
Google is becoming a lawless company

It stole the Chinese dictionary database form a Chinese company and was caught. Then it copied many Chinese books without getting permissions. Then it wants to disobey Chinese laws operating in China. Then it ignores Apple patent on multi-touch. And most of the Android OS is just copycats of iPhone OS.
 
Dude are you 12? My 2006 Nokia N95 could multitask and had a 5mp camera, send FULL SIZE mms, cut and paste etc.... lol and you standing the iphone up on some pedistal?? It didnt get that stuff until what some it still doesnt have and the other MAY come this year...

Ohhhh excuse me, I didn't know Nokia had a full multi touch phone ALL THESE YEARS with ambient light sensors and accelerometers. I must have forgot that how inane of me :rolleyes:
 
In attacking the standard, Google Android solidifies its place as "competitor to iPhone OS." Google will never beat Apple if they're nipping at the iPhone's heels.

Remember when the iPhone came out? Everyone kept asking: "Well it doesn't have any of the features of the Nokia N95: blah blah blah." Apple subsequently spent time trying to make sure that the user experience of each feature sufficiently trumped what the market had to offer, and it didn't matter how much the users protested. (Remember, most of us didn't even use copy & paste on our phones—it involved too many bloody menus.)

The problem for Google will be: how do you drastically improve the experience and trump the iPhone? For Apple it was easy: all of the cell phone manufacturers were slackers selling the same old product year after year. They weren't much competition for Apple. For Google, it may be a little more difficult.

We'll see what happens.
 
Phone editing is just a simple scrub and shuffle, nobody is trying to do FCP or FCE on a iPhone..... Apple has achieved the simplicity of what video editing is on a smartphone device....

Nokia N97??? was that their revenue this year??? $97 lol;)

ohhh yeah N stands for Neglected...Nokia Neglected their devices since 97

Nokia increased its Smartphone market share in the last quarter, 5% and made a very healthy profit.. what did Apple do? Ah..iPhone marketshare *decreased*.

Ohhhh excuse me, I didn't know Nokia had a full multi touch phone ALL THESE YEARS with ambient light sensors and accelerometers. I must have forgot that how inane of me :rolleyes:

Nokia has has accelerometers in its phones for quite a while, N95 was the first phone, *before* the iPhone came out!

Nokia E70 had ambient light sensors, again, before iPhone was released.

Multi-touch enabled phone does not make it automatically great...
 
Doesn't apple have a patent on multitouch?

No. Multitouch has been around since at least the early 1980s.

NOW, if Apple would have added pinch-to-zoom to the iPhone and a Google phone had it in 2007, then all hell would have broke loose. Apple would have been bashed for being "late to the party," etc.

There was a Linux based smartphone with pinch-zoom (and icon grid with dock - who copied whom?) that was shown off months before the iPhone was revealed.

Here is a link to a video of Jeff Han doing a presentation of multi-touch interface in 2006. So if someone is going to be granted a patent on multi-touch it will not be Apple.

Han was very late to the party. A well known researcher who founded Apple's Human Interface Group back in the 1980s, later created a touch demo film at Sun showing off pinch... in 1993.
 
Here is a link to a video of Jeff Han doing a presentation of multi-touch interface in 2006. So if someone is going to be granted a patent on multi-touch it will not be Apple.
People were doing these kinds of multipoint control gestures regularly on computing interfaces 10, maybe 15, years ago. What often happens in the world of junk patents today, is that somebody sticks "on a phone" on the patent application, and then magically it's a new invention.
 
Ohhhh excuse me, I didn't know Nokia had a full multi touch phone ALL THESE YEARS with ambient light sensors and accelerometers. I must have forgot that how inane of me :rolleyes:

lol N95 had accelometers... It was one of the first phones to get it actually and it had ambient light sensors... do you research.. along with MMS, cut and paste, 5mp camera, 30fps video and 3g... lol

But NO it didnt not have full multitouch devices before the iphone... but it did have touch devices.. N770, N800... before the iphone.
 
Yawn .........

This has been around on the iPhone since its launch.

Nobody cares about Googles old adaptation to "Pinch to Zoom" technology.... "OMGosh we can zoom now yay!! yippieeee"...NOT!!

Please. It took the iPhone years to get cut & paste, there's still no 3rd party multitasking, no way to change the default theme, and something as simple as saving an email attachment that's not a photo - nonexistent. Hell, I can do that on an old Samsung Instinct.

Pot calling the kettle black immediately comes to mind here.
 
Ohhhh excuse me, I didn't know Nokia had a full multi touch phone ALL THESE YEARS with ambient light sensors and accelerometers. I must have forgot that how inane of me :rolleyes:

Oh and Your sig is HIGHLY ironic lol
 
Apple bought placebase, wich is actually more evolved than google maps. I guess os 4.0 will have a total integration with those new maps


link to the article :

http://theappleblog.com/2009/10/01/apple-purchase-of-placebase-confirmed-goodbye-google-maps/

My thing is what else can apple do you that standpoint that google maps hasnt already done??

Google pretty much run #$it when it comes to free maps from the internet to the cell. And it definately moved the release of free navi... just look at nokia.. they did one better and offered a free OFFLINE maps navi service...
 
Nokia increased its Smartphone market share in the last quarter, 5% and made a very healthy profit.. what did Apple do? Ah..iPhone marketshare *decreased*. Apple did not loose marketshare, don't listen to the pundits.


Multi-touch enabled phone does not make it automatically great...

Actually yeah it does, users think so, Apples numbers say so ...... If that was the case then All the other copycats would be sticking with qwerty keyboards and flip phone slide out junk
 
I think I'm going to patent the use of a microphone and speaker in all mobile phones.
 
I'd like to see if Apple makes any public remark in regards to this.
Nexus users in the US are going to be really happy to finally have this feature.
 
Okay I see the list, but these are FULLY TOUCH DEVICES are they?:confused:

Hm, my Sony Ericsson P910i of 2003 could do a lot more then the first iPhone.
Use any of your songs as ringtone was obvious, a full file browse system which could be accessed by Bluetooth by a Mac or PC, and yes it was fully touch: you could get the keyboard completely off and worked with the pen only, however I simply used my fingers which worked as well.
 
Actually yeah it does, users think so, Apples numbers say so ...... If that was the case then All the other copycats would be sticking with qwerty keyboards and flip phone slide out junk

So, by your argument - "multi-touch makes a phone great":

So, the below is true:
"Take any phone, add multitouch = great product"

No, I dont think so.

However, it did work for Apple.
 
Hm, my Sony Ericsson P910i of 2003 could do a lot more then the first iPhone.
Use any of your songs as ringtone was obvious, a full file browse system which could be accessed by Bluetooth by a Mac or PC, and yes it was fully touch: you could get the keyboard completely off and worked with th epen only, however I simply used my fingers which worked as well.

P910i was a great phone! I had the P800 and that phone(p910a).. way before its time! But it was full touch also, with handwriting recognition and a qwerty keyboard...
 
Hm, my Sony Ericsson P910i of 2003 could do a lot more then the first iPhone.
Use any of your songs as ringtone was obvious, a full file browse system which could be accessed by Bluetooth by a Mac or PC, and yes it was fully touch: you could get the keyboard completely off and worked with th epen only, however I simply used my fingers which worked as well.

P9xx were great phones: Opera browser was great, ability to multi-task, great PIM functionality, good battery life. Very nice and large display for the time.

UIQ was way ahead of S60.
 
My thing is what else can apple do you that standpoint that google maps hasnt already done??

Google pretty much run #$it when it comes to free maps from the internet to the cell. And it definately moved the release of free navi... just look at nokia.. they did one better and offered a free OFFLINE maps navi service...

Offline could be an idea, but you know, so many things could be done. Geotagging with iphoto visually mapped, geotagged contact to call visually on a map, application that can integrates better on those maps... the power of apple is on the developper side meeting many paying customers, crazy eco system :)
 
But NO it didnt not have full multitouch devices before the iphone... but it did have touch devices.. N770, N800... before the iphone.

If Nokia had A FULL TOUCH DEVICE then your argument would be valid unfortunately, Nokia had zero innovation on that front... Close but no cigar



Please. It took the iPhone years to get cut & paste, there's still no 3rd party multitasking, no way to change the default theme, and something as simple as saving an email attachment that's not a photo - nonexistent. Hell, I can do that on an old Samsung Instinct.

Oh yeah I forgot you were doing that stuff on A FULL MULTI TOUCH DEVICE .... Developing for a FULL MULTI TOUCH DEVICE requires innovation beyond that of a qwerty keyboard device... BTW you can save ANY photo to an iPhone, 3rd party multitasking eats up toooooooooo much power with the current chips in the iPhone 3G/3GS. Apples chips can remedy this.
 
Hm, my Sony Ericsson P910i of 2003 could do a lot more then the first iPhone.
Use any of your songs as ringtone was obvious, a full file browse system which could be accessed by Bluetooth by a Mac or PC, and yes it was fully touch: you could get the keyboard completely off and worked with th epen only, however I simply used my fingers which worked as well.

FULL TOUCH = NO KEYBOARD OR STYLUS thus you had a NON-FULL TOUCH DEVICE
 
Offline could be an idea, but you know, so many things could be done. Geotagging with iphoto visually mapped, geotagged contact to call visually on a map, application that can integrates better on those maps... the power of apple is on the developper side meeting many paying customers, crazy eco system :)

Oh yea good ideas... iphoto already does the geotag mapping thing.. so no reason it could not be ported to the iphone...

Google local kinda of has this functionality already.... in regard to locating contacts on a map in real time etc..

But making the maps offline would be a huge deal... that would make it replace a garmin/tom tom any day!
 
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