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My wife has a Droid and now my daughter has the Verizon Galaxy-S Android phone (Fascinate I think? Not sure of the name).

While I find the Droid to be rather primitive, the Fascinate seems to offer a pretty "iPhone-ish" user experience out of the box.

Until you try to start putting your music and videos on there. My daughter has been an i-something user for years now and has purchased several hundred dollars' worth of music and videos from iTunes. Yes, we are one of those strange families who believes in paying for our music/videos. Unfortunately, she went to drop all her music onto the Fascinate only to find a) iTunes doesn't recognize the device (no surprise there) and b) DRM-protected music won't port over there. Home-ripped MP3's are fine, obviously. There are workarounds like DoubleTwist that will let her move her ripped MP3's and movies over but they are just that...workarounds from her perspective. She has to work to get around Apple's "not invented here" mentality -or- Androids "We don't do Apple" mentality. Pick whichever side you want in the argument there....the consumer loses when companies can't make their tech work together.

Since the entire family is slowly moving away from Windows anything to Mac's, this is the localized 'net effect' value of having all Apple products. Everything works together, no fuss, no issues. So the Androids in the family, while interesting diversions from a hackability perspective, really just don't "work" very well for us. Everything we do auto-magically on the iPhone requires a kludge workaround or crude substitution on the Androids.

And I think thats where I land on Android phones. Its a far more open architecture and for someone who enjoys hacking and fooling around with technology, I think its a great substitute for an iPhone and iOS. But if you just want it to "work" for you, plug and play stupid-simple, nothing beats Apple products talking to other Apple products. Throw in the curated App Store where all the popular kids (games/apps) hang out and compare it to the Android Marketplace and the differences in the overall user experience becomes even more stark....Apple just presents a cleaner, easier-to-use experience from end to end. This is what Apple is all about. They never have the best hardware, they just have the best implementation practices and this means more to Joe Q. Consumer than anything else.

YMMV of course.
 
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- Memory is the same as the iPhone-4

Yep. But easily and cheaply expandable with Micro SD cards

I guess I should have been more clear.... RAM is the same -- they both have 512MB of RAM.

I was not referring to overall capacity of the device for content storage.
 
Nexus S is very disappointing device. iPhone 4 has been released almost 6 months now and Nexus S had 6 more months to prepare, so it should have better specs. It doesn't. Actually, it has less features than other Android devices like no expandable memory. That's bad.

It only supports t-mobile 3G. Given AT&T has over 90 million subscribers and t-mobile has barely 30 million... This was a genius idea.

I don't see any of the specs are much better than Galaxy S phones, so no.. I don't want this phone. I would wait for better android phone. Same camera, same processor... but 6 months later? No thanks. Other Android phones will get 2.3 as well..
 
Nexus S is very disappointing device. iPhone 4 has been released almost 6 months now and Nexus S had 6 more months to prepare, so it should have better specs. It doesn't. Actually, it has less features than other Android devices like no expandable memory. That's bad.

It only supports t-mobile 3G. Given AT&T has over 90 million subscribers and t-mobile has barely 30 million... This was a genius idea.

I don't see any of the specs are much better than Galaxy S phones, so no.. I don't want this phone. I would wait for better android phone. Same camera, same processor... but 6 months later? No thanks. Other Android phones will get 2.3 as well..

This is more of a developer phone than a consumer phone. Yes, its only available on T-mobile, but this phone can be purchased unlocked, therefore, it will work on ANY GSM carrier. EDIT: didn't realize that this will not be supported on AT&T's 3G network. WOW FAIL!

Lets not think in terms of, lets wait for 'the iPhone4 killer.' that kind of mentality needs to die away. now.

Yes, there will be true next generation phones coming early 2011, so we'll wait for that.

For AT&T subscribers, you will get the Motorola Olympus

- 2.3 Gingerbread 4.0 inch phone

- Dual Core Processor (utilizing the new Cortex-A9 processor)

- Tegra 2 SoC chip

- Front facing camera

For Verizon subscribers, you will get the Motorola Etna, which is essentially the same as the Olympus specs wise.
 
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I'm not sure what they were thinking with this phone. The two big cons are that it doesn't support 720p video capture and doesn't have a micro-SD card slot (so you are stuck with 16GB). Also, the unlocked version is pretty unusable outside of T-Mobile (since it doesn't support AT&T's 3G network band). The only real exciting hardware addition is the NFC chip.

That's absolutely incorrect. The T-mobile Nexus S does support AT&T's 3G bands
 
It looks pretty good to me. My partner was looking at getting the Galaxy S in the next couple of weeks but the Nexus S looks like a slightly better version. We don't want the same phone and I already have an iphone so he wants something different.

If the price is similar I can't see any reason to pick the Galaxy S over this? Except of course that they haven't announced any timeline for release in Australia so we could be waiting.
 
So, after seeing that Android ninja'd several things from iOS to 2.3 (which was much needed, IMHO), I'm REALLY hoping that iOS 5 brings the same kind of quality of life changes. What do I mean by that? I mean with notifications. iOS's modal pop-ups were great when it was only text messages and maybe calendar stuff. Now, with all the apps, it's a nightmare to see what you have waiting or missed. I REALLY would like for a better notification system (and maybe some lock screen changes?!), or at least a place to look at all the recent notifications. And, I swear, if it's something like Android's drawer, I will laugh my arse off.
 
I think the Nexus-S is a very good phone. Both phones have their faults so it really depends on personal choice. And of course, if you want or can stand the AT&T network. But if you buy either phone, I think it's a win win situation. It also depends on your primary use for your phone. Like I said, I think it really comes down to personal choice and what phones suits YOU best.
 
- Camera on Nexus-S is 5MP, but no mention of backlit sensor or HDR (I'm sure you can get an HDR app for it). Camera on iPhone-4 is incredible because of the backlit sensor.

Both Apple and Samsung phones use the same sensors from Omnivision.
 
The beauty of Android is it gives the Apple worshippers a target to shoot at. Being relatively new and quite different from iOS, Android is the perfect punching bag.
 
It really is a Galaxy S phone (eg, Vibrant), but Google fixed a lot of problems it had (apparently), and then made it look nicer (I guess).

Re the dude about iTunes DRM songs: Nothing but Apple's devices support those because Apple refused to license out Fairplay. You can't really blame anyone for that except Apple lol.

I've found the media management to be a walk in the park.
 
It really is a Galaxy S phone (eg, Vibrant), but Google fixed a lot of problems it had (apparently), and then made it look nicer (I guess).

Re the dude about iTunes DRM songs: Nothing but Apple's devices support those because Apple refused to license out Fairplay. You can't really blame anyone for that except Apple lol.

I've found the media management to be a walk in the park.

Although any song you buy from iTunes now should play on any device that supports AAC.

I'm pretty sure the S stands for ****.
 
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Although any song you buy from iTunes now should play on any device that supports AAC.

Yes, any song you buy from iTunes right now will work on an Android. I have about 100 from my itunes library on my G2 and they work just fine. I don't get the complaining, if you put doubletwist on the machine you can do 1-click itunes syncing.. shoot better, you can download the $1.99 airsync app and the phone will sync with your computer whenever the two are on wifi at the same time. .....

with the itunes library :p

The only thing that sucks about Doubletwist is it doesn't follow the rules iTunes sets (eg, you can't choose to sync selected songs only). OTOH, there's a lot of ways to make that work out.
 
http://bradwallen.com/2010/12/06/google-nexus-s/

just putting this here.

Of course, this says nothing about the quality of either phone, manufacturer or OS developer, just a funny similarity. Actually, I'm happy to see that google is properly marketing / presenting its new flagship phone. The Nexus One was pretty much only marketed toward the gadget nerd
 
Here are the features Google Boosts over iPhone:


The voice actions feature,
Google Maps with Navigation,
NFC,
Portable Wi-Fi hotspot
Internet calling (VoIP/ SIP support)


Let's all not fool each other here. These are features out of the box that smash iPhone.

It appears Google is giving apple a run for their money. Let's hope Apple can keep up and match/beat the above. Becuase i'd love the Wifi and SIP stuff.

http://www.google.com/nexus/#!/features
 
Phone looks good but that is the worst video I ever saw. had to turn it off half way through. Terrible.
 
I'm disappoined with the Nexus S TBH. It's last year's hardware at a stupidly high price.

I'm looking towards HTC for my Android goodness instead.
 
The voice actions feature
iOS has basic voice features built in for dialing/media playback and I use the Google app for voice internet searches. Unfortunately I find Android's accuracy too low for much else.
Google Maps with Navigation
There are a lot of options for Nav on the iPhone. Mapquest is a good free option. This is a double edged sword for Android. The stock Map app is "good enough" to kill the market for premium Nav apps.
Little to no support right now. Looks nice on a feature list, but no benefit today. Expect all phones to add this in the next year or so.
Portable Wi-Fi hotspot
blocked on most handsets/carriers on stock ROM so rooting is required. JB your iPhone to get the same functionality
Internet calling (VoIP/ SIP support)
Android has nice integration, but there are many apps offer this for iOS. Talkatone is a good free GV voip app.
 
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