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Lets be blunt. Time and time again its been shown that Android users don't surf the web, don't buy products using their phone, don't buy software using their phone, don't do anything really with their phone anywhere near the extent that IOS users do. If Google as a service company wants people to use their services they have to chase the customers who actually spend money, and currently that is IOS users by a very very wide margin.

Source?

You don't have one because this has to be one of the dumbest comments I've ever read on this site (and that's saying something).

Seriously...think before you speak next time.
 
Google Now? Err, you mean Google Search, right? :rolleyes:

Nope, it's more like Google Spy. As in, we'll suck all the information out of your phone and your accounts and pop up ads, uhm I mean recommendations ;), as you walk down the block. Google Now is spyware.
 
Lets be blunt. Time and time again its been shown that Android users don't surf the web, don't buy products using their phone, don't buy software using their phone, don't do anything really with their phone anywhere near the extent that IOS users do. If Google as a service company wants people to use their services they have to chase the customers who actually spend money, and currently that is IOS users by a very very wide margin.

Android is almost like giving away free menus to the homeless, whats the point they are not going to come in and buy anything no matter how many you give away. So saying that you have X many "customers" based on the number of menus you have given away becomes meaningless when it comes to how much money you actually make.

Apple makes money from the hardware, from the carriers, from the users who do buy significant amount of Apps, Music and services, and google knows this and is desperate to get into that REAL revenue stream, not the imaginary one that Android provides.

hahahahahahahahahahaha thanks, your post is so hilarious I had a right good laugh at you! hhahahaha.

It's so full of FUD, yeah got any PROOF that android users never browse or buy apps then? Or IAP's?
Then again your comment about 'giving menus away to the homeless' pretty much sums up your total lack of knowledge of Android and it's users.
 
That was my reaction - all those functions are a huge opportunity to provide a lot of information about you and your personal life to Google.

Although I think it's strange that there are some people who know this and have no problems with it, what's really awful is the number of people who have no idea and would never approve all the information about them that gets sent to Google.
This argument has always confused me, because it makes it seem like providing information for Google to use to better target services at you is somehow an invasion of privacy that you think you have.

Credit card companies have known what you buy, when you buy it, where you live, and so on for over 50 years. The phone company has known who you call, when you call them, and (if the government wants) what you say for longer than that. Apple knows the sorts of things Google knows, as do many, many other large (and small) companies. Ever set up UPS so it'll let you know of deliveries to your address? Part of "proving" who you are involves answering multiple choice questions - one of mine involved the address an apartment I lived in for a month in 1989 (and UPS knew the right answer).

Privacy is dead. You can eke out a reasonably private online presence with Tor and the like, but unless you're off-grid in a cabin in Montana, what you do is known.

All Google is doing is making what they already know about me more useful to me. And I like that. I like flicking up on the screen before I head out in the morning and seeing the commute time and the weather. I like seeing all my package shipping and delivery info there. I like seeing flight info, movie times, and so on.

I haven't lost a bit of privacy, because I never really had that privacy in the first place. I'm just getting use of their big data, and it helps me. Same with Amazon's recommendations. Same with Netflix, etc.

You can't stop the information from going somewhere*. It might as well go to somewhere that gives you something in return.


* In general. Yes, you can stop provider X from getting information Y, but general information about you and what you do is out there, always. If you're not sure how much, pick some random person and spend $50 or so on a report on them, and you'll be amazed at what you can find out. Random people could spend the same $50 and find the same things out about you, even if you don't use Apple, Google, Facebook, Amazon, Netflix, credit cards, and so on.
 
Source?

You don't have one because this has to be one of the dumbest comments I've ever read on this site (and that's saying something).

Seriously...think before you speak next time.

Dude, just google "mobile web usage by platform" Ironic that your ignorant comment could have been prevented by Googling it.

I'll save you the google ad tracking cookie, here's a typical result

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/28/open_and_shut/
 
That was my reaction - all those functions are a huge opportunity to provide a lot of information about you and your personal life to Google.

Although I think it's strange that there are some people who know this and have no problems with it, what's really awful is the number of people who have no idea and would never approve all the information about them that gets sent to Google.

erm? The only way you will ever truly get privacy as you claim is for computers to never have existed! As stated above EVERYTHING you do practically is recorded, every email, website you visit, and as for the UK we have more CCTV cameras per person then any other country on the planet!

The idea of privacy in 2013 is very much a myth I'm afraid.

I should also add, I never set ANYTHING up relating to this, but if I add a calendar entry on my Nexus 7, it then syncs across ALL my devices, Apple or otherwise without me doing ANYTHING! Now THAT is what I want, THAT is not a breach of privacy, why can't Apple do this? Google can.
 
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Come to the Dark Side

Google: Come to the Dark Side.... We have cookies...

These free apps and services are the cookies. I believe this is Google's way of slowly trying to bring iOS users over to the Android platform. Think about it, if all of their products work great on iOS for free (While Apple is doing little to convince one to stay) wouldn't one start to think about switching?

I understand stability, build quality, and performance issues with Android.
I also understand that Google still values the iOS platform for advertising, especially iOS users considering data shows we have more web traffic. However, this seems to be the overall goal of trying to get us to switch.
 
google glass prototype on iOS then?

Ah, I didn't know about this, this is google Glass on a smartphone, right? Small display, exactly what you need... very interesting. I guess it would be worth exposing it to as many users, even on non-android, just to help tune it better and faster.

And yes, adding to the last poster's comment, then once people are hooked on this you can sell them the real google glass based on android! This isn't about hooking people back to android smart phones, I think.
 
This is really stupid. Name one native ios app that droid users use consistently.
When I say native, I meant made by apple. Anything???

I don't know why apple just don't put time to stuff like this... They can't even win on the browser war.. email?(none existent).. and don't even get me start on the map.. So what gives apple? Too busy sharing the wealth among wealthy?
 
This argument has always confused me, because it makes it seem like providing information for Google to use to better target services at you is somehow an invasion of privacy that you think you have.

This is the root of the argument right here. It's like some people are absolutely appalled at the though of sending Google location data, so they can better serve you data for your location.

Like with Google Now, if you tend to use your smartphone to look for restaurants around noon, and it starts spitting menus back at you unprompted around 12 PM after awhile, some people freak out because...Google Knows Everything About You. It's not a machine learning your patterns and intelligently applying them elsewhere. Oh no. It's Google spying on you.

It's almost as bad as that one guy here who freaked out and posted a conspiracy rant because he was searching for something, and the Google autocomplete thing finished what he was typing for him. He thought Google had him doxed to the point that it knew what he would search for long before he actually searched for it, and it scared the hell out of him, not at all realizing what it does is take data entered into the search engine, and gives you a response based on the most commonly entered term. It's not personalized at all. I could search for "lady of the lake", and the first autocomplete term I'd get would likely be "lady gaga". But that's too simple. Instead, it has to be...

...IT RECORDS WHAT YOU TYPE? AS IN EVERY THING I'VE SEARCHED FOR IS SAVED ON THEIR DATABASES? OMG! GOOGLE KNOWS!
 
Dude, just google "mobile web usage by platform" Ironic that your ignorant comment could have been prevented by Googling it.

I'll save you the google ad tracking cookie, here's a typical result

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/28/open_and_shut/

Fair enough, I'm man enough to admit when I was wrong.

But I don't get this at all. I have both an iPhone and Galaxy S3 and I'm easily 10 times more likely to surf, shop, and buy using my S3 than I am my iPhone. The larger screen alone is all the reason I need.

Something about this just doesn't seem right. I'm not doubting the numbers, but it feels like something is skewing the results they're presenting. How could it be possible for Android to have THAT many more phones in the wild, yet iOS users are the ones that create most of the traffic?
 
I saw several and all I cared about is they photographed me and my car against my will

If you don't want anybody to see you in public, then stay inside. There is nothing wrong with photographing anything in public, whether you are in the frame or not.
 
I want to like and use Google Now, but it's killing the battery life on my Nexus 4.....

In theory, a service that proactively shows you information it thinks you need by gathering data would be nice....

But given the battery life issue, the fact that I had to input all my "data" myself (didn't get my home address right, didn't pick my favorite teams right etc...), and the fact that as a personal assistant, Siri is much more capable (send texts for me, remind me of things) - these are the main reasons I turned Google Now off....

I can track my packages the "old fashioned" way....by clicking the tracking number in the email they sent me....
 
are the smaller roads worth it? the smaller streets in NYC aren't worth it trying to beat the traffic because of all the stop signs and traffic lights.

one time i had to drive across manhattan and the person i was with drove all the way around on the FDR and Riverside drive. a 5 mile trip took the same time as driving 1 mile through traffic.

What things are like in NYC != what things are like most places in the world. All sorts of normal things are unavailable.
 
The inevitability.

Slowing seeing a change from Mac fanboy to google fanboy. GoogleRumors anyone?
 
And a few key applications.

That was Apple's strategy with the mac. It fell on its face. The Mac never sold well, and now the entire category is dying.

Apple uses the opposite strategy now - it goes on and on and on and on about how many apps are available for iOS. Just this week Apple released two ads that do nothing except show you various random apps that can run on the platform.

Somehow, I don't think Apple is ever going to blunder with iOS the way it did with the Mac. Now that it knows how to make a successful platform, there is no turning back.

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I have full confidence in Ive that he is going to 'WOW' us all when iOS7 hits.

He hated the look of iOS and Forstall's skeuomorphic design...absolutely hated it.

Can't wait to see what a modern iOS and OSX is going to look like with Ive in charge.

No color. Just black and white.

No ornamentation of any kind - just blocky stark shapes with radiused corners.

And only one button. That is extremely important. Only one button.

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the iPhone 5 screen is not tiny... Why would you want a tv in your pocket?

AFAIK, nobody carries a TV in their pocket, but the sales statistics show that most people like a screen that is bigger than the old-school ones that Apple still uses.
 
I'm all for options. But I'm also for simplicity. This is just more ways to get the same data you already have in other ways. Not sure what is animation and what is app, but the whole vid was quite cheesy.

I had a Samsung Galaxy S3 for a while. Google Now was my favorite app.

Yes, it's true that it's a combination of other things. But it does it quite well.

My one favorite bit was how it handled my commute to work.

Google Now learns my commute routes and around what time I leave. I don't plug them in, it just learns that after X drives back and forth to here and there that it's a commute. My brother works at different sites not in his address book and it learned them.

So it will let me know what the traffic situation is (and estimate the drive-time). Which saves me from having to launch the maps on the way to my car, activate traffic, scroll around to see my route, and make an (inaccurate) estimate.

It does a bunch of other cool features, but the traffic bit is my favorite.

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Fair enough, I'm man enough to admit when I was wrong.

But I don't get this at all. I have both an iPhone and Galaxy S3 and I'm easily 10 times more likely to surf, shop, and buy using my S3 than I am my iPhone. The larger screen alone is all the reason I need.

Something about this just doesn't seem right. I'm not doubting the numbers, but it feels like something is skewing the results they're presenting. How could it be possible for Android to have THAT many more phones in the wild, yet iOS users are the ones that create most of the traffic?

I wonder if they're counting the iPad views as well.
 
Why exactly is that a shame?

Because features like Google Now and Google Maps are things that set Android apart from iOS - allowing them on iOS weakens Androids strength slightly. I guess it'd be like Apple releasing "iTunes sync for Android" and "Siri Android".

But as I said, I guess Google's primary concern is getting as many people using Google as possible.
 
Because features like Google Now and Google Maps are things that set Android apart from iOS - allowing them on iOS weakens Androids strength slightly. I guess it'd be like Apple releasing "iTunes sync for Android" and "Siri Android".

But as I said, I guess Google's primary concern is getting as many people using Google as possible.

As it always has been. Google makes the same money whether it comes through Android or iOS. The Apple analogy doesn't fit because Apple makes their money up front on the hardware, not on the back end like Google does. It's the reason Google sells the Nexus 4 at a loss and Amazon sells the Kindle Fire at cost. They just want you hooked into the ecosystem. How that happens is ultimately of little consequence to them.
 
I know it gives ppl more of a reason not to switch to android.

I'm not sure about that. Once iOS folks start to see what sorts of capabilities Android phones have, they likely will continue to switch to Android - maybe even faster than they are already switching to Android.
 
But the problem is that it's not all that great in other parts of the world.

Apple only cares about the US. And China now. If you don't give enough profits to apple, they don't care abut you. Just ask MacPro users.

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Different strokes for different folks. Not everybody needs a phone that's almost the size of a tablet, has NFC and tons of other wireless stuff other than Wi-Fi and BT, can shoot lasers, connects to Skynet, etc. :eek:

I guess you are saying that the iPhone is good enough for those who have only rudimentary needs?
 
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