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I have always a different phone for work, and I always try to get the latest Pixel. It looks like the my 256gb Pixel 6 Pro will get me $540 + $200 gift card. Looks tempting to try the 7 Pro lol
 
So will the Pixel. It just won't necessarily be getting new Android version updates, but will still be getting security updates.

Yeah they say that but we'll see. They aren't exactly known for keeping their word. They've supported a phone for three years exactly once, and they cut off support exactly at the three year mark, despite releasing a much needed patch to that Android version a month later, which that phone will never get.

And they seemed very proud of themselves for that. Anyone who trusts Google at this point just isn't paying attention.

Just like all the copies of Apple products they just released, Google often meets expectations on paper but misses the true point entirely.
 
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On your 3rd iPhone 14PM? Why, what’s the matter specifically? Excuses? Me thinks you just don’t like iPhones.
What’s the matter? 1st one from launch day, the volume down button would stick when pressing it causing it to turn the volume all the way down.

2nd: the camera rattle issue (before it was known that it was software related)

Currently: frame drops, every app and website constantly reload when accessing them from the app switcher.

Also, I’ve had iPhones since 2007, so yeah, I don’t like them. You got me. :rolleyes:
 
Ok I didn’t realise it was as much as that, last time I tried they were absolutely not fair. That’s good and I take the first part of my comment back.
 
Yeah they say that but we'll see. They aren't exactly known for keeping their word. They've supported a phone for three years exactly once, and they cut off support exactly at the three year mark, despite releasing a much needed patch to that Android version a month later, which that phone will never get.

And they seemed very proud of themselves for that. Anyone who trusts Google at this point just isn't paying attention.

Just like all the copies of Apple products they just released, Google often meets expectations on paper but misses the true point entirely.

Google has been putting their Android update and security update guarantee in writing for a few years now and to my knowledge has always kept their word here. Besides, even when a phone (whether it be Pixel, iPhone or another) no longer receives OS updates it can still be usable. It's not like phones automatically stop working when they no longer receive OS and/or security updates. Some people choose not to install OS updates even if their phone is still eligible, and the phone works fine. There are plenty of iPhones being used on a regular basis still on iOS 14.x or older.
 
To be fair they're offering a lot more than Apple. But I'd rather cut off my left leg with a rusty farm implement.
They're not offering more. I'm waiting for my 14 Pro Max and traded in my base 13 Pro Max (base 128gb) for $720 - that's way better than the $595 the author states is the trade-in.
 
I don't understand how the author can claim "high trade-in" value when I'm getting $720 trade-in from Apple for a base 13 Pro Max when I bought the base 14 Pro Max. The author him/herself indicated that Google is offering only $595 for the same trade.

I did my trade-in at apple.com on the day the 14 became available. Perhaps the trade-in values are now lower?
 
Google has been putting their Android update and security update guarantee in writing for a few years now and to my knowledge has always kept their word here. Besides, even when a phone (whether it be Pixel, iPhone or another) no longer receives OS updates it can still be usable. It's not like phones automatically stop working when they no longer receive OS and/or security updates. Some people choose not to install OS updates even if their phone is still eligible, and the phone works fine. There are plenty of iPhones being used on a regular basis still on iOS 14.x or older.
Yes, I feel like people don't seem to understand how Android works. Google breaks off the OS into discrete pieces, and breaks off more and more with each Android version. So even on my technically out-of-date device, I still get a barrage of random updates like "Google Connectivity Services," "Private Compute Services," "Android System Intelligence," and so on all the time. And that's to say nothing of core apps, which are also not tied to the version number of Android and so get updated regularly.

It's precisely because of how bad device manufacturers are at keeping Android up to date that they have to find a way to circumvent the issue. It's imperfect (kernel vulnerabilities are hard to address) and so it's still better to use a more recent device. Nevertheless, it's arguable (but obviously inflammatory and wrong) that Google keeps their phones up to date longer than Apple, if you consider certain criteria such as the compatibility of old devices with the latest versions of apps, for instance.
 
Google has been putting their Android update and security update guarantee in writing for a few years now and to my knowledge has always kept their word here. Besides, even when a phone (whether it be Pixel, iPhone or another) no longer receives OS updates it can still be usable. It's not like phones automatically stop working when they no longer receive OS and/or security updates. Some people choose not to install OS updates even if their phone is still eligible, and the phone works fine. There are plenty of iPhones being used on a regular basis still on iOS 14.x or older.

I’m just thinking of the Pixel 3 I believe that was abandoned on a very broken version of Android 12 (13?) and was deliberately not updated to .1 because it was EOL when there was absolutely no other reason to do that.

Apple has never done that. Their phones get abandoned on the last, most stable release.

Just one of the many little details that Google forgets / ignores / doesn’t care about.
 
T-Mobile just gave my mom $800 for her XR...
Can you give me a link to that please, I just run an XR up for trade in,
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They're not offering more. I'm waiting for my 14 Pro Max and traded in my base 13 Pro Max (base 128gb) for $720 - that's way better than the $595 the author states is the trade-in.
I don't understand how the author can claim "high trade-in" value when I'm getting $720 trade-in from Apple for a base 13 Pro Max when I bought the base 14 Pro Max. The author him/herself indicated that Google is offering only $595 for the same trade.

I did my trade-in at apple.com on the day the 14 became available. Perhaps the trade-in values are now lower?

The article is pointing out that Google offers more for customers specifically looking to trade a 1T iPhone 13 Pro Max. The Google trade value is $750 versus Apple’s $720. Apple doesn't adjust trade values based on storage size in the U.S. while Google does.
 
I’m just thinking of the Pixel 3 I believe that was abandoned on a very broken version of Android 12 (13?) and was deliberately not updated to .1 because it was EOL when there was absolutely no other reason to do that.

Apple has never done that. Their phones get abandoned on the last, most stable release.

Just one of the many little details that Google forgets / ignores / doesn’t care about.

The Pixel 3 and 3 XL received their last "guaranteed" OS and security updates in October 2021 as promised but have received some additional updates since.

Starting with the Pixel 6 and 6 Pro, Google has extended the security update guarantee to 5 years.
 
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The $800 trade figure no doubt requires a new line and/or specific plan level like Magenta MAX, along with a 24 month commitment during which trade in credits are spread out monthly.
Thank you. So that 800 is taken off the price off a 24 month plan and the price of the phone?

I still find it an incredible deal, it's actually more than the iPhone XR cost brand new. One would have thought that, that deal is a loss leader and no matter what phone was offered, be that Apple/Android/Google etc would get that $800 as a trade in?
 
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Thank you. So that 800 is taken off the price off a 24 month plan and the price of the phone?

You'll want to confirm specific details with T-Mobile but I'm assuming they will take the $800 trade and give a $33.33 ($800/24) credit each month for 24 months. So, if the plan costs $85/month you would pay $85 less $33.33 or $51.67/month for those 24 months.



I still find it an incredible deal, it's actually more than the iPhone XR cost brand new. One would have thought that, that deal is a loss leader and no matter what phone was offered, be that Apple/Android/Google etc would get that $800 as a trade in?

The original price of the iPhone XR ranged from $749 to $899 depending on storage size. T-Mobile is offering an inflated trade value to lock a customer in for 24 months on a new line and/or upper tier plan. This is similar to what happened years ago when carriers would discount phones when purchased with a 24 to 36 month plan contract.
 
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You'll want to confirm specific details with T-Mobile but I'm assuming they will take the $800 trade and give a $33.33 ($800/24) credit each month for 24 months. So, if the plan costs $85/month you would pay $85 less $33.33 or $51.67/month for those 24 months.





The original price of the iPhone XR ranged from $749 to $899 depending on storage size. T-Mobile is offering an inflated trade value to lock a customer in for 24 months on a new line and/or upper tier plan. This is similar to what happened years ago when carriers would discount phones when purchased with a 24 to 36 month plan contract.
Thank you very much, my friend, that makes perfect sense.
 
What’s the matter? 1st one from launch day, the volume down button would stick when pressing it causing it to turn the volume all the way down.

2nd: the camera rattle issue (before it was known that it was software related)

Currently: frame drops, every app and website constantly reload when accessing them from the app switcher.

Also, I’ve had iPhones since 2007, so yeah, I don’t like them. You got me. :rolleyes:
😄 well, that’s really unfortunate then.
 
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What’s the matter? 1st one from launch day, the volume down button would stick when pressing it causing it to turn the volume all the way down.

2nd: the camera rattle issue (before it was known that it was software related)

Currently: frame drops, every app and website constantly reload when accessing them from the app switcher.

Also, I’ve had iPhones since 2007, so yeah, I don’t like them. You got me. :rolleyes:

It used to be essentially unheard of to have a bad iPhone out of the box. It seems like in addition to the software quality being not finished, the hardware quality wasn’t up to standards this year either.

Maybe re-engineering that block of plastic instead of a SIM slot took too much time. Apparently Apple couldn’t get enough hole punch displays either. And we just saw the article on how much more expensive the A16 is.

Definitely, clearly an off year for Apple. If they don’t have another Snow Leopard year next year, they never will.
 
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