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Good to see that Google has their crap together just as well as they always have.
 
VPN companies can’t access your data. That’s the whole point of a VPN. Absolute security.
A VPN tunnel only encrypts data between your client and the VPN server. At that end it gets routed to the public Internet unencrypted (by the VPN, at least) and could be intercepted and inspected by the VPN provider. That’s exactly what Facebook’s Onavo VPN service did, which they used to identify WhatsApp as an acquisition target. It would be surprising if other VPN providers weren’t selling data in some form, especially at the price points some offer.

The only things public VPNs really do is keep your ISP or random public WiFi network from being the one doing the intercepting and hide your public IP address from sites you connect to, with avoiding region locks as a bonus.
 
VPN companies can’t access your data. That’s the whole point of a VPN. Absolute security.
I think you fundamentally misunderstand what a VPN company can see. My company VPN can see every website I have accessed, every email sent and received, everything. Installing a separate app to make their VPN work also opens you up to further snooping. And this is just an off the shelf VPN. VPN's are not about security and privacy, they are about allowing you a secure connection into another network.
 
That’s how these companies are, they’re not going to provide give any information why the app disappeared. Transparency is not key here, being discreet as possible without notifying is. Unfortunately, that seems to be the mantra for many tech companies in these situations.
 
Private Relay isn't a VPN... and besides, there are many other VPN apps on the App Store and Apple didn't remove those apps.
It is not a FULL tunnel VPN but operates more like a split tunnel VPN. Some of the traffic is absolutely routed like a VPN but not all of the traffic.

The safari traffic per HT212614 indicates it created a "relay" (which in realty is a tunnel) to apple servers so all DNS and safari data can be forwarded via another "relay" to the second provider who will use temporary IP's to submit your data request etc.

Basically its a Split tunnel VPN to Apple then apple tunnels that data to another..

It is just not a Full Tunnel VPN.
It also works with webkit so its just not the safari web browser but really anything using webkit which is the underlying engine powering any browser on iOS... So.......


TLDR: Private Relay is a Split Tunnel VPN and not a Full Tunnel VPN.
 
I think you fundamentally misunderstand what a VPN company can see. My company VPN can see every website I have accessed, every email sent and received, everything. Installing a separate app to make their VPN work also opens you up to further snooping. And this is just an off the shelf VPN. VPN's are not about security and privacy, they are about allowing you a secure connection into another network.
It's essentially shifting the trust to the VPN provider from the other parties at play.
 
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Nope. They will do what every VPN does: harvest your data better than even Facebook can manage. So it is right up Google's street to get in on that level of deep data harvesting.
Proof? I’d like to see where these accusations of a data mining VPN from Google are coming from. If it were free, I might buy that. However, it’s not.
 
VPN companies can’t access your data. That’s the whole point of a VPN. Absolute security.

lol. every VPN company knows everything you are doing. At best they will say 'no logs policy' but the logs had to exist in the 1st place. Trust is all you have that they will not reveal anything. Good luck with that.

'Absolute Security' - I am crying right now ?
 
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Proof? I’d like to see where these accusations of a data mining VPN from Google are coming from. If it were free, I might buy that. However, it’s not.
For any VPN provider, and Google especially, whose primary business model is collecting and monetizing exactly the kind of data that would go over a VPN, the burden of proof should be on them to prove they’re not doing anything like that. And it doesn’t have to be free, just priced low enough that it’s competitive.
 
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lol. every VPN company knows everything you are doing. At best they will say 'no logs policy' but the logs had to exist in the 1st place. Trust is all you have that they will not reveal anything. Good luck with that.

'Absolute Security' - I am crying right now ?
Not to mention the logs need to exist if a customer has any issue. If a customer complains about service level and the tech just says "Sorry, I cannot see what the issue is because we don't keep logs on customers."
 
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Is there any VPN service provider that can be trusted?

Is the only use of VPN to bypass geo-restriction?
 
why are you guys talking down on google for their privacy concerns when apple's icloud has already been hacked many times throughout the years?
 
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