Google Paid Apple $20 Billion in 2022 to Be Default Safari Search Engine

[zombierunner]

Funny thing is 99% of people would have just gone in the menu and changed it to google anyways.

 

[mrochester]

I'm not expecting them to give the answer directly. But they are and one is giving the wring answer. I'd be fine if no answer was given.

I think that’s the point, both answers are arguably wrong. It depends how you define ‘camera’.

 

[mdriftmeyer]

How is this an article now? It was known and published by Arstechnica at least three months prior.

 

[m4mario]

I think that’s the point, both answers are arguably wrong. It depends how you define ‘camera’.

Google's answer is correct, but is arguably wrong. Bing's answer is just plain wrong.

 

[ngextreme]

We should all understand just how much we (our data) is worth and stand up for retaining that data and or get paid for it.

So, would you like to pay for it? That's the other option. You think everything is free, should be provided to you just because. But wait, if Google starts charging everyone, do you not think Bing and the rest will pick up everything else, because YOU will never want to pay to search stuff.

 

[ngextreme]

Some of these antitrust disputes are getting out of hand. Antibusiness

In the world of games consoles this is normal. In television, this is normal. Pay to get an exclusive rights. This is just governments wanting some extra money. Microsoft is a big enough company. THEY could if they wanted to, pay $30b to apple and out-bid google. But they didn't.

 

[spartan1967]

This was actually a lower cost to Google than a marketing campaign to educate people they can choose their default search engine in settings? Either Google did not do their due diligence or this is a prime example of your typical Apple user being that uninformed.

 

[ifxf]

I wanna get paid for being a product of Google. Is that possible?

You get to access their search engine.

 

[wanha]

The deal is that Google pays Apple so they can track you. Apple values privacy above all else except money.

This is true, but fortunately it is very easy to switch your default search engine if you value your privacy.

 

[Drs247]

That’s a lil less than $20/user for the year. The question is how much do they make in ad revenue/Apple user and I’m pretty sure it’s quite a lot more than $20/year.
That said, my default search has never been Google

 

[bigjnyc]

Makes you wonder how lucrative all that search data they harvest is… if they are willing to spend $20B on exclusivity, what’s their take selling the data?

They make about $55B in revenue from searches conducted on Safari.... it says right there in the article they pay Apple 36%

 

[Ortiz83]

The deal is that Google pays Apple so they can track you. Apple values privacy above all else except money.

To be fair, they don’t force you to use Google. It’s just the default browser, that can easily be changed but the user.

 

[mrochester]

To be fair, they don’t force you to use Google. It’s just the default braised, that can easily be changed but the user.

Yeah there’s something quite funny about Google paying Apple all that money to be the default only for me to switch the setting to something else 😂

 

[hagjohn]

How much is our privacy? 20 Billion.

 

[Ortiz83]

Yeah there’s something quite funny about Google paying Apple all that money to be the default only for me to switch the setting to something else 😂

And yet most don’t switch it. There’s a reason they pay it.

 

[mrochester]

And yet most don’t switch it. There’s a reason they pay it.

Exactly. That’s why I think a fair solution would be create a regulation that says a search engine with over a certain share of the market is prohibited from bidding to be the default. That way:

a) Apple still gets to sell the default spot for lots of money
b) Google can’t further cement its dominance by being banned from participating
c) Users can still change their default search engine to something else.

Win, win, win.

 

[rp2011]

I'm a little surprised Google would pay this amount. It's not like there's a market alternative that 99.9% of Apple product users would flock to.

That's EXACTLY why the Department of Justice needed to go after Google long ago. Unlike Apple, Google has been a virtual search monopoly for far too long, and paying that type of money to Apple kept it that way. There was no way even for deep pockets like Microsoft or anyone else to crack the market. All the while Google Search has been getting worse and worse without a care because they KNEW there was little anyone could do about it. Good for the DoJ to finally wake up and good for new tech like LLM's to shake that up.

 

[Nekronos]

this antitrust case around search has been frivolous from the start, absolutely baseless when the ability to change browsers exists and is easy to do.

The reason people say just "google it" is because google revolutionized search and they did that long before iphone.

 

[MacAndMic]

This is what the documents show but I get the feeling it goes deeper than that. You know how you get the feeling your phone is always listening to you maybe some access to that.

 

[RezSeeker]

How is this an article now? It was known and published by Arstechnica at least three months prior.

Yeah exactly. Rehashed news just a day before earnings. Lol

 

[DEMinSoCAL]

So, would you like to pay for it? That's the other option. You think everything is free, should be provided to you just because. But wait, if Google starts charging everyone, do you not think Bing and the rest will pick up everything else, because YOU will never want to pay to search stuff.

This and ad-free TV -- both people think that out of the goodness of the providers hearts, they should have ad-free TV/movies for free and free internet. The only reason the internet is free is because your data has value. When you stop having accessible data or it becomes useless, things will have to change. Providers/web hosters, etc., don't spend millions/billions as a charity.

 

[cocky jeremy]

Oh, **** off. It's not like people can't change it. The federal government and all of its agencies can just go the **** away.

 

[Mike_Trivisonno]

Google "Search" is so poorly implemented at this point that it's probably only good for state-run propaganda services.

 

[citysnaps]

Apple as a company is coming out to be more and more pathetic with every passing day. So much money and they are still penny pinching loyal customers with base storage and ram sizes.

No worries, mate. Just go with a tech company who you believe treats its loyal customers better. Easy.

Will you do it?

 

[I7guy]

Lets not lie to ourselves here. Google isn't paying $20,000,000,000.00 a year for nothing. Apple markets itself as a privacy focused company because that works for them right now. As a publicly traded company they absolutely must grow or their stock price collapses. Unlike their competitors they have only one product that make them money and with phone sales stagnating, Apple car abandoned and the Vision Pro not getting any real traction where do they go? Services are what they talk about but I don't think Apple TV+ or Apple Music are the real services generator. I think its iCloud making the real money. Apple gives almost no free storage so once your photos are full you are almost forced to pay. Pay attention when Apple changed the default camera resolution from 12mp to 24mp. This wasn't a quality decision, this was a way to fill up your iCloud drive faster to generate that sweet sweet cash. While iCloud is a separate division and part of services it is still just an extension of the iPhone meaning without iPhone there is no Apple services revenue.

Lets do the math here. We have a company with investors that demand growth selling a product that has sales slowing worldwide. If Tim Cook can't make Apple grow then eventually he'll be replaced. If Apple is taking Googles money then they are already monetizing customer data. How long do you think it will take before he or his successor decides to go all in especially with government intervention stopping Apples ability to lock people in?

Closed systems and closed source software are liabilities for end users once the greed switch gets flipped.

Prime example of a post that cites facts but has hyperbolic conclusion. Apple CarPlay is not abandoned; iPhone sales are not stagnating nor is it the end of the world with AVP.

At any rate posts like this tend to go stale at earnings calls.