Even worse most people here blindly criticize everything apple does. Even though apple is one of the most privacy focused of tech companies.
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Google Paid Apple $20 Billion in 2022 to Be Default Safari Search Engine
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Spot on. It's baffling why people who are so upset with Apple that they need to vent their displeasure day after day after day on a public forum for years, lack will and agency to simply purchase a superior product from a competitor company and find happiness.
Ill never understand the hate for Apples Ecosystem. How is this any different than buying a surface and bing/edge are the default and you have to physically go and download another browser to make it the default?
I doubt it.
By being in an agreement with Google, Apple gets another source of income with minimal capital investment of their own. Apple is just cashing in on prior investments (in making popular products.)
To have their own search engines, Apple would have to implement even more server farms, and that is expensive.
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The Post PC Era is in full swing. I mean that in the sense that Steve Jobs meant it: most people are doing the vast majority of their computing on iPhone or other mobile devices.
It used to be where you needed a Mac or PC to check email, surf the net, listen to music, manage your photos, etc.
Now people do most of those things on the go.
Granted, there are those of us that use PCs and Macs for work, and for gaming, etc. But still, by the time we get home or to work to do that we've done a LOT of iPhone computing.
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I never said Carplay was abandoned, I was referring to the Apple Car project where they intended to enter the automotive industry.
Smartphone sales have been declining worldwide since their peak in 2017/2018. This is an easily verifiable fact if you're so inclined to check. This is one of the reasons Apple quit reporting iPhone unit sales numbers around that time. It makes sense because we have market saturation where everyone who wants a smart phone already has one. We also have a market where those who have smart phones are keeping them longer which reduces yearly sales. I do agree it won't affect their earnings call in the short term because Apple can't let that happen.
The earnings call is my point though. In order to keep the growth investors expect Apple has to make choices. They can charge more per phone, tack on service charges like a reoccurring icloud subscription or they can hope Apple TV, news and Music grow faster.
If that doesn't offset the difference they will do what they have to in order to sustain growth. They have no choice unfortunately.
While that is certainly true, it doesn’t pin a number on the halo effect of users on iPhone moving over to their Macs and PCs to do the same (since people generally use what they are most comfortable with). I’d be interested in THAT value as I’m guessing it’s substantially more than $55B.
"Best:
DuckDuckGo (no Tracking, results from many search engines)
Ecosia (no Tracking, results from Bing, money is spent for planting trees worldwide)
Startpage (no Tracking, certified data protection, sadly not available on iOS, iPadOS)"
Startpage works for me just fine…
DuckDuckGo (no Tracking, results from many search engines)
Ecosia (no Tracking, results from Bing, money is spent for planting trees worldwide)
Startpage (no Tracking, certified data protection, sadly not available on iOS, iPadOS)"
Startpage works for me just fine…
Agreed, it's extremely annoying. I have never and will never say "google it". Google is trash now anyway... Apple should move on from the dumb deal with them... and also let people use any search engine they want instead of the small handful of approved search engines.
Just tried Brave Search app and I have to agree with you. It’s pretty good and I believe it’s better than Duck Duck Go. When you go into the app, it has links to YouTube, Wikipedia, Twitter, etc. If you click on the YouTube link, I haven’t experienced any ads of the videos I’ve viewed. I compared the regular YouTube app to double check myself and watched the same video. Sure enough there was 2 shameless ads at the beginning of the video. I would definitely give Brave search a shot if you are looking for an alternative to Google.
That's a ton of money!
I also thought of a problem with this: Google's search quality has been getting really bad for a long time. If they can buy their way out of competition rather than competing on quality, it explains why
This is bad for consumers, the internet, and culture in general. I don't think we can afford to accept that status quo
I also thought of a problem with this: Google's search quality has been getting really bad for a long time. If they can buy their way out of competition rather than competing on quality, it explains why
This is bad for consumers, the internet, and culture in general. I don't think we can afford to accept that status quo
I removed Google as the default search engine many years ago. I can't remember the last time I performed a Google search.
Sometimes you just have to say, what the duck....
Sometimes you just have to say, what the duck....
As soon as we first pay for using their products..I wanna get paid for being a product of Google. Is that possible?
I’m just sayin’… Nothing is free…
I wanna get paid for being a product of Google. Is that possible?
You get "paid" via a discount on (free use of) Google products that would otherwise have to be purchased. Instead of paying for Google search, paying for Google Chrome, paying for Google Maps, paying for Google Workspace including Gmail, Calendar, Meet, etc. you get to use them for "free."
According to Apple’s last 10k filing, $20 billion is 23.5% of Apple’s total fiscal year 2023 services revenue of $85.2 billion. At that percentage, “large chunk” is almost an understatement.
Not only can it be easily changed, but you have other tools you can use to keep Google from tracking all your activity. Never create a Google or YouTube account. If you have to have one for work, only log into it from a device used exclusively for work and always log out of it. [As an aside: Keep work and personal devices separate. Don’t do personal things on your work computer. Don’t do work things on your personal devices.] Turn on “Private Relay”. Use “Hide My Email” and pseudonyms when creating accounts. Use private browsing for your searches and access to other Google services. Use a VPN to get another layer of protection to prevent tracking by IP address.