Sure. And when I say the devices are not "exciting" I should say I really mean on a really big scale. Like the iPhone and iPad releases. Mind-blowing stuff. I do get excited about new Apple products, but I now have tempered expectations.
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Google Pixel 4's Face Unlock Feature Works With Eyes Closed, Sparking Security Concerns
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Sure. And when I say the devices are not "exciting" I should say I really mean on a really big scale. Like the iPhone and iPad releases. Mind-blowing stuff. I do get excited about new Apple products, but I now have tempered expectations.
I do not use Google maps, gmail or Google docs, nor do I use them for search. However, it seems silly to say that just because one uses one thing that might be able to track some portion of one’s activities that one should be ok with all aspects of one’s activities being tracked.
Thank you for the info on Apple allowing closed eyes to work also if the user wants it.
Out of interest does that speed up the process or not require the swipe up either?
Well is is a non issue right now, as people are complaining about an aspect of a product that's not even for sale yet!
Let's watch the time-frame between when the phone can officially be purchased and this aspect of the software is changed shall we
No, it doesn't change anything really except make your phone less secure. I've done it several times and I cannot see any difference in speed. Some articles suggest it will speed up the process when you are wearing sunglasses, but not sure about that.
I don't have one. Probably won't be getting one. But this is a non issue to me. Isn't this something that could already be done with a fingerprint scanner? Who was stressing about that?
At the end of the day if you have massive concerns about someone forcing you to unlock your phone without you knowing, a password with multiple numbers, letters, symbols is probably best. And it should be something you use for nothing else.
having said all of that, assuming this facial recognition is actually checking thousands of points in the users face (much like face ID) I can only imagine that implementing an open/closed eye check would be relatively trivial.
faceID on my X is faster than it was on iOS 12, notably so. I'm not over heat wondering if it became less secure as a result.
At the end of the day if you have massive concerns about someone forcing you to unlock your phone without you knowing, a password with multiple numbers, letters, symbols is probably best. And it should be something you use for nothing else.
having said all of that, assuming this facial recognition is actually checking thousands of points in the users face (much like face ID) I can only imagine that implementing an open/closed eye check would be relatively trivial.
faceID on my X is faster than it was on iOS 12, notably so. I'm not over heat wondering if it became less secure as a result.
It is a simple solution really. They just need to do it.
Ive only used a 4 digit code or pattern for unlocking my phones in the last 10 years. My fingerprint for apps like banking is the exception.
Pre ordered the pixel 4. Cant wait and haters gonna hate
Pre ordered the pixel 4. Cant wait and haters gonna hate
Google to update Pixel 4 face unlock with eye detection ‘in the coming months`
In the meanwhile, learn how to use the lockdown feature
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So we have a final statement from Google.
They will push an update to enable the need to have the eyes opened in order to unlock the phone.
Also I don't know why I didn't think about it but if a user is paranoid somebody would try to unlock his phone when he's sleeping he can just use the Lockdown feature present in stock Android and the phone will require a password to unlock the next time. Also I think there are ways to force a lockdown automatically based on a time schedule.
To some extent, it is a regression. With fingerprint scanners, you don't know which finger might be used for authentication. You might guess a thumb, but even there the odds are 50/50 on which hand. Not to mention the handling of a sleeping person's hand might actually wake him/her up.
Google to update Pixel 4 face unlock with eye detection ‘in the coming months`
In the meanwhile, learn how to use the lockdown feature
So we have a final statement from Google.
They will push an update to enable the need to have the eyes opened in order to unlock the phone.
Also I don't know why I didn't think about it but if a user is paranoid somebody would try to unlock his phone when he's sleeping he can just use the Lockdown feature present in stock Android and the phone will require a password to unlock the next time. Also I think there are ways to force a lockdown automatically based on a time schedule.
Yeah, but lockdown only works once so you have to set it every time. Glad to hear Google is going to work on adding in this functionality. Although....it is going to take "months"? Wow.
Also calls motion sense a gimmick but praises face unlock speed. The XL review was slightly better:
https://www.androidcentral.com/google-pixel-4-xl-review
not really a surprise...battery life was already one of the first concerns brought up based on the specs. 90hz screen with somewhat smaller batteries compared to its counterparts. It'd be even worse if the phones could get as bright as others like the Samsungs and Iphones.
Again, you are simply ignoring that i'm talking about the end result with respect to unlock, regardless of the technology.
I've explained it multiple times and you keep going back to your same flawed argument, so I am not going to try to correct your intentional miscomprehension any more.
The end result, as in unlocking the phone? Well according to your logic the in-display fingerprint sensor can also be added to the mix as it achieves the same end result.
So you actually don't have a real point. Then when did you replay to me when I was talking about something very specific, which in the end you haven't countered in any real way?
Seriously, where did you correct my argument?
I was explaining what Soli does in respects to the facial unlock system before you are even able to touch the phone and you responded with: The Apple m-series coprocessor does the exact same thing when you pick up the phone or more correctly After you pick up the phone. So you just added irrelevant information to the mix.
This is a short Gif showcasing Soli's capabilities. I hope this makes it more obvious to you about what I was talking.
Google to update Pixel 4 face unlock with eye detection ‘in the coming months`
In the meanwhile, learn how to use the lockdown feature
So we have a final statement from Google.
They will push an update to enable the need to have the eyes opened in order to unlock the phone.
Also I don't know why I didn't think about it but if a user is paranoid somebody would try to unlock his phone when he's sleeping he can just use the Lockdown feature present in stock Android and the phone will require a password to unlock the next time. Also I think there are ways to force a lockdown automatically based on a time schedule.
A pathetic response from Google.
If they had this feature working already and it was just a decision to leave out, then they could implement it easily in a couple days (after all, it was already a working feature).
The fact it's going to take months tells me they didn't even think about it while working on their version of Face Unlock. Which is unbelieavble considering they went through this way back with Jelly Bean when they added Liveness Check to the first version of Face Unlock specifically to make sure a real person was looking at the device.
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Since the iPhone 11 is superior in numerous ways, the extra $200 is peanuts. Many people would pay that just to avoid all the data mining Google does on users.
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We already knew that motion sense would be a gimmick. It's been tried before and nobody uses it. It would have to be 100% reliable before people would start using it over simply tapping your screen once to do the same thing.
Oh yeah get a nice unnecessary final jab in there.
It's what most users did in this thread anyway. It's very amusing how this subject is more popular in terms of replays on an Apple forum than on Android forums. I guess Google must be doing something right that is gets so much attention from the competition.
But they did think about it. Here's the proof.
You are welcomed.
Since when is telling the truth a "jab"?
The reason it's popular is because it exposes the utter hypocrisy of all the Apple haters who flourish in these forums. Now they're pathetically trying to justify the Pixel 4 missing an important feature that they would have crucified Apple had it happened to them.
BTW, why should an Apple forum be chock full of Android users in the first place? Don’t they have their own forums/clubs to talk about their devices?
A screenshot is proof? Interesting you link the screenshot but not the article it was from for any context. It's trivial to do UI mockups. It doesn't mean all the underlying code has been written to implement a toggle you see on the screen.
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I'm guessing they had it in there and it didn't work very well so they took it out and hoped no one would notice.
