That is a confusing sentence. If you use a third party screen protector then the fingerprint can be defeated.
It is enabled by default.
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That is a confusing sentence. If you use a third party screen protector then the fingerprint can be defeated.
It is enabled by default.
To use the fingerprint scanner, you will have to touch my hand. Good chance that I will wake up.
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Places where you are most likely to sleep are at home, and (second by a long distance) say on a train, or at work. At home there is a huge chance that a jeaulous wife / husband, or an idiot sibling, will cause you problems. On a train it hugely increases the chances of your phone being stolen, because it can be taken AND unlocked.
Again, most likely to wake up the victim. And it needs preparation. About a factor 100 less likely to happen.
Well, if you train Face ID on a doll, anyone can use the same doll to defeat Face ID. The fact that a setting is a default does not mean that it is used by most people. It is a well known fact that, if enabled, attention detection introduces an annoying delay. Because of this many people disable it.
Threat of force turns it from theft to armed robbery, which means the police will try a lot harder to catch you, and you are in much more trouble when caught.
Why would anyone train Face ID with a doll? That makes no sense. And what basis do you have for saying "many people" disable attention detection? Attention detection is enabled on my iPhone and there is no "annoying delay". If you are going to make claims like this about a large group of people then you need to reference your data and its source.
I think the people highest at risk are young people still living with their parents who have an idiot as a sibling. A sibling living in the same home would have no problem getting at your phone and unlocking at while you're asleep, and some would be idiotic enough to cause serious damage. And think it is funny. And what makes it worse, you are not allowed by law to strangle them.
There are many articles on Internet explaining how to speed up Face ID by disabling attention detection (here is one example). There must be a reason for this. The doll example explains the technical issue. Obviously, Samsung had to do a better job explaining the danger of using certain class of screen protectors.
You train Face ID with a doll if you want to put a video on Youtube demonstrating that Face ID is so unsafe that it can be unlocked using a doll. Which has happened. Also, if unlocking fails, and you then unlock the phone with your passcode, FaceID will assume that the failed face should have been able to unlock the phone. So if you give your mate the phone and the passcode and retrain FaceID, you can then make a Youtube video demonstrating that another person can unlock your iPhone.
That article is talking about speeding up Face ID while wearing sunglasses.
"But that specific feature also has its problems. Some kinds of sunglasses prevent Face ID from seeing your eyes, and the process of detecting them takes time. It isn’t a long time, but it’s often a noticeable one."
This is a specific case and still unadvisable. Regardless, this shows nothing about how many people have disabled attention detection due to its lack of speed. The doll example doesn't explain anything.
And the problem with Samsung isn't the "certain class of screen protectors". It is a problem Samsung needs to fix and they have said they will.
That's hilarious. So basically fake Youtube videos....
When someone puts a glass screen protector with holes the fingerprint sensor sees the wholes and not the fingerprint. Screen protector is playing the role of the doll here. Obviously, the analogy ends there for nobody would use the doll inadvertently but people might use screen protectors being unaware how they fool the fingerprint sensor.
More lies. It doesn’t introduce any “annoying” delay.
I’m going to need a source for the ridiculous claim that “many people disable it”. I suspect it’s just another fabrication of yours without a shred of proof to back it up. Fits in with your history.
Samsung’s sensor is pathetic as are all the excuses people are making to cover for them.
The first under-screen sensors were optical and could easily be fooled with a fake print. Samsung uses an ultrasonic sensor which is supposed to be immune from flat, 2 dimensional images. It’s supposed to be able to detect the ridges/valleys of a fingerprint and have higher security than an optical sensor.
Apparently it’s not that good at detecting a 3 dimensional fingerprint, if it can be so easily fooled by a flat screen protector.
If this issue had happened on the iphone, we would be having multiple threads crying “gate!” and calling for Tim Cook’s dismissal.
Instead, because it’s happening on android, and since it doesn’t give the haters anything to bash Apple with, we see them now bending over backwards to rationalise how this isn’t an issue despite Apple having solved it with the iPhone X (1st gen, no less).
The blatant double standards never ceases to amuse me.
Instead, because it’s happening on android, and since it doesn’t give the haters anything to bash Apple with, we see them now bending over backwards to rationalise how this isn’t an issue despite Apple having solved it with the iPhone X (1st gen, no less).
The blatant double standards never ceases to amuse me.
Not a fan of face Id due to that huge forehead on the pixel or the ugly notch in the case of the iPhone. I've never had a problem with security with a fingerprint scanner and most likely never will.
Cultofmac:
But what if you’re too lazy to point your eyes and your face at your iPhone whenever you want to look at it? What if you prefer to give it a sidelong glance, to show it who’s boss? Then you can disable attention awareness, which speeds up the Face ID process and unlocks your iPhone X faster.
Now, give us the link that states that attention awareness does not slow down the unlocking. I suspect that you won which fits with your history.
I don’t think anyone is disputing there is a delay. The dispute is whether it’s “annoying”
You either totally don't get it or are intentionally lying. It is because Samsung's sensor reads the 3D picture is why it doesn't work with some screen protectors. Not flat screen protectors as you claim but with the tempered glass screen protectors. Tempered glass prevents capacitive sensing. Because of that, tempered glass screens have holes which are obviously closer to the sensor than the finger and thus they are sensed by the sensor instead of the fingerprint.
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Is there such a thing as a delay that is not annoying? Why do the web sources then give an advice on how to disable the feature? Just to reduce the security protection?
That’s not a citation of “many people” as you claim. It only reiterates what Apple says about it.
Silicone screen protectors. Not tempered glass screen protectors. Regardless, the problem is with Samsung's software.
"This issue involved ultrasonic fingerprint sensors unlocking devices after recognizing 3-dimensional patterns appearing on certain silicone screen protecting cases as users’ fingerprints."
https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_is...t_vulnerability_on_s10__note10-news-39708.php
"Most reports from iPhone X users say that Face ID disappears as soon as you set it up, unlocking things when you want them, and locking them when you don’t. Probably the best reason for disabling attention awareness is the sunglasses scenario mentioned above, or if you’re a blank-eyed zombie. For everything else, there’s probably not much point switching away from the default."
From the same article you linked. The speed of Face ID has never been an issue except when wearing sunglasses. You still haven't made a point that you can actually back up regarding Face ID.
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There is no delay, and if you had an iPhone with Face ID you could see for yourself.
But im glad you realize you can reduce security. Too bad one can’t increase security on the px4.
I just go by the fact that whenever there is a discussion about face id vs fingerprint where fingerprint people say that it's faster face id people start suggesting disabling attention detection.
That is entirely anecdotal and not representative of anything.
It’s not faster, IMO, it’s more convenient. More convenience vs less secure. But it’s opt in.