You know, how true. Every year the camera bump keeps getting bigger and bigger like its a tumor.
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Google Pixel Fold Design, Specs Leaked Ahead of Expected May 2023 Launch
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That camera bump sucks. Unfolded, it makes it wobble if you lay it down. That said, most normal people (ie not me) use a case so hopefully that evens it out.
I've been using a Fold 4 since launch and I love it. The only issue I have is iMessage and that keeps it from being my primary. Otherwise, it makes me realize how useless the added size of my 12 Pro Max is and it makes me want a new Mini instead of going for another Max.
Back to the Fold 4, it's generally true about the crease, you stop noticing it after a while. But if you use it in landscape, your thumb will feel it as you're scrolling around and you become conscious of it again. It also makes pen use a little annoying. Could be better, but overall it's not a big deal.
I was surprised that video size isn't much better than my 12 Pro Max, mostly due to the aspect ratio. But for working on documents like spreadsheets or Word and editing images, it's a million times more useful.
I've been using a Fold 4 since launch and I love it. The only issue I have is iMessage and that keeps it from being my primary. Otherwise, it makes me realize how useless the added size of my 12 Pro Max is and it makes me want a new Mini instead of going for another Max.
Back to the Fold 4, it's generally true about the crease, you stop noticing it after a while. But if you use it in landscape, your thumb will feel it as you're scrolling around and you become conscious of it again. It also makes pen use a little annoying. Could be better, but overall it's not a big deal.
I was surprised that video size isn't much better than my 12 Pro Max, mostly due to the aspect ratio. But for working on documents like spreadsheets or Word and editing images, it's a million times more useful.
Can't wait for foldable smartphones to join the club of 3D TVs and bubble tea aka. the weird flops.
It feels like a hassle to have to unfold something to use it, its why most phone cases don't have a flap on the front.
Why sell you a single device that serves as both a laptop and a tablet, when they can sell you two separate devices, each with different accessories, and make more money?
Product strategy isn't solely about what's technically feasible (it's unfortunate for our wallets too).
I only notice it on ZFlip4 if I have it on a table and there is overhead light. I don't even feel it anymore when scrolling
I am happy for them, but I don't need a foldable, and the market has shown little to no change in growth.
Most people are fine without them, which leaves it at hobbyist niche.
Most people are fine without them, which leaves it at hobbyist niche.
Bubble tea still lives. I love it. The other flops like 3D were the dumb ones with the built in VHS or CD slots.
It’s actually so practical, having a tablet when you need it, read something on the road on a bigger tablet-like screen and then fold it and put back into your pocket.
It’s funny how people try to find issues or reasons to hate a product when it’s not made by their favorite company.
Frankly, the people who cannot imagine a use case for a foldable phone are the same people who couldn't see a use case for a smartphone in the mid-00s even though I agree the tech is not quite there yet, some kinks need to be ironed out, the software improved and -- most importantly -- the prices need to come way down. I do not think that foldables will replace regular smartphones in the same way as regular smartphones have replaced dumb phones, but I agree with others here that as soon as Apple releases a foldable the forum will shift its narrative.
This is basically the size of an iPhone Mini that folds out into a decent-sized mini tablet. You can read a book or browse the web on a big screen. You can message and watch a show on your commute, you can open your calendar while you do other things, open Amazon and research the products you're buying at the same time etc etc etc. These are not things like a 3D TV, it's stuff people do every day. Call it a gimmick if you want, but I remember people arguing very passionately about how no one ever would want to consume any media on a phone (gasp), yet here we are.
I would buy a foldable, even today, if the price wasn't totally out of my reach. I'm very much convinced that the primary factor inhibiting wider success of foldables, even today with all the other drawbacks such as creases and non-optimised software, is price. Bring it down and they will come.
This is basically the size of an iPhone Mini that folds out into a decent-sized mini tablet. You can read a book or browse the web on a big screen. You can message and watch a show on your commute, you can open your calendar while you do other things, open Amazon and research the products you're buying at the same time etc etc etc. These are not things like a 3D TV, it's stuff people do every day. Call it a gimmick if you want, but I remember people arguing very passionately about how no one ever would want to consume any media on a phone (gasp), yet here we are.
I would buy a foldable, even today, if the price wasn't totally out of my reach. I'm very much convinced that the primary factor inhibiting wider success of foldables, even today with all the other drawbacks such as creases and non-optimised software, is price. Bring it down and they will come.
IMHO still not quite there yet, but you can tell that the tech is steadily improving.
Hopefully someone fixes the crease issue someday. It is very ugly and distracting.
Also the "glass" on the fold feels very cheap to me.. but i guess it can't feel the same if it has to be able to bend.
Hopefully someone fixes the crease issue someday. It is very ugly and distracting.
Also the "glass" on the fold feels very cheap to me.. but i guess it can't feel the same if it has to be able to bend.
There is a screen you can use while the phone is folded. The article even has a photo of it.
Sure, because people never complain about issues with Apple products around here 😂
exactly....that is until their favorite company makes one then it a beloved product and better than all the rest...
The crease is pretty much a non-issue for me, you stop seeing it after a few minutes the first time you use it. Sure I'd take a non-crease phone as an improvement, but the sheer utility of having your phone unfold into a tablet is well worth having the crease. Other phone makers have ditched the crease, so it's only a matter of time until Samsung follows, and most likely Apple when it's their turn.
It's interesting that I keep hearing about how fragile today's folding phones are, but have yet to see anyone offer any sort of proof that this is truly an issue. I get that more moving parts are more prone to failure, that's just common sense, but with official reports of 200k + folds (Samsung's estimate for the ZF3, haven't found estimates for the ZF4 but they did say it was improved, other folding phone makers have said closer to 400k) estimated I think we are in good shape there. Its not like we are seeing an epidemic of broken folding phones, it's virtually a non issue. At the same time folding phones may offer better protection than slab phones in some sense, when the screen is folded closed it's much more protected than a slab phone for example. Edit: Here is the ZF4 fold estimate.
Personally I highly doubt reliability is the issue going against mass consumer adoption, it's more the pricing, although I could see the *perception* of reliability as an issue, especially when word of mouth gets it wrong as in this case. Get these down to $1k and you'll start to see much higher rates of adoption. You have a great setup with a small smartphone and an iPad Pro, no argument there, except for me that setup falls apart when I try to stuff the iPad Pro into my pocket. That's just my personal use case scenario though, we all have combinations which work for us. But personally I don't want to return to the days of putting my tablet between my back and pants, or having to wear cargo pants to maybe be able to carry an iPad mini.
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Yeah ever since multiple lenses came out, I always wondered why the iPhone camera bump stays in one corner which causes the phone to wobble. Why not stretch it across the width of the phone like this Pixel (and I think some Samsungs), which allows it to lie stable?