Google Poaches Top Mobile Chip Designer John Bruno From Apple

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Google has reportedly poached one of Apple's top chip designers, as it continues to pursue plans to design its own chipsets for consumer devices like its Pixel range of smartphones.

    According to The Information, the search giant has hired well-regarded Apple chip expert John Bruno, who has worked on silicon architecture for iPhones since 2012. Before moving offices to Cupertino to help with Apple's ARM-based mobile chip push, Bruno worked at Advanced Micro Devices and led chip design at ATI Technologies.


    Bruno founded and managed Apple's silicon competitive analysis group, which sought to keep the company ahead of competitors in the area of chip performance. He follows several other experienced chip engineers who have defected to Google from Apple over the past year, including Manu Gulati, Wonjae (Gregory) Choi and Tayo Fadelu.

    The hires highlight Google's attempt to keep pace with Apple, which has been designing its own mobile chips since 2010. Recently, Google said it would sell chips known as Cloud Tensor Processing Units (TPU) to other companies so that they could benefit from its deep learning tool set, TensorFlow. However, the recruitment drive is more likely to be aimed at making own-branded chips for Google's Pixel smartphones.

    Indeed, Google's first mobile chip could be right around the corner, according to Jim McGregor, an analyst at Tirias Research who spoke to The Information. With the help of off-the-shelf intellectual property, the Mountain View-based tech giant could have a multifunctional system-on-a-chip up and running in as soon as six months, McGregor said.

    Article Link: Google Poaches Top Mobile Chip Designer John Bruno From Apple
  2. Avieshek Suspended


    Dec 7, 2013
    (Not blaming) In the Tim Cook era, all the talents are flowing out off Apple. ‘M concerned. The only assurance it seems, is Jony Ive not leaving the company.
  3. SwissGuy93 macrumors 6502

    Sep 16, 2016
    This is ridiculous. John Bruno only came to Apple in 2012. So well within the Tim Cook Era. Stop blaming everything on Tim Cook, it's just getting ridiculous. Cook is doing a great job. Is he fault free? No, but neither was Steve. He produced a toxic work environment and was feared. Furthermore, under Steve a lot mistakes happened, too. Just look at the whole mobileMe disaster, the iPhone 4 debacle (not just Antennagate but the proximity censors and bluetooth issues that took 2+ months to solve via an update) and Steve's believe that the iPhone 5 was big enough screen wise and nearly killed apple. Why do you think the iPhone 6 was so late to the game with the bigger screens? Because Steve laid out the roadmap with the iPhone 4s, iPhone 5 and iPhone 5s. Steve was a great visionary, but he also did not get everything right.
  4. MentalFloss macrumors 65816


    Mar 14, 2012
    So this never happened in the Steve Jobs era? And how much great talent has Apple poached from other companies in the last years?

    That Tim Cook hate born out of irrational Steve Jobs nostalgia is getting more bizarre every day.
  5. mazdamiata210 macrumors 6502a

    Sep 28, 2014
    He did leave though, for 2 years to work on the new Apple campus.

    But what he did get right worked beautifully and correctly. Pretty sure it didn't take 3 months to fix a broken calculator. Not because patches didn't take long, but because **** like iOS 7-11 would never have been allowed to roll out the door.
  6. radiology macrumors 6502


    Feb 11, 2014
    Westlake, OH
    This guy is going to a have a great Christmas
  7. iapplelove macrumors 601


    Nov 22, 2011
    East Coast USA
    I’m sure Apple has done their share of poaching as well. This is all part of the game.
  8. pratikindia macrumors 6502


    Apr 7, 2014
    Google pixel already beats iPhones. If google starts building SoC, I am pretty sure that it will trounce Apple AXX chips.

    Now the test shows that pixel has the fastest LTE speed in US and iPhone X has the slowest. Apple is slowing down everything and calling its a "feature". Hopeless Tim Cook
  9. mazdamiata210, Dec 23, 2017
    Last edited: Dec 23, 2017

    mazdamiata210 macrumors 6502a

    Sep 28, 2014

    Edit: Just to add to this, I had a X and returned it... Bought the 5T and I love it! Highly recommend if someone is looking to make the switch to Android.
  10. blackcrayon macrumors 68000

    Mar 10, 2003
    So the Pixel "already beats iPhones", but in the same post you admit its SoC is no match for the iPhone's SoC.
    Maybe you meant to say "it's better in some ways and not as good in others?" Sounds like amazing news...
  11. Naraxus macrumors 6502a


    Oct 13, 2016
    If only this were true....
  12. thelookingglass macrumors 68000

    Apr 27, 2005
    Amen. Glad someone took the time to say say this. Lots of armchair quarterbacking here. Apple as a company is so much more well rounded than it’s ever been. Tim has really taken apple to the next level in terms of what such a massive company with such a large influence worldwide should be doing.
  13. 06tb06 macrumors regular


    Sep 12, 2017
    2,711 miles from Apple Campus
    Haven't heard that name in a while. I remember reading about him back in the ATI days. He is one of three engineers that I know of that's worked for both Apple and AMD, the other two being Raja Koduri and Jim Keller.

    Now all three work at different companies.
  14. nt5672, Dec 23, 2017
    Last edited: Dec 23, 2017

    nt5672 macrumors 68000

    Jun 30, 2007
    And that is a good description of the difference. People had to perform under Jobs or they were disciplined. Under Cook, it seems that there is no downside for poor performance. Hence we see a lot more of it.

    There are a few good engineers at Apple, but a lot of people that just enjoy the ability to bully Apple customers. For example, removing software functionality because it easier than making it work or updating it. Cook appears to have no idea about product strategy (particularly software) and has not shown any innovation, only predictable but late incremental improvements.

    Apple products are all over the place with example of not even being able to use Apple products with other Apple products. For example new iMac's with fusion drives won't work with High Sierra. Who releases new OS software that does not work with your flagship product. No one except Cook's organization. I doubt he even knows about it.
  15. iReality85 macrumors 6502a

    Apr 29, 2008
    Upstate NY
    ‘Tis the season to be poaching, fa-la la la lahh, la-la la lahhh!
  16. B4U macrumors 68000


    Oct 11, 2012
    Undisclosed location
    Forstall needs to come back though.
  17. bjoswald macrumors regular


    Jul 21, 2016
    It is a very messy month for Apple. Software glitches, low adoption for their latest (overpriced) flagship, and now talent-poaching high-level engineers from competitors. I really hope Apple has a strong plan going forward.
  18. Stella macrumors G3


    Apr 21, 2003
    People jump around companies all the time. People should do what's best for themselves.

    Good luck in your new position!
  19. ToroidalZeus macrumors 68020


    Dec 8, 2009
    Don't forget all the talent that left Apple for Tesla too.

    It's obvious there is a lack of vision at Apple and everyone in the know is bailing.
  20. nviz22 macrumors 601


    Jun 24, 2013
    Google should start making its own processors. Shouldn’t have to rely on the Snapdragon series.
  21. now i see it macrumors 68020

    Jan 2, 2002
    AMD, ATI, Apple, Google... Does anyone really think he'll still be at Google 5 years from now?
  22. newyorksole macrumors 68040

    Apr 2, 2008
    New York.
    How does that even sound? Lol if anything they have MORE of a vision now. They have invested in so many different technologies and have much more of a variety of products now than before.

    The company was not perfect under Steve Jobs and it isn’t perfect now, but they’re still doing a great job.

    People have been jumping Apple’s ship since before the iPhone. They just want something new. It happens.

    AirPods are fantastic, Apple Music has improved, iPhone X (despite what anyone says) is a great phone and so are the 8 & 8 Plus. iMac Pro has received great reviews, HomePod is coming, the iPad lineup is solid... Etc.
  23. ToroidalZeus macrumors 68020


    Dec 8, 2009

  24. makingdots macrumors 6502

    Aug 14, 2008
    No way he's NOT partly involved or didn't get a say regarding design of Apple products before they release it. He's not just fully in-control.
  25. supercoolmanchu macrumors regular


    Mar 5, 2012
    Hilarious! And you were the only one here to check the guy’s track record.

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