Google Previews Chrome OS, Scheduled for Release in Late 2010

[*LTD*]

Honestly, your opinions and sources mean about this much _

So many of you can't even bother to open you mind a fraction of an inch to look at the potential. Guarantee you Apple will look into something like this or has something like this for there Netbook. Oh yeah and if Apple releases it LTD will praise it as the second coming.

MobileMe and Cloud computing, and whatever Apple has in store for us in this regard. No doubt Apple already has Google figured out, like they've got the entire industry figured out. If Apple releases their own, it'll wipe the floor with whatever else is in that segment.

And it's not going to be a "netbook." Apple doesn't do low end.

 

[ZedRuhlen]

It won't succeed. The whole reason there is a PC market is so that people could cut the ties from mainframes and have local control over their system including (and especially) locally held software and storage.

MAINFRAMES ARE GLACIALLY SLOW. Yes, even google and the internet. Try launching a major program over the internet and you'll understand.

Mainframes crash. Yup, there goes your thesis.

Mainframes take away your power. People HATE that.

How many times do companies try to resell us this pile of dung? Didn't they attempt this in the 90s, too? We have dumb terminals at work and EVERYONE hates them.

Not even Google can pass off this turd.

 

[bunty]

Think of all the hard drive boxes that will have to be re-designed to say their compatible with Windows, Mac OS X and now Google.

(but what about Ubuntu?)

 

[Eric S.]

This could be a game changer.

Think about it, the cloud, online office and apps...

I'm just saying.

Just another way for Google to get you and your data by the balls.

Google has replaced Microsoft at the head of the dark side.

 

[bobertoq]

Honestly, your opinions and sources mean about this much _

So many of you can't even bother to open you mind a fraction of an inch to look at the potential. Guarantee you Apple will look into something like this or has something like this for there Netbook. Oh yeah and if Apple releases it LTD will praise it as the second coming.

My God there is someone with some sense on these boards!!!

 

[bobertoq]

It won't succeed. The whole reason there is a PC market is so that people could cut the ties from mainframes and have local control over their system including (and especially) locally held software and storage.

MAINFRAMES ARE GLACIALLY SLOW. Yes, even google and the internet. Try launching a major program over the internet and you'll understand.

Mainframes crash. Yup, there goes your thesis.

Mainframes take away your power. People HATE that.

How many times do companies try to resell us this pile of dung? Didn't they attempt this in the 90s, too? We have dumb terminals at work and EVERYONE hates them.

Not even Google can pass off this turd.

Yeah look at how crappy Gmail is!! It's so slow no one even uses it! Then there is YouTube... Does anyone even use that piece of junk?

edit
sorry for the double post :O

 

[macsmurf]

It won't succeed. The whole reason there is a PC market is so that people could cut the ties from mainframes and have local control over their system including (and especially) locally held software and storage.

MAINFRAMES ARE GLACIALLY SLOW. Yes, even google and the internet. Try launching a major program over the internet and you'll understand.

Mainframes crash. Yup, there goes your thesis.

Mainframes take away your power. People HATE that.

How many times do companies try to resell us this pile of dung? Didn't they attempt this in the 90s, too? We have dumb terminals at work and EVERYONE hates them.

Not even Google can pass off this turd.

The trend in all the major browsers is to make JavaScript run really really fast. Why do you think that is?

 

[miketcool]

To me they kinda look similar...

Awww Snap! Someone contact 3M! People are associating folders with iconic looking folders!

 

[djgamble]

*yaaaaaaaaawn* its been done SOOOO MANY times!!!
Web PC's Web Books...etc

The video to me contradicts itself because I don't think Chrome is revolutionary or all that fast. It's just Safari with a new GUI.

 

[beatybeaty]

The trend in all the major browsers is to make JavaScript run really really fast. Why do you think that is?

Because it's a trend.

Javascript wasn't designed to, nor can it ever, power an "OS". It will only support browsers with client-side logic.

Remember server-side Javascript circa 12 years ago? Yeah.

 

[MorphingDragon]

Just another way for Google to get you and your data by the balls.

Google has replaced Microsoft at the head of the dark side.

With the exception that Google farts out 10x more innovation than Microsoft.

 

[macsmurf]

Because it's a trend.

Javascript wasn't designed to, nor can it ever, power an "OS". It will only support browsers with client-side logic.

Remember server-side Javascript circa 12 years ago? Yeah.

Not really. JavaScript has never been a serverside technology. However, JavaScript can be used to power web-applications and all the major software companies believe that we will see more of this in the future. Some companies like Microsoft, Sun, and Adobe try to push technologies other than JavaScript but it all boils down to a belief in the viability of rich internet applications AKA RIAs.

 

[beatybeaty]

One day at Google...

I think the conversation at Google must have gone something like this:

- Google Search Boss: "We're doing awesome, making tons of money from our core business: Search. Good news! We can still afford to work on other non-revenue, experimental products!"

- Larry & Sergei: "Cool. I just got back from Burning Man and I'm bored. I know, let's make an OS!"

- CEO Eric Schmidt: "Brilliant! That will really tick off Microsoft and make them pee a little in reactionary fear... Ballmer will lose his mind! I love it! Where's my iPhone? I need to call that Fake Steve Jobs blogger guy. He cracks me up..."

- Freshly-Out-Of-College Google Employee 352789: "Cool, I built a web-based OS in college! Haven't touched it since, though. I'll spend 400% of my 20%-time-to-work-on-my-own-cool-stuff and build it again but this time with HTML5! That'll totally ROCK! Oooo shiny..."

- Google Products Boss: "Great, we need some other market to take over, anyway. Especially since Orkut and Picasa have firmly taken the crown away from Facebook and Flickr and Google Docs has taken all the market share away from MS Office!" *nervous glance at Larry & Sergei*

- Larry & Sergei: "Cool. I need to post my videos and pictures from Burning Man on Flickr. Especially that hilarious one of Eric tripping out. Where's my MacBook Pro? Nevermind, I'll just upload it from my iPhone since it is already on there."

- Google Search Boss: "So, guys... Guys? Yeah, so we're still doing awesome, making tons of money from our core business: Search. Wait, we're building an OS? Huh? Why?"

- Larry & Sergei: "Cool. Let's go play Modern Warfare 2 on the Shark Tank's Jumbotron again."

 

[beatybeaty]

Actually...

Not really. JavaScript has never been a server sider technology. However, JavaScript can be used to power web-applications and all the major software companies believe that we will see more of this in the future. Some companies like Microsoft, Sun, and Adobe try to push technologies other than JavaScript but it all boils down to a belief in the viability of rich internet applications AKA RIAs.

Hate to say I told you so, but:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server-side_JavaScript

I actually used it on a Netscape server many years ago when there was such a thing. It sucked.

RIAs don't equal an OS. Unless, of course, you are able to write a bootloader, camera driver, wifi driver, and other core OS functionality like that in Javascript and compile it down to bytecode. Won't happen. I think you are mistaking Javascript as the language that an OS will actually be written in. I disagree. I believe it will stay in the browser where it belongs, since it is fairly lightweight, and, consequently, on top of the OS. But that means it won't be an "OS", it will stay in the "browser". That is all I'm saying. RIAs are browser-based, not OS-based. Javascript performance is great for RIAs and surfing and all the CPU-intensive Flash-based ads they throw at us these days in our browser. But it ain't gonna power an OS.

 

[cmfilms]

They had me interested right up to the last word. "Anyways" is not a word. It makes the guy sound stupid.

 

[macsmurf]

Hate to say I told you so, but:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server-side_JavaScript

I actually used it on a Netscape server many years ago when there was such a thing. It sucked.

Interesting. I didn't know that. I fail to see the relevance, though.

RIAs don't equal an OS. Unless, of course, you are able to write a bootloader, camera driver, wifi driver, and other core OS functionality like that in Javascript and compile it down to bytecode. Won't happen.

Why would you want to? Do you think that is what Google is trying to do?

I think you are mistaking Javascript as the language that an OS will actually be written in. I disagree.

I'm not really sure how you would get such an idea.

I believe it will stay in the browser where it belongs, since it is fairly lightweight, and, consequently, on top of the OS. But that means it won't be an "OS", it will stay in the "browser". That is all I'm saying. RIAs are browser-based, not OS-based. Javascript performance is great for RIAs and surfing and all the CPU-intensive Flash-based ads they throw at us these days in our browser. But it ain't gonna power an OS.

Of course not. By the way, flash runs on the Adobe VM which is a different technology than the engine running Javascript. The approach in Chromium OS seems to be to make a very lightweight OS (I would guess using C/C++) and then treat all apps as RIAs. The JavaScript VM in Chrome and no doubt Chromium OS is called V8 and is written in C++.

 

[*LTD*]

I think the conversation at Google must have gone something like this:

- Google Search Boss: "We're doing awesome, making tons of money from our core business: Search. Good news! We can still afford to work on other non-revenue, experimental products!"

- Larry & Sergei: "Cool. I just got back from Burning Man and I'm bored. I know, let's make an OS!"

- CEO Eric Schmidt: "Brilliant! That will really tick off Microsoft and make them pee a little in reactionary fear... Ballmer will lose his mind! I love it! Where's my iPhone? I need to call that Fake Steve Jobs blogger guy. He cracks me up..."

- Freshly-Out-Of-College Google Employee 352789: "Cool, I built a web-based OS in college! Haven't touched it since, though. I'll spend 400% of my 20%-time-to-work-on-my-own-cool-stuff and build it again but this time with HTML5! That'll totally ROCK! Oooo shiny..."

- Google Products Boss: "Great, we need some other market to take over, anyway. Especially since Orkut and Picasa have firmly taken the crown away from Facebook and Flickr and Google Docs has taken all the market share away from MS Office!" *nervous glance at Larry & Sergei*

- Larry & Sergei: "Cool. I need to post my videos and pictures from Burning Man on Flickr. Especially that hilarious one of Eric tripping out. Where's my MacBook Pro? Nevermind, I'll just upload it from my iPhone since it is already on there."

- Google Search Boss: "So, guys... Guys? Yeah, so we're still doing awesome, making tons of money from our core business: Search. Wait, we're building an OS? Huh? Why?"

- Larry & Sergei: "Cool. Let's go play Modern Warfare 2 on the Shark Tank's Jumbotron again."

Priceless!

 

[vvebsta]

i could see if working if it worked like bootcamp or something where i could just hold down a key during booting up

might be a nice time saver on my macbook pro

 

[RiverFox]

Chrome OS = Epic Yawn

 

[OneMike]

I could see it working on very low end netbooks, but if it does not improve greatly before release I can't see it harming anyones market share.

I think otherwise.

I could see this being very very big

Market I see this for is the people that don't do anything except surf the web, watch youtube, listen to music, and check email. I'd bet that's a very large % of the population.

 

[frenchroast]

I think it's a great idea. The best way to implement it would be to have a Google Chrome OS button on the computer. If you need to do web stuff, push it on and you are on the web in a few seconds. If you need to work with some programs, boot up your regular OS.

 

[iVoid]

This reminds me of the IPhone when it first came out: "You can just use WebApps for everything you need"

And I'd never trust an OS from a company that is primarily in the business of collecting marketing information from it's users.

 

[cumanzor]

LOL, have you been actually reading about what has been going on with Google and books as well?

In your comments you are trying to disassociate "spying" & "knowing what you're doing" from serving you ads. That is a ridiculous statement. Information is the most important commodity in this world along with natural resources. You can't possibly say you know 100% what Google is doing with all this info because they never let anyone know. You are essentially espousing what a Google spokesperson would say.

Now if you feel OK with one company gathering all this kind of info about you in exchange for free stuff then go have fun. The funny thing is you would be alarmed if it was the gov't (who can actually say that it is for the safety of the country) who had this power but not a corporation whose sole reason to exist is to make more cash under any circumstances.

HA HA HA OH WOW.

1. Information is not on par with natural resources. I have no idea where you would bring this from.
2. Oh how cute, you think Google is the only company harvesting information out there. Think back, every single company does it. The only reason why Facebook and Twitter is so successful is because they made a fortune out of your information.
3. Even so, you paint a picture where these companies take your personal information and sell them to someone else. That is not the case. They take trends, they sell those trends, it works. It is virtually impossible for X to get YOUR specific information.
4. About the government: great straw man argument.

 

[Stately]

Uhhh . . nice try Google, but no thank you.

 

[deus_ex_machina]

not surprised by all the criticism here. refer to page 1 for my original post.

i think too many people are missing the point of this OS. i think too many people are being too close minded to its true potential.

i'm not going to sit here and try to even guess at what percentage of people use the internet for what percentage of their normal computer use. i will say that a vast majority of the people i know that own computers 1) don't demand from their computers enough to justify the knowledge of an OS that today's OSes require from most users. 2) if their internet is down, they'll not be at their computer anyway. 3) have never bought and installed software that didn't already come on the machine (refer to point 1). and 4) they wouldn't know the difference between the picture they just transferred from their dig camera being stored locally or on a "cloud" (as long as it's appears in FB or Flicker for their friends/family to see they're happy).

the biggest thing i think people are missing here is that there already are several markets that this type of OS would be extremely successful. there are quite a few on here that are questioning whether google is trying to create market for this OS that isn't there.

first and foremost EDUCATION!!!
imagine how many thousands of schools with tens even hundreds of thousands (certainly millions) of computers are out there. one of the biggest expenses in school systems is IT. google's OS would work perfect on an INTRANET (vs an Internet).

it would require a lot less resources to support and maintain as the current Windows OS (and Apple OS) do. virus protection would be less of an issue because each machine would be void of a traditional OS and data to be hacked, and virus protection for data would be done at the cloud level in "one" location, making it more efficient, and reliable.

security of data and hardware would also be easier to handle as the theft of a computer from a school would serve the criminal little to no advantage. there would be no data on the machine to farm. if they google os was in firmware, and only able to run google os, then if stolen they would be of no use to someone unless connected to the internet. the second someone did do that, the machine could be easily traced and the thief caught.

the hardware would be much cheaper too, because it could be stripped of all the things that are only needed to be able to run the sometimes bulky OSes that are installed now.

sure there would still be some departments that would require a traditional desktop for power computing, but that's not what google os is aiming for.

you could also apply the same arguments above to business. i work in a government agency that is currently working on replacing ALL of our machines with terminals. all apps, data, and computing would be done by servers. all that would be at our desks would be a little black box to connect peripherals and a monitor. ie Cloud Computing. so as you can see the market is already there. google os just needs to find its footing and i think it'll be a hit.

Speaking in real terms, that's ALOT of change to infrastructure and workstations for school systems, especially public ones which rely heavily on bonds and partnerships with HP/Dell/Apple.

The only part of that could work would be the laptops for the children to work on their exercises, which half are on the web.

Everything else would require massive upgrades to networking infrastructure to accomodate the bandwidth. Most workstations have large programs rich with media that needs to be local or streamed from a central server to use. If you were to convert over to Chrome, the strain will now solely rest on the server.

But this isn't for everyone