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Industry pushed 3D TV, some adopted and embraced it, most did not care. In the end the majority won as it did not add value to the consumer and only the industry stood to gain. We are seeing the same thing with phones and mobile OS.

3D TV died, but it wasn’t a waste of time or resources. It helped in the creation of 4K TV. 3D TV doubled the pixels on the horizontal, just not the vertical.
 
The above is irrelevant to the comment you quoted.
None of the above was ever alluded to.
You should of just straight posted your own comment instead of the quoting.
Secondly, who are you to say what a user needs?
Do you have data to back up that claim?
You can try and use 3DTV adoption as a data point to substatiate all the claims you make in the above, but one has nothing to do with the other.
Unless you have something to back up your chatter, it’s just noise.

How do you know those devices cannot run never version of AndroidOS, maybe the manufacturer does not have an incentive to do so due to cost, or whatever reason. You cannot simply claim planned obsolescence just because the manufacturer has opted not to do so, these companies have so many models available in so many markets and competing with other AndroidOS devices. After their sell you the device there is not much incentive to continue support long term, similar to an appliance after a year the customer is on their own unless their opt for extended warranties. 3rd party manufacturers do no control the PlayStore, their make money off hardware not software or services, unlike Apple and Google.

You are on a public forum right, and do you have any data to backup your claims, if not it is all noise.
 
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Also the "holding it wrong" thing happened over 8 years go. Get over it. Samsung wasn't even making real smartphones way back then.

Not defending anyone or taking sides, however I hear the battery explosion From time to time, that occurred over 2 years ago. Get over it, Samsung at least admitted it and discontinued sales. Apple just provided a free bumper for a short window and admitted nothing.
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3D TV died, but it wasn’t a waste of time or resources. It helped in the creation of 4K TV. 3D TV doubled the pixels on the horizontal, just not the vertical.

NHK researchers built a UHDTV prototype which they demonstrated in 2003, I don’t believe 3DTV had anything to do with it, may have contributed however its hard to say for sure. Unless you have some information I am unaware of, that would be helpful. :)

As early as 2013, 3D televisions were being seen as a fad. DirecTV had stopped broadcasting 3D programs in 2012, while ESPN stopped in 2013. In the UK, Sky moved its content to on demand.

Fewer and fewer 3D TVs were sold and soon TV manufactures stopped making them. Vizio stopped production in 2014 and was followed by others. In January 2017, the last two major television manufacturers still producing 3D televisions, Sony and LG, announced they would stop all 3D support.

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imagine iPhone X wont receive iOS 12 update. It will be world war.

What is amusing about this is that most developers do not even harness the power of the “A#” processors. Some games and apps, however most not so. Many apps have not even incorporated FaceID or designed for the notch. The power contained even in an iPhone 7 is overkill for what most users do daily with their phones.
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Nope. I'm seeing 93% of USERS are on iOS 11. Not usage.

Interesting.
 
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Yeah except my mothers phone running Android 5 can still run pretty much any App on Google Play. Can iOS 5 run 90% of the App Store?

This whole dig against Android is pointless unless you're obsessed with always having the latest and greatest. Older versions of Android are still good and completely usable. Probably more usable than older versions of iOS.
Useable, but vulnerable.
 
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Not everyone needs or wants the “latest and greatest” version of the os. Apple should take a cue and not prompt me each and every night to update FFS.
 
I see some major similarities between the iOS and android 9. Swipe up gesture, Android version of the iOS 12's "screen time" feature.
Android's ‘version’ of the iOS screen time feature was announced first.
 
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My question is: can you still run 32 bit apps in Pie?
[doublepost=1533611468][/doublepost]I'm still running iOS 10 on my 7+ for speed and 32 bit app support.
 
Well my S7 is on it's third full OS update since I purchased it, so about the same as my iPhone 7. It's all very good getting updates for around 4 years with the iPhone (or any other phone for that matter) but the weak spot in this scenario is the battery. The batteries in both my S7 and my iPhone 7 are now showing signs of tiredness, yet it's not economic to replace them in either model.
third?

It launched with marshmallow and has been updated first to nougat and then to Oreo. It’s not getting android P so it’s had 2 major OS updates.

Your S7 will get security updates until next year but no more OS updates. So that’s 2 years of OS updates and 3 years of the security update. Your iPhone 7 will get 5 years of OS updates.
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You are correct in that Android is like Windows OS. Security is an afterthought and viruses run rampant on these platforms. That alone should get folks rallying together to force Google to do more. When your phone needs and Antivirus application and you have to be cautious when downloading apps in the Play Store, Google is doing something wrong. We need updates and getting them frequently is never a bad thing.
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Oops, I meant iPhone 5s. 5 years ago.
I agree that malicious apps are more of a problem on android. However google are doing something to try and combat this, namely by issuing monthly security updates and the google play protect feature which scans every app you install on the playstore before it’s installed.
 
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You keep finding issues to hate with iOS while defending the fact that most brand new Android phones will never be eligible to get an OS update. They're obsolete from the day you buy them.
Incredibly inaccurate. I used iPhones for 4 years and my first Android phone is the one I currently have which is the S8. I have found the Android system is more than an equal to iOS.
I have no dislike for iOS and appreciate its integration with macOS which is clearly beneficial to me being a Mac user. It is for this reason I shall be moving back to an iPhone once my phone upgrade is due with my Network Provider in 2019. For the mean time however I am more than satisfied with the S8.
 
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This really works in favour of Android users and the developer community. By the time someone getting the upgrade, it would have been tested by a large number of customers across regions and many of the critical issues world have been addressed. Also, there is absolutely no need to upgrade to higher versions which are optimised for different set of hardware needs. Of late, users do not get to see great differences in OS upgrades. If big names provide three years security patches and minor tweaks and enhancements, it is enough IMO
 
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Then don't upgrade. No one forces you to do so.

Planned obsolescence is an absolute joke. It's simply the fact that each new OS version (not just of iOS but Windows, Linux, and every other operating system out there) generally requires more resources. Those put a larger tax on the processor, RAM, etc. That's what slows things down. Not this tinfoil hat no-proof planned obsolescence.

You keep finding issues to hate with iOS while defending the fact that most brand new Android phones will never be eligible to get an OS update. They're obsolete from the day you buy them.
Midrange and budget phones may not get updated, but you get what you pay for afterall. All android flagship phones will get at least 2 years if OS updates and 3 years ot security updates.
 
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3D TV died, but it wasn’t a waste of time or resources. It helped in the creation of 4K TV. 3D TV doubled the pixels on the horizontal, just not the vertical.

Umm, what? The 4k spec had been around for years before 3D TVs were released. 4k would have happened without 3d.
 
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I can do more work and other miscellaneous stuff on Lollipop than iOS 11 and any other version of iOS......dont care what yall say but this is true.
 
Internals are frequently upgraded as Android is very modular. It doesn't require a "whole OS" upgrade. So one could technically be running an older build of Android per se, but with latest internals.
Nope, all new security features, privacy features & all the new API has to be updated with "whole OS". So you might get new apps or some new components but still runs on same APIs & might take advantage of old privacy permission model on Android the same way
 
12% is alot more phones than those charts look.

Google just announced that there is 2 billion active android users a month.

So 12% of those is 240m phones running oreo
 
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The swiping feature may confuse allot of users. People accidentally not knowing they need to fully swipe to view all apps.

But allot of these is what iOS has.. "Wind Down" sounds like Bedtime on iOS.
 
I wonder does Android force you to update with constant reminders or messages telling you the update will be installed later tonight or when you are connected to a power source?
 
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Planned obsolescence is an absolute joke. It's simply the fact that each new OS version (not just of iOS but Windows, Linux, and every other operating system out there) generally requires more resources. Those put a larger tax on the processor, RAM, etc. That's what slows things down. Not this tinfoil hat no-proof planned obsolescence.
How is what you're describing not planned obsolescence? The original iPhone had CPU and RAM* capable of powering the most common app usages of modern iPhones. Why should we need way more resources to do the same tasks as before?

*Not including GPU here cause it's a different story.
 
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I love seeing the graphs of users using the newest version of Android compared to iOS. Just shows how Apple is better at delivering their software and making it clear to update. Plus supporting their phones for so many years. This is why I'm always going to be sticking with iOS.

Also is it just me or does this just look like an Android version of iOS?... Then again it's not like iOS has it's own original features lol.
 
Yes with Linux you never have to update pretty much if you don't want to. No red flags popping up every other day. Android updates are pretty hassle free as well.
LinuxMint maybe. My experience with Ubuntu Desktop has been that it downloads updates even when I thought I turned that feature off. I normally use Ubuntu Server but was afraid to do so on my (secondary) laptop.

Btw, I often leave my iOS out of date slightly so I can let other users test the new ones first. The notifications aren't that annoying. It asks me once a week or something. The actual thing that sucks is it sometimes fills my remaining free space with an auto-downloaded update, which utterly retarded (literally it slows down my phone) because it's not like I'm going to update on the go.
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Not to mention that the Google Apps have been split out from the OS and are available in the Play Store. So you can also be running an older OS, but essentially be up to date that way. The 12% number is incredibly misleading since it isn't an Apples to Apples comparison (see what I did there?)
It's not misleading, just a statement. The updates matter in Android too, as they do in other Linux-based OSs. You don't really know whether you've got all the security patches if you aren't up to date.
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Is it just me, or does Google give Android versions these stupid codenames so as to mask just how much behind their installed base is?
It's to mask how out of touch with humans they are.
 
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