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Google 'Supercharging Android' With Acquisition of Motorola Mobility
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I wish they are willing to support their hardware from now on, unlike Motorola who abandons models.
It is one thing Apple is also doing, moving too fast and leaving loyal customers in the dark with upgrades.
I wish they are willing to support their hardware from now on, unlike Motorola who abandons models.
It is one thing Apple is also doing, moving too fast and leaving loyal customers in the dark with upgrades.
Yes it will be worth it for them to bother, do they have ANY other recourse? Mobile market is becoming a 2 boat race (APPLE VS GOOGLE) and if you not on one of thoses horses, your sinking. The only boat you can ride is the GOOGLE one.
Why Cant you do both successfully?
I wouldn't bet on Microsoft surviving or Nokia.
Last quarter Nokia sold more phones in just the USA, a market that it does terribly in, than the entire worldwide market for Windows Phone 7.
Nokia and Microsoft have a lot riding on Windows Phone 'Mango'.
Personally, I'm hoping they fail miserably and Nokia get back to the N9 and Swipe UI as their future smartphone platform.
As a matter of fact, yes, Google has already made exactly that promise.
The Android source code is provided under the Apache Software License 2.0. This license specifically states that any patents owned by any individuals or corporations which have made 3rd-party contributions to the Apache-licensed portions of the Andorid source base, as well as any patents owned by the Copyright holder itself (Google in this case), which are necessary to making use of the software package, are freely licensed to everybody who receives a copy of the Apache-licensed Android software.
Any receiver of the Android software, or contributor to the Apache source code, who then in turn, raises a patent lawsuit against Google or any other entity, alleging that Google's software is violating any of that litigant's existing patents, will automatically lose their permission to use all Google-provided and other 3rd-party-contributor-provided patents that would otherwise have been granted to them by the Android license.
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Wow....Google puts a 12 billion dollar ring on Motorola's finger and still wants to sleep with Sansung, LG, HTC and countless others? Google is a whore...At least Apple has the mind set to stay single and screw everyone else....
In any event, I cant believe Google is still attacking others like Apple and Microsoft for buying patents when they were trying to buy the same patents AND just bought Motorola for the sake of owning 17000 patents. I think this is the ol' "pot calling the kettle black"...
In any event, I cant believe Google is still attacking others like Apple and Microsoft for buying patents when they were trying to buy the same patents AND just bought Motorola for the sake of owning 17000 patents. I think this is the ol' "pot calling the kettle black"...
Old school, outdated patent law is what lead to the "broadness" of patents.
Most patents are not simple or basic, but are too broad in scope. Moreover, some things shouldn't be allowed to have a patent - such as software design methodology, generic or geometric shapes, button locations, etc., etc..
Patents need to be narrowly defined, otherwise, when you invent some new technology but have to house it in a proven ergonomic shape, you'll get sued for infringement of being to similar to the "patented" shape. Something which is happening in some of today's patent lawsuits. Why should a company waste time on R&D on things so basic or have to license something so basic? Worse, there are those who buy up patent portfolios just for the sake of profiting from lawsuits scribed by clever lawyers who exploit the broadness of patents.
It's a patent minefield. How can that possibly aid in innovation? You have to waste valuable resources and time to research all the many similar broadly defined patents in hopes of not infringing or to offer a few holders licensing terms only to learn later on that you missed a few or didn't anticipate just how clever a patent troll's legal team would be.
The only innovation the current patent system fosters is innovative ways to protect oneself from patent trolling. Something which you witnessed in today's news item.
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This is great news! Hopefully Android will finally be a bit more singular with a hardware company in the primary development mix. If they can do that Apple will go back on the offense and innovate more versus defensively make minor changes and upgrades. It is a total win for the consumer today. Though I'm still a total Apple fan.
This is great news! Hopefully Android will finally be a bit more singular with a hardware company in the primary development mix. If they can do that Apple will go back on the offense and innovate more versus defensively make minor changes and upgrades. It is a total win for the consumer today. Though I'm still a total Apple fan.
Apple invented the PDA, this is just a logical evolution. What patents do you believe Apple stole? The bought the company that had the capacitative touch patents. The already had many patents of their own. The suit between them and Nokia was based on Nokia undervaluing Apples patents in trade, not on any patent stealing done by Apple.
So name one patent (by number would be nice) that Apple stole. Oh thats right, you can't.
Google has 40 billion cash on hand. If they are paying 70% premium over the market cap as in the case for Motorola, HTC would cost Google about all of its cash reserve.
Again, the main goal for the acquisition is patents, not smartphone market share.
Seriously, is that necessary?
Uh huh, in order to favorably compete against Apple and Microsoft. So in a way, the "stupid fanboys" are at least half correct, no?
Gasp! So it is Apple versus Android in the end. (And Microsoft too.) Gosh darn those "stupid fanboys" got it right.
Heard the Brooklyn bridge was on sale for a $1 today. Hurry while supplies last!
. J/K. Google has to say that and attempt to make it appear that way so that the FTC doesn't outright block the sale. But there's no way Google will live up to it and will find a way, of course, to favor Motorola. The EU will likely hit them with an antitrust suit within five years. Yes, it's also about the patents.
Who's to say Motorola would have agreed to that ? It still can be pretty much all about the 17,000 patents and HTC and Samsung can be very happy they now have a license to those patents from their software vendor.
In 1986, Psion released the Organizer II. And in 1991, Psion Series 3 which had a full keyboard.
Now - the TERM PDA was "coined" by Apple according to online references in 1992 at the CES show by Sculley in reference to the Newton.
IF you want to be accurate.
Planet Earth?
See Apple Newton, "the first Personal Digital Assistant" in 1993.
Seems you're the alien one.
17,000 all relating to the opening and closing of a flip phone
Plus 7,500 pending.
See above.
Even funnier are people thinking that just because Google buys Motorola they OWN the patents Motorola did. It really all depends on what the agreement is.
IE - My company bought another company and while we have access to IP and patents - we don't legally OWN them. They are still retained by the original company/individuals.
A lot of these patents aren't really about hardware.
For example, most of the "Capacitive touch" patents everybody likes to tout, don't actually deal with the hardware processes involved in capacitive touch sensitivity at all. For the most part, they deal with signal processing that occurs later, totally in software and effectively independent of the hardware process that was used to detect the touch in the first place.
There is no single company anywhere in the world that has an absolute monopoly on the intellectual property related to the hardware of capacitive touch sensitivity.
GoogleTV has already been resurrected with the $99 price. The honeycomb update will be beneficial too. You make a good point that GTV could be added to other motorola products too. Another win for google.