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Firing Tim Cook would be almost as idiotic as it was to fire Steve back in the day. Just because a companies record breaking quarters dont continue doesn't mean you ******* one of the most successful CEO's in the history of the industry. When Apple is being beat by dell, hp, and Asus people can get upset.

When Apple is being beat by DELL, HP, Asus it will be way too late to get upset.
 
Once they bring back the 17" MBP as a retina model, world domination!!!

Now is the time to release it apple!
 
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I saw this posted on hacker news...

Does Apple do research in biotech (Alphabet's Calico)? Are they developing drones delivering wireless internet to the world (Google's Skybender)? Do they have an investment arm (Google Ventures)? Did they start an ISP (Google Fiber)?

People see Alphabet's increasing outreach that almost seems ludicrous. Then they compare this with Apple who seems to have been doing iPhones and iPads for 6-10 years, and doesn't seem to be interested in anything else (though this is slowly changing with Apple apparently getting into home automation and self-driving vehicles). It doesn't matter if it is true or not. This is what people perceive. This is what make them value Google more than Apple. For all we know smartphones and tablets could be disrupted by another technology (the same way PCs were disrupted by phones and tablets) and Apple may not be ready for this next tech disruption, while Google is placing bets in many other markets.
 
That will change when new watchbands, Watch 1.5S and a gold pencil are revealed in March.

The gold pencil... I'm betting a starting price of $500. It will be Apple gold which is a custom alloy created to decrease the likelihood of fingerprints and associated hand oils from staining the pencil's pristine look. Kinda like a hammer with obvious signs of wear, Apple doesn't want the pencil to ever look like it's been actually used.
 
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Microsoft, Google, IBM and others have made strong headway into the OSS software world. That doesn't go un-noticed. When the hacker-news community starts writing that they are looking for alternatives to OSX, my eyes perked up. Open innovation and lack of wall gardens are the future. Developers will drive the next wave of devices...

Developers will develop for whatever platform offers them the most money. That is and will for the foreseeable future be Apple's iOS as well as Windows, OS X, and Android. Developers make our gadgets do amazing things but they don't have the power to change the devices we use without having a very powerful hardware and software company working with them.
 
I saw this posted on hacker news...

Does Apple do research in biotech (Alphabet's Calico)? Are they developing drones delivering wireless internet to the world (Google's Skybender)? Do they have an investment arm (Google Ventures)? Did they start an ISP (Google Fiber)?

People see Alphabet's increasing outreach that almost seems ludicrous. Then they compare this with Apple who seems to have been doing iPhones and iPads for 6-10 years, and doesn't seem to be interested in anything else (though this is slowly changing with Apple apparently getting into home automation and self-driving vehicles). It doesn't matter if it is true or not. This is what people perceive. This is what make them value Google more than Apple. For all we know smartphones and tablets could be disrupted by another technology (the same way PCs were disrupted by phones and tablets) and Apple may not be ready for this next tech disruption, while Google is placing bets in many other markets.

I don't think wireless or ISP ventures will provide Google the massive returns that Apple requires. Remember, this is still Apple after all. The same company that continues to use HDD in computers that are definitely not budget systems.
 
Developers will develop for whatever platform offers them the most money. That is and will for the foreseeable future be Apple's iOS as well as Windows, OS X, and Android. Developers make our gadgets do amazing things but they don't have the power to change the devices we use without having a very powerful hardware and software company working with them.

If that was the case, most developers would use Java/C# for enterprise apps and call it a day. The fact is Apple presented something completely different and devs flocked. That something is losing it's shine. Disruptions will come, and developers will flock. Can Apple disrupt again? I don't know as they are a walled garden and not very openly innovative. Other companies have embraced openness which many developers care deeply about. Mindshare is not driven solely by money.
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I don't think wireless or ISP ventures will provide Google the massive returns that Apple requires. Remember, this is still Apple after all. The same company that continues to use HDD in computers that are definitely not budget systems.

Maybe not, but those are innovative and disrupting. If Apple came out with a modular hackable laptop/tablet, people would send the stock to the moon. That is disruption and openness. If they tore down just a bit of the walled garden, people would reward them. Instead we have secrecy and closed systems. No real cloud story. No real hardware innovation.
 
Wow, Wall Street really does look at growth over absolute earnings. After all, if you remove iPhone from Apple's balance sheet, it still makes roughly the same as Google.

Wall Street is in a panic over the falling price of oil, which is mostly very good news. So go figure.
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You're both missing ....the insane profits are in the main non accessible (because they don't want to pay the tax), the vast majority never ends up with the shareholders and none of the cash they hold is being used for anything useful at all.

Inaccessible to whom? Apple is about products and consumers. They might as well go private in the long term, because Wall Street doesn't contribute anything to it anymore. It's just a cheaper way to pay executives in stock options.
 
If that was the case, most developers would use Java/C# for enterprise apps and call it a day. The fact is Apple presented something completely different and devs flocked. That something is losing it's shine. Disruptions will come, and developers will flock. Can Apple disrupt again? I don't know as they are a walled garden and not very openly innovative. Other companies have embraced openness which many developers care deeply about. Mindshare is not driven solely by money.
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Maybe not, but those are innovative and disrupting. If Apple came out with a modular hackable laptop/tablet, people would send the stock to the moon. That is disruption and openness. If they tore down just a bit of the walled garden, people would reward them. Instead we have secrecy and closed systems. No real cloud story. No real hardware innovation.

Mindshare and $1.50 will buy you a cup of coffee. I guess Linux is taking over the world, huh?
 
Wall Street is in a panic over the falling price of oil, which is mostly very good news. So go figure.
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Inaccessible to whom? Apple is about products and consumers. They might as well go private in the long term, because Wall Street doesn't contribute anything to it anymore. It's just a cheaper way to pay executives in stock options.


Compare the share price of Apple and the broader market in relationship to price decline. It's not oil causing Apple's problems.

Apple's CEO overestimates the stupidity of customers. We're just not that dumb.
 
Wall Street is in a panic over the falling price of oil, which is mostly very good news. So go figure.
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Inaccessible to whom? Apple is about products and consumers. They might as well go private in the long term, because Wall Street doesn't contribute anything to it anymore. It's just a cheaper way to pay executives in stock options.
To the folks who own the company, I.e the shareholders
 
If that was the case, most developers would use Java/C# for enterprise apps and call it a day. The fact is Apple presented something completely different and devs flocked. That something is losing it's shine. Disruptions will come, and developers will flock. Can Apple disrupt again? I don't know as they are a walled garden and not very openly innovative. Other companies have embraced openness which many developers care deeply about. Mindshare is not driven solely by money.
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Maybe not, but those are innovative and disrupting. If Apple came out with a modular hackable laptop/tablet, people would send the stock to the moon. That is disruption and openness. If they tore down just a bit of the walled garden, people would reward them. Instead we have secrecy and closed systems. No real cloud story. No real hardware innovation.
Not one lick of that has anything to do with share price (and therefore, accordingly, market cap)...
 
I listened in amazement and thinking to myself as they spoke about Alphabet's huge losses of $3 Million where Analyst expected only about $1.2 Million yet this was no big deal. Google is disgustingly overvalued.

Imagine Apple spoke about huge losses of $3 Million. AAPL would drop to $10 per share.

Frankly, I do not care who is number one. At the end of the day I care about what Apple does as a company to create value for the consumers not what the stock trades for. It's even better for Apple not to be the spotlight. What amazes me is how market can be as corrupted as government.
 
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You're both missing ....the insane profits are in the main non accessible (because they don't want to pay the tax), the vast majority never ends up with the shareholders and none of the cash they hold is being used for anything useful at all.

And Google did? Forgive my ignorance, but since when Google ever declared a dividend?
 
I saw this posted on hacker news...

Does Apple do research in biotech (Alphabet's Calico)? Are they developing drones delivering wireless internet to the world (Google's Skybender)? Do they have an investment arm (Google Ventures)? Did they start an ISP (Google Fiber)?

People see Alphabet's increasing outreach that almost seems ludicrous. Then they compare this with Apple who seems to have been doing iPhones and iPads for 6-10 years, and doesn't seem to be interested in anything else (though this is slowly changing with Apple apparently getting into home automation and self-driving vehicles). It doesn't matter if it is true or not. This is what people perceive. This is what make them value Google more than Apple. For all we know smartphones and tablets could be disrupted by another technology (the same way PCs were disrupted by phones and tablets) and Apple may not be ready for this next tech disruption, while Google is placing bets in many other markets.

Yeah, but Apple makes the most profit and that's what is important to most consumers.
 
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I listened in amazement and thinking to myself as they spoke about Alphabet's huge losses of $3 Million where Analyst expected only about $1.2 Million yet this was no big deal. Google is disgustingly overvalued.

Imagine Apple spoke about huge losses of $3 Million. AAPL would drop to $10 per share.

Frankly, I do not care who is number one. At the end of the day I care about what Apple does as a company to create value for the consumers not what the stock trades for. It's even better for Apple not to be the spotlight. What amazes me is how market can be as corrupted as government.


3M is a huge loss to Google and/or Apple? I don't think so. Did you mean Billion? If so I might agree.
 
Second place is the first loser. I'm not interested in using devices from a company in second place. Anyone know the best Android device out there? Looks like I'm getting all new products.
 
That oil companies are powering the world is a choice, not a necessity. Unfortunately, lobbying goes al long way. If we really wanted to address global warming, we could. But we won't until it's too late: the human race can create something wonderful as an iPhone, but at the same time destroys the world he's living in.

That's one perspective. Another would be that we're supposed to devour the resources the planet provides in order to evolve into machines and beyond. The Earth will be fine. Even if we make a total mess of it, it'll recover in a million years or so. Humans haven't existed forever. We shouldn't assume our species is meant to continue indefinitely. All of that said, I agree will the spirit of your post on a personal level. I hate the thought of the filthy, polluted, toxic, overcrowded future that awaits kids today. Makes me glad I don't have any.
 
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