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Stocks are about the future. You can't make money if a stock isn't going to grow in value. Unfortunately for Cook, he took over a company whose stockholders had come to expect constant innovation and market growth.

So whereas Jobs in his latter years was in his "I will spend every penny we have to defeat Android" mode, Cook is apparently in a "I will spend more and more trying to figure out the next big thing" mode.

R&D spending, while still small revenue-percentage-wise compared to other companies, has been rising quite a bit under Cook. Acquisitions seem pretty constant, in all sorts of fields. Rumors persist of "secret" projects like cars and VR. Until something major is created, smaller changes like upping display sizes, adding more models, removing headphone jacks, 3D touch and adding fashion touches, are used to fill in the stockholder-woo gap.

Hmm. That sounds a bit like the previous post-Jobs era.

I think Apple needs focus. I don't know who can give it. For example, to me, the Apple Watch is the sum of Tim Cook and Jon Ive, minus Steve Jobs, in a microcosm. It has no clear single focus. Instead, Apple put in every feature from call answering to little apps. Personally I like that, but if a different company did it to the same extent, it would be rightfully called "throwing everything against the wall to see what sticks."

Just my thoughts. I feel kind of sorry for Cook. He's been trapped by unrealistic expectations. OTOH, I think a short downturn will help him in the long run, because it will temper those expectations.

I have to admit, I don't always agree with your posts, but this is a great point. I feel like Apple is sometimes a rudderless ship and then others, like planned chaos. Under Jobs, it was a laser focus, so much so, you thought you could see what was coming only to have him blind side a la the raptors in Jurassic park.
 
Google shares what they're working on, Apple doesn't. Look at Google Glass - was that a successful product? No. If Apple had a product that flopped like that, there would be talk in this forum of firing Tim Cook.

That does bring into question Contjnuing the strategy of the Big Reveal. If Apple is being puninshed for non-blockbuster releases while complete failures don't even scratch Google, you have to wonder if they're doing something right in terms of PR.
 
Have they? They've pretty much said that they aren't going to make a hybrid machine and that iOS is for mobile computing and OS is for desktops/laptops.

I don't think they'll move to just iOS... for a very long time, if ever.

iPad Pro is their "clearest vision of personal computing". Then we have that they stated the whole 10 year thing with the naming scheme. Then we have the fact that a majority of things coming to OS X is from iOS anyway.

OS X is not a focus.
 
I think in general smart watches have been a flop. They haven't been revolutionary, nor have they been game changing. In a sea of mediocre watches, Apple's is quite the best though.

I'm really hoping the second version adds health sensors or something to give it that must have appeal. As it stands, it's just a nice accessory.

No, it's only the most selling one because of one very simple factor:

Apple.

Don't over complicate things. The Apple watch is hot garbage no matter how you spin it. It doesn't do anything you can't already do with your phone which requires you to have it on you at all times anyway, therefor, making it COMPLETELY redundant. The price tag is an insult. But worst of all; NO man should have to wear this ugly piece of crap on their wrist. That cheap plastic crap looks like something straight out of a McDonald's Happy Meal (no debating either, dont even try). You really have to lack a pair of testicles to wear that silly joke of a 'watch'.

The ONLY reason why people 'want' it is because of the logo. It's the SAME thing as it was with iPod, even when there were way better alternatives. People didn't care, they just wanted the fashion statement iPod. Same goes for Apple Watch; it's a statement, nothing more.
 
MBPs/Minis should come with PROPER graphics cards, expandable RAM and space for a new HD. Even with high-end MBPs/Minis you're crippled by in-built graphics (even if you pay $5k+ for a machine with maxed out RAM, maxed out HD, retina display and the fastest i7). IMO this is a massive farce...

Apple doesn't market their machines to gamers. They make great, fast machines, and the graphics are more than sufficient for 99% of what people do. But, you are correct :)
 
That does bring into question Contjnuing the strategy of the Big Reveal. If Apple is being puninshed for non-blockbuster releases while complete failures don't even scratch Google, you have to wonder if they're doing something right in terms of PR.

Yes, Google is a triumph of public relations, and bombast over reality; seems the US is primed for this kind of wholesales manipulation these days.
 
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Google have paid up in the UK.. just apple now and the 8bn they are alleged to owe the EU.
I would hardly call a tax rate of 3% "paid". just another corrupt organisation and politicians in their pockets.
Both are disgusting companies at their core.
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Disagree - what makes them a "tax cheat"? They take advantage of the tax laws in place - good business.
Ah the usual crowd defending Huge corporations.....makes me sick that people like yourself think it's ok that huge corps that don't give one damn about anyone, cheat the people.
 
Lol ... with almost 90% of the profits on iOS , Android surely is the clear winner .... for crappy cheap devices :D

LOL... Crappy cheap devices are still better than iPhone... Suck that...

It is absolutely idoitic just dismiss Android phone like that...

P.S. Even Moto G still offer better experience that good old boring iOS
 
Macbook should have had two USB ports.
iPad Pro should have ran a tweaked version of OS X geared for touch.
iMac 4K should have came with an SSD.
Apple TV should have had 4K compatibility for use with home videos shot on iPhone 6S.
iPad Pro should have 128GB base storage, and have the 32GB model only sold as an enterprise model.

These are all things people seem to agree on, and there isn't much of an argument for Apple to have done this. Just start finishing your products before you release them Apple...
You really think any of this would have an effect on the market? I'll tell you now that it wouldn't. Most consumers aren't tech heavy Apple geeks like us posting here and those on Wall Street speculating definitely don't care about those things.

The only thing that would significantly move the needle on the stock price is Apple announcing iPhone sales that are 7-10 million higher than expectations which none of those things would've caused.
 
Why did you ignore the Mac Pro?
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Don't worry, despite what you think and what Apple says will be very different from what Apple WILL DO.

It's not difficult to see Apple's had a major hard-on for iOS, for whatever reason, but if they ever enforce that garbage on desktops, I'm out of the Apple world for good, not even going to bother with Hackintoshes either and it's not to say that they've already SCREWED OS X. Green button = full screen on a DESKTOP with a big screen? What for?! Root in El Capitan? As if we had SO many problems before without it! A plethora of more limited choices in OS X on top of those too.

Apple's basically given all of you a giant slap to the face. What's incredible is that nearly ALL of you deliberately ignore it.

I haven't. You're talking to someone typing on an iMac loaded with Mavericks LOL
 
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You should give it a try. There are lots of great Google products out there. For example, OK Google's voice commands. Works a lot better compared to Siri. Nothing beats Google maps and Google Earth. And what about Youtube? Analytics? Gmail and Chrome for OSX?

Google is a lot more than just a search engine.

- Google now is a battery hog.
- YouTube is riddled with ads everywhere and thus reduced the user experience to a crappy level.
- Analytic is not the most user friendly compare to many other smaller companies.
- Gmail: people don't really have many choices of free email beside gmail and yahoo, if they don't want apple.
- chrome is a performance disgrace compare to safari.
 
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Value is in the eye of the beholder - or in this case: sky-is-falling, President Madagascar investors.



They didn't until a few months ago.

thanks... I guess that's what all that talk about alphabet and google was few month ago. I recall hearing it as background noise but never bothered to see what all the fuss was about...
 
All that profit and yet they've just negotiated a deal with HMRC to pay a comparative pittance in back tax equivalent to a Corporation Tax Rate of just 3%. Shame on our politicians who continue to let this happen while hard working small businesses like mine get hammered for 20% Corporation Tax. I hope the EU intervene and expose our two face hypocritical Tory government for the charlatans they are.
 
Apple has changed ....
Making it harder to replace parts of computers.
Apple stores are now a crowded circus,
and you need a fre@king appointment a week away to get service...

feels like progress... sure....

I'm glad for this
 
A) This is completely non news.
B) I'm glad two top tier tech companies are the biggest in the world. It was such a shame when the biggest companies were archaic oil dealers.
Not dealers, Exploration and Production companies. Unless you intend to compare them to drug dealers - in which case I say: you are too kind.
 
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That's it. Apple's finished!

To be fair, a lot of their eggs are in the iPhone basket.

It's important to remember that Nokia previously held the crown in mobile phones, and Motorola before them. No one predicted the complete fall of Nokia and Blackberry - even after the iPhone was released.

This isn't the end of Apple, but history tells us that they certainly won't stay on top forever. I'm excited to see what is going to come next.
 
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