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Google Glass is the number one selling smartglass and a flop.
Apple Watch is the number one selling smartwatch and a flop.

All wearables are flops.

Google glass is still in beta development and only sold a few to devs to test out.its final version is not done or sold yet.its still in beta and not released to public yet
 
I lAt the end of the day I care about what Apple does as a company to create value for the consumers not what the stock trades for...

Why, pray tell, are you then posting in a thread about stock price?
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Good and I hope to see APPL tank further. Ultimately this will be what gets rid of Cook. I'm sure he's a nice guy but he's boring as bat **** and cares far too much about stock price and investors and shareholders and profits.

Jobs famously said he doesn't care about Wall St. I want to see a designer at the helm who's willing to stand up to shareholders and rebuild some goodwill.

The evidence strongly suggests that Cook cares very little about shareholder ROI.
 
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To be fair, a lot of their eggs are in the iPhone basket.

It's important to remember that Nokia previously held the crown in mobile phones, and Motorola before them. No one predicted the complete fall of Nokia and Blackberry - even after the iPhone was released.
Nah, you're way off on that example. Nokia, as far as retail was exclusively a cell phone company. Apple sells very successful computers, has a very successful iTunes store which helped to get the iPod (which was also very successful) off the ground. They offer many things that make up the company's worth. Sorry, try again.

This isn't the end of Apple, but history tells us that they certainly won't stay on top forever.
Same ole, same ole stuff we hear year after year, and Apple keeps getting bigger and bigger. Sometimes I wonder if people actually hope Apple falters so they can feel the satisfaction of being right.
 



Google's parent company, Alphabet, is encroaching on Apple's status as the most valuable company in the world, reports CNN. While Apple is currently on top, a surge in Alphabet shares today gave it a market valuation of $533.4 billion, briefly surpassing Apple's valuation of $532.7 billion on a 1 percent stock drop.

Alphabet shares dropped shortly after, leaving Apple at a higher valuation, but the numbers could shift again tomorrow following Alphabet's first financial earnings report this afternoon. Alphabet is expected to announce overall revenue growth of close to 15 percent with a 20 percent increase in earnings per share.

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Over the course of the last several months, Apple shares have fallen steadily, dropping its peak valuation of $740 billion to ~$540 billion. Despite record earnings for the first fiscal quarter of 2016, with revenue of $75.9 billion and net quarterly profit of $18.4 billion, Apple has not bounced back from rumors that the iPhone 6s and the iPhone 6s are not selling well and concerns that the company has reached "peak iPhone" with no replacement product on the horizon.

Apple is in for a rough second quarter as the company is expected to announce its first ever decline in iPhone sales and its first year-over-year revenue drop in thirteen years. Currency headwinds caused by a strong U.S. dollar are costing Apple a significant percent of its earnings compared to the year-ago quarter.

Update 1:05 PM: Alphabet is up another 8 percent in after hours trading following a strong earnings report, meaning Alphabet will almost certainly open trading tomorrow at a higher valuation than Apple.

Article Link: Google Briefly Surpasses Apple as World's Most Valuable Company

Tim Cook has squandered the competitive advantage Steve Jobs bequest him. Cook's focus on developing gadgets, like the Apple Watch, rather than real products like its Mac line is stupid and unsustainable.
 
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Wow, Wall Street really does look at growth over absolute earnings. After all, if you remove iPhone from Apple's balance sheet, it still makes roughly the same as Google.

That is a world without dividends. If the US could structure their tax code not to be so punishing to companies people might own stocks for dividends and less as investment vehicles. But as investment vehicles future valuations must dominate. Or so I read somewhere
 
Dear Apple,

Your software is subpar. See Apple Music, iTunes, buggy OS updates, et al.

You developer ecosystem is dying. See the lack of support for the iPad pro, iPad in general, lack of high quality independent developers, the amount of crappy games littering the app store, etc.

You are getting flanked by Google's cloud apps and cheap Chrome computers in academia and the enterprise.

Don't get me started on iCloud. Not just quality problems, but fundamental design issues around doc share, etc.

Frankly, you should have seen this coming. But keep working on cars and VR and watches.

I hate to be so harsh. So caustic. But I say this because I want you to get better. No, I say this because I want you to be great. I love being an Apple customer. I buy Apple products exclusively. But you need to look hard in the mirror.

Stem the tide. Don't make us become the products of a data harvesting advertising company.

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Dear Apple,

Your software is subpar. See Apple Music, iTunes, buggy OS updates, et al.

You developer ecosystem is dying. See the lack of support for the iPad pro, iPad in general, lack of high quality independent developers, the amount of crappy games littering the app store, etc.

You are getting flanked by Google's cloud apps and cheap Chrome computers in academia and the enterprise.

Don't get me started on iCloud. Not just quality problems, but fundamental design issues around doc share, etc.

Frankly, you should have seen this coming. But keep working on cars and VR and watches.

I hate to be so harsh. So caustic. But I say this because I want you to get better. No, I want you to be great. I love being an Apple customer. I buy Apple products exclusively. But you need to look hard in the mirror.

Stem the tide. Don't make us because products of a data harvesting advertising company.

.bw
And you think Apple's reading this right??? lol.
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Good and I hope to see APPL tank further.
I agree! Just as long as AAPL doesn't tank. ;)
 
Macbook should have had two USB ports.
iPad Pro should have ran a tweaked version of OS X geared for touch.
iMac 4K should have came with an SSD.
Apple TV should have had 4K compatibility for use with home videos shot on iPhone 6S.
iPad Pro should have 128GB base storage, and have the 32GB model only sold as an enterprise model.

These are all things people seem to agree on, and there isn't much of an argument for Apple to have done this. Just start finishing your products before you release them Apple...






iPad Pro - Doesn't need a Mac Touch OS, it outsold Microsoft Surface over the holiday season so there's your proof.
iMac 4K - It can come with one if you need it. Not everyone does especially at the base price.
Apple TV - Okay. I can see that as being useful but, 4K apple cameras are only sold on two devices right? Yeah, I don't want to wait on a new chip. I'd rather them make their Apple TV gen 4 without that than to wait another year for that capability. That Apple TV is worth every penny at 149.

iPad pro - Ok. I get tired of that argument. Everything should automatically come with whatever you think everyone needs! Why can't Apple do that for free???

And the fact that everything you just wrote about sold beyond their expectations means you may not be correct. Google sells information. Apple makes products. Think about it.
 
Tim Cook has squandered the competitive advantage Steve Jobs bequest him. Cook's focus on developing gadgets, like the Apple Watch, rather than real products like its Mac line is stupid and unsustainable.
Oh please. Check history before speaking nonsense. This is the same argument presented when Jobs introduced the iPhone. Keynote after keynote he was focusing on the iPhone, then the iPad came around and he was accused of turning focus away from the pros. Same shiz, just different CEO.
 
Apple is really dependent on the iPhone. Way too dependent.

Google is dependent on advertising, but not as much as Apple is dependent on the iPhone. Google also has Android and other successful services, so if one fails or stops growing, it doesn't affect the company as much.

The problem is that the smartphone market is extremely saturated, and that really affects the iPhone's sales, which affect Apple. A lot.

The only thing holding Apple from falling off the cliff is iPhone.
 
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Yup. Whole group in marketing. Pretty big one. It's market/customer intelligence. But thanks for playing.

(And even if they didn't, you realize it's a stylistic form to do this. People do it all the time. Here's a funny example: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/14/d...merican-kitchen-bar-in-times-square.html?_r=0)
Sorry to tell you, your post has no effect on me or most others no doubt. That sort of post isn't necessarily taken seriously as you might hope it would.
 
I listened in amazement and thinking to myself as they spoke about Alphabet's huge losses of $3 Million where Analyst expected only about $1.2 Million yet this was no big deal. Google is disgustingly overvalued.

Imagine Apple spoke about huge losses of $3 Million. AAPL would drop to $10 per share.

Frankly, I do not care who is number one. At the end of the day I care about what Apple does as a company to create value for the consumers not what the stock trades for. It's even better for Apple not to be the spotlight. What amazes me is how market can be as corrupted as government.
I think you're letting your emotions cloud your judgment. Google simply has a lot more "bets" than Apple does. These bets are expensive but in the long run, even if only a small minority of them ever work out, they are the type of bets that will pay off big. Apple just doesn't have as much going for it right now. Their growth is stagnating and it doesn't look like they will get any more growth any time soon. Another shiny iPhone just won't fix this.

I personally think this has been a long time coming. If any stock is highly overvalued, it's AAPL, not Google. Apple has been alienating a lot of customers for a long time now. They're selling a so-called "premium" smartphone with only 16GB of storage for a fifth year running while nearly every other flagship now has at least 32GB. Since the vast majority of customers always get the base model, and since a huge number of them will quickly run out of storage with that 4K camera, lot of people are feeling cheated. Add to this the fact that they've only JUST increased the amount of RAM beyond 1GB, a lot of 6 and 6 Plus owners are already feeling the slowdowns. The most despicable part of all is cloud storage: they haven't increased the free storage tier for iCloud since 2011!

Apple is essentially alienating huge numbers of customers by pinching pennies. They've got their average sale price higher than ever...but they've also angered a lot of people who are not likely to buy an iphone ever again. Apple is making the exact same mistake that nearly every other powerful corporation makes: they've been hijacked by uncreative brainless MBA school types and wall Street executives and they've forgotten who they really are.

Worst of all, they aren't investing intelligently for the future. Their biggest investment right now seems to be an autonomous car, which will almost certainly prove to be an incredibly expensive and disastrous mistake. Meanwhile Google is investing in all the right places: artificial intelligence (!!!), biotechnology, and they almost certainly aren't stupid enough to try and sell a Google branded car (they are likely to just license it out to carmakers).

Apple has become rich and content and they're really letting it go to their heads. The fact that they're selling $20K watches and trying to enter the music streaming business should tell you what an utter and complete failure of leadership Apple is suffering from. Apple should be placing big bets on fields that actually have a chance of success: artificial intelligence (Siri would really benefit from this), quantum computing enabled cloud services, carbon nanotube computing, etc.
 
That's kind of your problem. Go use Google Glass, Play Store, Nexus 7/Bamboo Stylus and Chromebook Pixel instead. Pathetic copies of Apple products that's all Google is good for. Now they've even copied Apple Maps.

Mmmmm... You must be joking.
 
Apple is really dependent on the iPhone. Way too dependent.

Google is dependent on advertising, but not as much as Apple is dependent on the iPhone. Google also has Android and other successful services, so if one fails or stops growing, it doesn't affect the company as much.

The problem is that the smartphone market is extremely saturated, and that really affects the iPhone's sales, which affect Apple. A lot.

The only thing holding Apple from falling off the cliff is iPhone.
Keep telling yourself that untruth. You may actually believe what you say. The Mac business and the iTunes business are very strong parts of Apple and are the DNA of the company. But please go on and enjoy making yourself believe that Apple has no other leg to stand on. Every single major company today has at least one big hit record that took them to the highest mountain (Google Search, Android) (Microsoft Windows, Office) (Sony, TV's and Playstation) but it does not mean they should all close up business if that product that took them up there falters. Apple didn't become successful from being stupid. BTW, the iPad is still the #1 selling tablet in the U.S. despite declining tablet sales. They have plenty enough to keep them strong. But please don't allow facts to get in the way of your post.
 
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Keep telling yourself that untruth. You may actually believe what you say. The Mac business and the iTunes business are very strong parts of Apple and are the DNA of the company. But please go on and enjoy making yourself believe that Apple has no other leg to stand on. Every single major company today has at least one big hit record that took them to the highest mountain (Google Search, Android) (Microsoft Windows, Office) (Sony, TV's and Playstation) but it does not mean they should all close up business if that product that took them up there falters. Apple didn't become successful from being stupid. BTW, the iPad is still the #1 selling tablet in the U.S. despite declining tablet sales. They have plenty enough to keep them strong. But please don't allow facts to get in the way of your post.

I don't think you comprehend how big the iPhone business is to Apple compared to everything else they have.
 
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No, definitely NOT like Apple.

Fortunately Apple isn't Google...
I'm waiting for the next exciting novelties by Apple, not the half baked futuristic solutions by Google...


yet it doesn't have anything to do with stock exchange (and thus with this thread).
Better products equals more sales, more growth. Growth is about all Wall St looks at; i.e everything to do with this thread.

Uninformed posts like yours, blindly defending Apple have nothing to do with this thread.
 
You must be joking.
I'm not. Google never invented anything. Just like Microsoft they became rich by copying Apple and forming a monopoly. As a user I could easily live in a world without Google. The Internet would work better without search engine optimization and page ranks. I don't get why advertisers pay them? Google doesn't even sell your stuff like Ebay would.
 
Apple is really dependent on the iPhone. Way too dependent.

Google is dependent on advertising, but not as much as Apple is dependent on the iPhone. Google also has Android and other successful services, so if one fails or stops growing, it doesn't affect the company as much.

The problem is that the smartphone market is extremely saturated, and that really affects the iPhone's sales, which affect Apple. A lot.

The only thing holding Apple from falling off the cliff is iPhone.
Except Apple outside of iPhone is far more successful and profitable than Google outside ads.

Android and those other 'services' generate less revenue than Apple makes just from Macs alone. Then almost all of their endeavors outside of ads can mostly be considered failures in the sense of how much revenue they actually bring to the company. Google is heavily dependent on Ads and has yet to develop a successful profit generator outside of it. If ad revenue slows down, Google will be in the red, Apple still has more profit than Google as a whole even if you remove the iPhone.
 
I don't think you comprehend how big the iPhone business is to Apple compared to everything else they have.
I can say the same to you about Apple's other products. Besides that's not the message your post conveyed. You're saying Apple may as well close up business if the iPhone someday fails. Ridiculous! Apple keeps on reinventing themselves. Jobs got the Mac business to high success. Today virtually everywhere you will see someone with a Mac. After he got the Mac business going again he introduced the iPod and iTunes and they were nothing short of major smash hits. No other company that tried to copy the iPod and iTunes were successful. People said Apple was gonna die if the iPod finally died. Well guess what, they brought out the iPhone.

Then Jobs introduced the iPad and people laughed at Apple. iPad is now the biggest selling tablet in the U.S. You can go ahead and deny that Apple can't make it in life without the iPhone, but they're too smart to rely on one product. They've already proven that. Too bad you refuse to see that.
 
It will probably bounce back and forth between Apple and Alphabet for the next few decades or so until another company that's an unknown at this point becomes the latest thing and out shines both.
 
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