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They are getting quicker at copying Apple.

Remind me what Google has done that isn't a copy or buy-out?
Psst.... Apple bought Siri, they didn't create it. ;)
Apple also doesn't own the major patents behind it either. :eek:
Nuance still owns those.
 
When they have advertised like that?

All the time. Here's one with the user's hands turning into terminator like metal digits:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8bSLMcerCc


It's also narrated by Lance Henrikson, one of his more famous roles was playing the android Bishop (he prefers the term "synthetic human") in "Aliens". Just another way to reinforce "android."

Although if you look closely, Motorola licenses the term "droid" from Lucasfilm. Ol' George keeps making money hand over fist.
 
They are getting quicker at copying Apple.

Remind me what Google has done that isn't a copy or buy-out?

apple bought siri which is a copy of vlingo just on roids... apple didn't invent siri.

fact that google has this apparently b3fore the end of the year means it's been in their pipeline for a while.

apple did not invent everything just b/c things may be similar.
 
Although if you look closely, Motorola licenses the term "droid" from Lucasfilm. Ol' George keeps making money hand over fist.
Verizon licensed it, not Motorola. ;)

You will only find the "Droid" brand phones on Verizon's network.
Motorola, HTC and Samsung make "Droid" phones under contract with Verizon.

The Droid Incredible/2 are HTC
The Droid Charge is from Samsung
The rest are pretty much made by Motorola
 
Now that Apple has shown the way forward again - this time with an implementation of voice technology that is actually useful - it's "safe" for everyone else to follow suit.

You mean using someone else's voice recognition technology that has been around for years? Or do you mean the other functionality which was taken from publicly available research code that's been around for years?

The only "innovation" Apple has added is marketing BS, and a gullible customer base.
 
I almost considered buying an Android phone, and then I saw their keynote for the Nexus..
Total shambles especially the face unlock which didn't work, now THAT is a gimmick!
 
You mean using someone else's voice recognition technology that has been around for years? Or do you mean the other functionality which was taken from publicly available research code that's been around for years?

The only "innovation" Apple has added is marketing BS, and a gullible customer base.

And it's working, Google being one of the gullible customer base LOL. They (Google) already had voice command capability. If was any good there would be no need for a "secret" project called "Majel".
 
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This is false

False in what way? Previously you acknowledged that the notification feature I linked to "was a 3rd party app from Cydia" and now you're denying that it existed?

http://talk-iphone.com/are-apples-notification-centre-a-stolen-idea-from-android/

http://www.iphoneworld.ca/news/2008...n-information-for-you-while-iphone-is-locked/

That feature was on the iPhone (via Cydia) in May of 2008. The first Android phone to hit the market was the HTC Dream (G1) which arrived Oct. 22, 2008.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Dream

So in what way is the statement that such a notification feature pre-dated Google's implementation in Android false? I'm trying my best to understand where some of you guys are coming from, but I'm getting the growing sense that some of you are just in it to defend Android's claim to being there first at all costs.
 
Say what you want about Google, but as an Apple user, I can say that if Google want to do this Voice Assistant, they will do it much much better than Siri.

Let's be honest, Android OS has this voice recognition service long before Siri or even mere VoiceOver or VoiceCommand on iOS. It ma be suck or whatever, but obviously iOS is not the first one to have it. Period

And then think about this:
Google is the best search engine on earth, and services like Siri basically is a voice activated search engine.
You call Siri, you speak, it captures your voice, it search the Internet (mostly on Apple's server) and Siri give you the most relevant result, either it's a dictated text feedback, or non dictated data (weather, math operation result etc)

And you know what? Even Apple still needs Google for its web operation. What is the default search engine on Safari Mobile? or even Safari? .. What is the app used for mapping on iOS?

So if Google really want to do it, although sounds harsh for you fanboys, Google would do it better. It has massive database, it knows basically everything going on this earth, and then some :D

Let's just say Apple can't be the best at everything, if Apple want Siri compete with Google, they better start their own search engine business, which actually really really reaaaalllyy late. :D
 
Say what you want about Google, but as an Apple user, I can say that if Google want to do this Voice Assistant, they will do it much much better than Siri.

Let's be honest, Android OS has this voice recognition service long before Siri or even mere VoiceOver or VoiceCommand on iOS. It ma be suck or whatever, but obviously iOS is not the first one to have it. Period

And then think about this:
Google is the best search engine on earth, and services like Siri basically is a voice activated search engine.
You call Siri, you speak, it captures your voice, it search the Internet (mostly on Apple's server) and Siri give you the most relevant result, either it's a dictated text feedback, or non dictated data (weather, math operation result etc)

And you know what? Even Apple still needs Google for its web operation. What is the default search engine on Safari Mobile? or even Safari? .. What is the app used for mapping on iOS?

So if Google really want to do it, although sounds harsh for you fanboys, Google would do it better. It has massive database, it knows basically everything going on this earth, and then some :D

Let's just say Apple can't be the best at everything, if Apple want Siri compete with Google, they better start their own search engine business, which actually really really reaaaalllyy late. :D

Your comments have yet to be proven. Right now it just exists as a fantasy in your head. Yes they had a voice recognition, but didn't make a move to improve it until they asked Siri who has the best voice recognition service.:D
 
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If you can't flirt with it...

Every nerd in the world who could never get a girlfriend has one now called Siri.

If you can't flirt with Android's voice interaction, then I can't see it winning over the nerds.

If I tell Siri she is beautiful she says "Oh, stop". If I ask her to marry me she says "That's sweet, Chris"

If the Android one has no personality and therefor just googles marriage or something, nerds aren't gunna like it.

Sure CEOs might want a boring computer conversation, but nerds need girlfriends, and Siri is their girl, and nerds make the tech world go 'round.
 
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So it will be in android 5.0 which will be out next November which means devices will have this Siri competitor by June 2013
 
I am confused tho.. Every Android fanboi has been telling us since Siri came out that Android has the same thing for ages. But now we are told Google are building a Siri rival.

So is the existing Android voice interaction actually not as good as Siri??? Did the Android fanbois accidentally get it wrong??
 
All the time. Here's one with the user's hands turning into terminator like metal digits:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8bSLMcerCc


It's also narrated by Lance Henrikson, one of his more famous roles was playing the android Bishop (he prefers the term "synthetic human") in "Aliens". Just another way to reinforce "android."

Although if you look closely, Motorola licenses the term "droid" from Lucasfilm. Ol' George keeps making money hand over fist.

This is a Verizon ad and Motorola doesn't license the term "droid" from Lucasfilm, Verizon does. The Droid line-up is Verizon exclusive and it contains phones by Motorola and HTC (the Droid Eris was a HTC phone, not a Motorola phone).

So frankly, to equate those ads with Google is plain delusional. This is pure Verizon. Hate on their marketeers, not on Google.
 
what

you cant be serious, Andy Robbin sat right there in front of Walt Mosberg and said "your phone should not be your assistant" down playing Siri, and they are working on a Siri like voice rec software. if i was a Fandroid ill switch right not.
thats a shame.

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Why exactly does anyone thing that Google can suddenly pull the rabbit from the hat here?

Siri was technology that was actively being worked on for a long time. Google isn't the paragon of rapid application development.

I suspect we'll see a crappy knockoff coming that will satiate Android fans where "good enough" is the mantra.
 
This is a Verizon ad and Motorola doesn't license the term "droid" from Lucasfilm, Verizon does. The Droid line-up is Verizon exclusive and it contains phones by Motorola and HTC (the Droid Eris was a HTC phone, not a Motorola phone).

So frankly, to equate those ads with Google is plain delusional. This is pure Verizon. Hate on their marketeers, not on Google.

Yea, google's clearly not responsible for any of the marketing of its own platform. I mean google's done so much to prove that it isn't about its products and users being robotic in any sense and shows otherwise.

Oh yea, no they don't. You're trying to argue a ridiculous point if you think that it's all Verizon's fault for marketing google's own Android platform that way and that google is just innocently watching from afar. Not everything needs to be spelled out explicitly for it to be the case, and it's delusional to think that google has no part in its portrayal. If they found it to be an issue then that would be made clear.
 
I'm just sayin'. Some people think Apple did everything first.

Apple had a shipping product in June 2007.

When did the first Android phone come out? :D

NOTE: This is not an attempt to derail the conversation into a discussion of devices that came before the iPhone. We know there were.

But in terms of Apple and Android... Apple had a product first. No wonder people think Android copied the iPhone.
 
Yea, google's clearly not responsible for any of the marketing of its own platform. I mean google's done so much to prove that it isn't about its products and users being robotic in any sense and shows otherwise.

Oh yea, no they don't. You're trying to argue a ridiculous point if you think that it's all Verizon's fault for marketing google's own Android platform that way and that google is just innocently watching from afar. Not everything needs to be spelled out explicitly for it to be the case, and it's delusional to think that google has no part in its portrayal. If they found it to be an issue then that would be made clear.

You are privy to Verizon and Google's contract ? Do they even have a contract or is Verizon just dealing with the OEM's of the OHA ?

Sure, much easier to just say "Google says everyone is a bot!" when that's not even what the ad says. :rolleyes:

Point is, Droid is a Verizon brand and the marketing around the Droid brand is Verizon's.
 
Say what you want about Google, but as an Apple user, I can say that if Google want to do this Voice Assistant, they will do it much much better than Siri.
That remains to be seen.

And then think about this:
Google is the best search engine on earth, and services like Siri basically is a voice activated search engine.
You call Siri, you speak, it captures your voice, it search the Internet (mostly on Apple's server) and Siri give you the most relevant result, either it's a dictated text feedback, or non dictated data (weather, math operation result etc)

If all siri was is a search engine it would not need to go through Apples servers for processing. Voice activation using predetermined phrases is not the same thing that siri does. Siri takes the spoken words and has to interpet the actual meaning before doing an internet search, which by the way does not have to be a google search engine.

So if Google really want to do it, although sounds harsh for you fanboys, Google would do it better. It has massive database, it knows basically everything going on this earth, and then some :D

Google lags behind in that technology. Yeah it can eventually have something simular. But doing it better remains to be seen.

Let's just say Apple can't be the best at everything, if Apple want Siri compete with Google, they better start their own search engine business, which actually really really reaaaalllyy late. :D

They dont have to they are not in the search engine business. at least not yet...lol
 
You mean using someone else's voice recognition technology that has been around for years? Or do you mean the other functionality which was taken from publicly available research code that's been around for years?

The only "innovation" Apple has added is marketing BS, and a gullible customer base.

Yet the industry spins and turns on Apple's "marketing BS" and is desperate beyond measure to appeal to this "gullible customer base" you speak of.
 
I'm just sayin'. Some people think Apple did everything first.

Apple hardly does something first. They are not into doing things first.

They are doing things in a much better, less convoluted and elegant manner.

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Haha, Siri is machine learning? It just has extra algorithms that make it understand syntax. And syntax follows a very basic set of rules. How is that machine learning?

Why talk when you don't know what you're talking about. I come from AI and pursued my PhD in Machine Learning from CMU. Just relax and be done with it.
 
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you cant be serious, Andy Robbin sat right there in front of Walt Mosberg and said "your phone should not be your assistant" down playing Siri, and they are working on a Siri like voice rec software. if i was a Fandroid ill switch right not.
thats a shame.

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That's how these things work. Downplay great tech that you didn't implement so you don't appear stupid or off your game, and then when enough time has passed, release your implementation.

This is pretty much what everyone does. Even Apple, but hey usually happen to be first mover, so what you often see is the competition's attempt to respond and do damage control. Apple is usually the one causing everyone else to react. The industry is following Apple's agenda, but not everyone can execute the plays on time, or even properly.
 
you cant be serious, Andy Robbin sat right there in front of Walt Mosberg and said "your phone should not be your assistant" down playing Siri, and they are working on a Siri like voice rec software. if i was a Fandroid ill switch right not.
thats a shame.

Not to be a grammar Nazi - but what were you trying to say?
 
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