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Google to Show Off 'Next Dimension' of Maps on June 6

Flitzy said:
It uses Google's data and I already went into why it's bad.
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No, you just have said is terrible, nothing more

Flitzy said:
Numourous violations of privacy, spying, and info theft via WiFi snooping.
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What privacy violations? What spyng? What infor theft?

As I have said, you have read something but you don't know exactly what and you just are showing your bias and ignorance


Flitzy said:
Google is not a tech darling, no matter how much tech blogs try to spin.
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And? This doens't make more true your wrong claims
 
rnizlek said:
I hope so. Unless Apple maps replicate Google's transit routing functionality, I'll be sticking with Google for a long time. Really, I just hope Apple gives us a choice in map providers, but I know that won't happen.
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Sure Apple will give you the choice, but not as the default. You will have to use a stand alone application if you want a non-Google solution. THis is what I have to do now not to use the Google maps (I use Navigon).

This is about control of the data and user experience. Apple doesn't want Google to have iOS users data. Further, Google's mapping service is handicapped on iOS.

I think APple will do a great job with maps implementing turn by turn and backing in Siri integration (Siri tell me how to get home).
 
Flitzy said:
It uses Google's data and I already went into why it's bad.

Numourous violations of privacy, spying, and info theft via WiFi snooping.

Google is not a tech darling, no matter how much tech blogs try to spin.
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Wifi snooping ? Don't broadcast your SSID publicly... Heck, I'm "snooping" on my neighbors right now with my MacBook Air, look at all those pretty SSIDs... :rolleyes:

Google didn't go into anyone's homes. They took pictures in public of things displayed... in public. Street view is a very good feature. There is nothing bad about their mapping.
 
Oletros said:
What privacy violations? What spyng? What infor theft?

As I have said, you have read something but you don't know exactly what and you just are showing your bias and ignorance
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The one that was all over the news and that they were fined for.

http://www.bing.com/search?q=google+maps+wifi+spying

http://www.zdnet.com.au/google-admits-to-wi-fi-spying-339303194.htm

http://news.cnet.com/8301-30684_3-20005439-265.html

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-20005430-38.html?tag=mncol;txt

Do no evil, indeed.
 
KnightWRX said:
My iOS maps app has Street View. It's made by Apple. Of course it uses Google's backend...

But that's the point, the backend didn't need fixing or changing, Google is smart and has a solid offering there. What needed fixing was the front-end Apple was putting on top of it.
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Yes, but this is about what Apple was willing to agree to to fix the front end. Apple isn't going to hand Google a large portion of user data to implement turn by turn.
 
Oletros said:
After reading your links, if you still don't understand them, please, ask. We will be very glad of enlighten you
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I understand completely but if people still want to use a substandard company that sells your information off to 3rd parties and has no regard for your privacy.. be my guest.

I just hope Apple has the good sense to kick them off of iOS.
 
Flitzy said:
I understand completely but if people still want to use a substandard company that sells your information off to 3rd parties and has no regard for your privacy.. be my guest.
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Still spreading wrong claims, Google doesn't sell any information to 3rd parties
 
Terrin said:
Yes, but this is about what Apple was willing to agree to to fix the front end. Apple isn't going to hand Google a large portion of user data to implement turn by turn.
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Why do you feel they needed to hand user data to begin with ? Request a route through the Google maps API and then dictate that route to the user. There's no handing over of data.
 
They are also being investigated for using their monopoly in Search to taint the search results to favor its own online properties to the detriment of competing products. For instance, Google would place its Google Places link ahead of Yelp. Further, Google steals information from some sites to use in its own competing products. For instance, Google wants to kill Yelp for its Places. The problem was Google didn't have user reviews of restaurants, so Google essentially took Yelp's user reviews and placed them in its own product thereby undercutting Yelps service.

Flitzy said:
The one that was all over the news and that they were fined for.

http://www.bing.com/search?q=google+maps+wifi+spying

http://www.zdnet.com.au/google-admits-to-wi-fi-spying-339303194.htm

http://news.cnet.com/8301-30684_3-20005439-265.html

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-20005430-38.html?tag=mncol;txt

Do no evil, indeed.
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Anyone else notice any differences with Google Maps currently? Not sure when it happened, but I was recently looking at a location in Austin, TX and the entire area was from an angled view. Was really strange, but awesome.
 
FlatlinerG said:
Anyone else notice any differences with Google Maps currently? Not sure when it happened, but I was recently looking at a location in Austin, TX and the entire area was from an angled view. Was really strange, but awesome.
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It has been that way for a while. I tend to turn off 3d view when looking for direction and what not because I just want the information but I am a very function over form type of person.
 
Let the competition begin. See......this is great for th end user. As a customer, this is hat we really want. Competition is key to satisfaction.
 
Terrin said:
They are also being investigated for using their monopoly in Search to taint the search results to favor its own online properties to the detriment of competing products. For instance, Google would place its Google Places link ahead of Yelp. Further, Google steals information from some sites to use in its own competing products. For instance, Google wants to kill Yelp for its Places. The problem was Google didn't have user reviews of restaurants, so Google essentially took Yelp's user reviews and placed them in its own product thereby undercutting Yelps service.
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And Apple is being investigated for collusion in the online publishing game...

And they stole the wifi-sync icon and idea off a cydia dev :

http://www.cultofmac.com/99951/cydia-dev-apple-stole-both-my-idea-and-my-icon-for-wifi-sync/

Corporations push the boundaries of what is legal all the time. Unless Yelp Inc. actually has copyrighted the user reviews and gone after Google, this is just "business as usual" in the corporate world. If you want to "hate" Google for it, also hate Apple which is guilty of the same kind of feats.

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rhett7660 said:
This is what I think it is, and Google didn't want Apple to be the first to show off one of their big products. Which I don't blame them. I hope this is still on iOS.
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And I'm pretty sure Google's presentation will be all about MapsGL which they have been showing off for a while on their site. They're probably just making it official now.
 
Flitzy said:
I understand completely but if people still want to use a substandard company that sells your information off to 3rd parties and has no regard for your privacy.. be my guest.

I just hope Apple has the good sense to kick them off of iOS.
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How do you get from reading articles about how Google inadvertently collected fragments of unencrypted data, unusable and discarded, to drawing the conclusion that Google sells information to 3rd parties?
 
Lennholm said:
Google sells information to 3rd parties?
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Anyway, if Google is an intelligent advertising company, they don't sell their information to 3rd parties, that's just daft. They sell ad placement to 3rd parties and use the data internally to reach the proper users with their client's ads so as to maximize the client's revenues and get them to come back for more.

The data is the "secret sauce", you don't sell the recipe!
 
bazaarsoft said:
It's pathetic to see Google resort to these well-known Microsoft strategies - preview technology that someone else is about to release for real. I have very little doubt that they'll show "in the lab" concepts with no real ship dates/timelines, etc. Attempt to create the impression of being the leader while in reality just following the leader.

Google truly is the next Microsoft.
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Google has been releasing improvements on a regular basis to Maps for years. Unfortunately, it just hasn't been on iOS. I'm unclear whether Google develops that maps app or if it's Apple, though. The competition will be a good thing for both parties. I'll be interested to see how close (or beyond?) Apple comes to Google Maps for Android. Realistically, they probably won't even have to match them feature for feature though; if they just add navigation with some UI/UX polish, most people will be happy.

As for Google, I'm interested to see where their whole self-driving car experiment leads. That's potentially very exciting.
 
I feel this 3D map business is just a gimmick anyway. Yes, I'd find it useful and mildly entertaining on a computer or tablet, but on a smartphone, not really interested.

Sorry.
 
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