I'd be ok with that, so far Google Maps on the iPad is nearly perfect. iPhone on the other hand needs native turn by turn directions.
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I'd be ok with that, so far Google Maps on the iPad is nearly perfect. iPhone on the other hand needs native turn by turn directions.
While I'm sure that the new fancy 3D maps will look great, I'd much prefer they focused on updating their maps more regularly. I've looked at several 1,000,000+ cities recently that haven't been been updated since 2009, and in some parts 2007. I know some people will say thats only 3 or 4 years ago, but there are areas in those cities that have greatly transformed since then. They should work on making all major cities accurate to within 2 years before they start messing around with 3D.
Have you read the invitation? It clearlly says:
But, you're right, lets wait and see.
But, you're right, lets wait and see.
Excellent post. There are some serious Google haters here. Google has given us a lot over the years. They have forced Apple to step up their game...and vice versa. Competition in technology is awesome isn't it?
Good thing you are not in marketing. Please tell me when iOS 6 will be released, and then we'll take about "release for real". Because Apple innovated so much that they had to BUY a mapping company. And here's the exact quote from Google:
"At this invitation-only press gathering, Brian McClendon, VP of Google Maps and Google Earth, will give you a behind-the-scenes look at Google Maps and share our vision. We’ll also demo some of the newest technology and provide a sneak peek at upcoming features that will help people get where they want to go – both physically and virtually. We hope to see you there."
They are demoing the technology that'll be released soon. This is EXACTLY like Apple by demoing iOS 6. And we have NO clue when Google and Apple will release their latest and greatest, but somehow Google stuff is "in the lab" while Apple stuff is "release for real". PS...Google has been in mapping business since 2005. What mapping service do think Apple uses for the past few years? If anything, Apple is copying Google in the mapping business.
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There's nothing inherently wrong with Apple letting third-party devs fill that gap. Mapping just happens to be one of Google's strengths, so of course they are going to play to it. That left Apple with a difficult decision—stay the course and let user's pay for turn-by-turn navigation, as I did with the excellent and very affordable (around $15) Australian MetroView app, or try to compete head on with Google in an area where Google is strong. I suspect you'll be seeing the result of that decision in a couple of weeks.
Some good points there.
I suspect it has been a matter of "can't" rather than "won't", as long as they were using Google's maps as a basis. Google probably restricts Apple from doing what it would need to do to have a decent navigation app. It's Google's data, after all.
I agree that not having an out-of-the-box navigation app is a shortcoming for the iPhone., so getting rid of Google Maps and using their own mapping solution is the best way for Apple to move forward.
Wow
It's bizarre how short so many people's memory is... android is a blazon copy of the iOS and iPhone. Look at the entire smart phone/mobile phone space immediately before the first iPhone was released.
Thanks to whoever it was that linked to the company Apple bought for maps... when they bought it (long ago) it was ahead of what Google has NOW. I'm willing to bet the most significant shortcoming was optimizing performance enough to enable a quality, massive scale product launch.
I'm no apple fanboy, but I am definitely sick of Google. Google the next Microsoft? Please... Microsoft is angelic comparatively.
It's not sure that Apple is launching their map solution, but it's quite clear that Google is scared and spinning-away as usual. I just hope Apple wises-up and does a better job protecting their IP.
It's bizarre how short so many people's memory is... android is a blazon copy of the iOS and iPhone. Look at the entire smart phone/mobile phone space immediately before the first iPhone was released.
Thanks to whoever it was that linked to the company Apple bought for maps... when they bought it (long ago) it was ahead of what Google has NOW. I'm willing to bet the most significant shortcoming was optimizing performance enough to enable a quality, massive scale product launch.
I'm no apple fanboy, but I am definitely sick of Google. Google the next Microsoft? Please... Microsoft is angelic comparatively.
It's not sure that Apple is launching their map solution, but it's quite clear that Google is scared and spinning-away as usual. I just hope Apple wises-up and does a better job protecting their IP.
Apple has two choices: Continue to license Google's map data under whatever restrictions Google manages to include in the license negotiation, or develop (acquire) its own map data that it can use the best way it can.
I am hopeful that Apple will introduce a non-Google Maps app that will be very competitive with what Google offers on Android phones. But even if it isn't as good--even if it isn't as good as Apple's current Maps app, I'm not worried about it. It will get better, and it won't have the constraints that Google imposes on Apple in its license agreement.
I don't think this is a good idea. Apple should just let Google do all of the mapping for them. Make Google spend the billions of dollars on a profitless service.
Now it's Apple (new to maps) vs Google (been at it since 2001).
EDIT: I know that Google makes Maps to get attention and get people sucked in, but that's not what Apple does. Apple gets people sucked into iPods and Macs, not online services. Google already has a fleet of free online services that work well with each other. Apple is out of its comfort zone.
Now it's Apple (new to maps) vs Google (been at it since 2001).
EDIT: I know that Google makes Maps to get attention and get people sucked in, but that's not what Apple does. Apple gets people sucked into iPods and Macs, not online services. Google already has a fleet of free online services that work well with each other. Apple is out of its comfort zone.
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It is good in this case, but competition can be bad if it ends up fragmenting the market too much. Then, no tech item works well with other tech items. What if 1/4 of us used Mac, 1/4 Windows, 1/4 Linux, and 1/4... other?
Look at the phone market before the iPhone, for example. There was no ecosystem. SMS appeared as a result, and it's been ripping people off ever since.
Truth is I guess we don't know the licensing deal between Apple and Google. It is all a big unknown, whether Google will announce some ready to use map improvement, or announce something for the future, whether Apple has maps that equal or surpass Google's new functionality is something we will only know down the road. I have my doubts about this move. I am hoping that the web based Google maps support all of whatever new functionality they will announce, in case any potential Apple maps is not up to par. I like the products from both companies. I hope we don't lose in this bargain, as consumers I mean.
Actually Apple is being sued for an alleged anti-trust violation regarding the switch to an agency model for the sale of e-books. As a lawyer, I can tell you the government's case against Apple is extremely weak because to be found guilty of an anti-trust violation Apple would have had to conclude with Amazon, not the publishers. Further, Apple's current business model with Apps and music adopted the same model. The government has no problem with the same model when it comes to music and apps. Consequently, the government will likely lose its case against Apple, which is why Apple didn't settle.
As far as the Cydia icon is concerned, the problem with that claim is the developer based his icon on previous wi-fi icons of Apple (merging several together). So essentially the developer created a derivative work of an icon that Apple has a copyright on. Accordingly, the developer's work is not protected. The same thing happened with the movie Rocky 4. A writer sent Sylvester Stallone the script for the movie that was eventually made. Stallone used the script without paying the writer. The writer sued. The writer lost because the script used characters that Stallone created. A better example of how Apple operates is how Apple hired the developer of the notification system sold on Cydia that eventually made its way into iOS 5.
No offense, but you don't really seem to know what you are talking about when it comes to intellectual property. When you write something, a copyright is automatically created. You don't need to do anything special to copyright it. More importantly, Yelp would have a hard time going after Google formally because Google can retaliate using its monopoly in search and remove Yelp all together from search results (or move them to the second page results). That is why it is anticompetitive because Google is using its monopoly power to an unfair advantage in a different market. In the years it would take to go through the Courts, Yelp would be out of business and have no money to go after Google. Instead, Yelp (and other companies) are pressuring government agencies to go after Google.
Further, Apple hasn't been found liable (or guilty) for either of the things you pointed out. Google, however, has in fact admitted to acting improperly with the wi-fi snooping. It also settled a claim with the DOJ for selling ads for illegal drugs. If you want to compare Apple to Google, you probably should come up with better examples.
As far as the Cydia icon is concerned, the problem with that claim is the developer based his icon on previous wi-fi icons of Apple (merging several together). So essentially the developer created a derivative work of an icon that Apple has a copyright on. Accordingly, the developer's work is not protected. The same thing happened with the movie Rocky 4. A writer sent Sylvester Stallone the script for the movie that was eventually made. Stallone used the script without paying the writer. The writer sued. The writer lost because the script used characters that Stallone created. A better example of how Apple operates is how Apple hired the developer of the notification system sold on Cydia that eventually made its way into iOS 5.
No offense, but you don't really seem to know what you are talking about when it comes to intellectual property. When you write something, a copyright is automatically created. You don't need to do anything special to copyright it. More importantly, Yelp would have a hard time going after Google formally because Google can retaliate using its monopoly in search and remove Yelp all together from search results (or move them to the second page results). That is why it is anticompetitive because Google is using its monopoly power to an unfair advantage in a different market. In the years it would take to go through the Courts, Yelp would be out of business and have no money to go after Google. Instead, Yelp (and other companies) are pressuring government agencies to go after Google.
Further, Apple hasn't been found liable (or guilty) for either of the things you pointed out. Google, however, has in fact admitted to acting improperly with the wi-fi snooping. It also settled a claim with the DOJ for selling ads for illegal drugs. If you want to compare Apple to Google, you probably should come up with better examples.
I have to disagree here, since the vast majority of cars--even new production models--out there don't have built-in navigation screens, and using your cellphone as a GPS device could result in data downloads counted against your monthly download cap. I wouldn't be surprised that Google's mapping technology is shared with Garmin and TomTom in the near future, though.
Google Maps is synonymous with directions these days. Apple will be behind from the get-go. No doubt people will download the Google Maps app and use that by default anyway.
So how Apple keeps google map, while having their own?
I think it is likely that apple will have a single app for both - apple and google's maps. User can choose which (old or new) to use @ setting - just like setting the default search engine for your iDevices. Of course, Apple will favor its own map by setting it as default. If I is a success, apple will then decide to dump google map in future iOS update..
I think it is somewhat premature for those who said that iOS map is inferior vs. google's. Apple have the track record that only announcing 'the best' even with a 'beta' label on it.
I think this is why google is pressured to announce it map's future development prior to Apple wwdc.
Hopefully, google will announce some real stuff, which will be tangible within months, unlike it's augmented reality glasses that will be available for sales perhaps in next decade?
I think it is likely that apple will have a single app for both - apple and google's maps. User can choose which (old or new) to use @ setting - just like setting the default search engine for your iDevices. Of course, Apple will favor its own map by setting it as default. If I is a success, apple will then decide to dump google map in future iOS update..
I think it is somewhat premature for those who said that iOS map is inferior vs. google's. Apple have the track record that only announcing 'the best' even with a 'beta' label on it.
I think this is why google is pressured to announce it map's future development prior to Apple wwdc.
Hopefully, google will announce some real stuff, which will be tangible within months, unlike it's augmented reality glasses that will be available for sales perhaps in next decade?
Judging by the photo with the drop pin and the angle of the earth I would assume that they are going to finally be adding in 3D support of buildings and what not.
Judging by some of the posts here, it seems the logic is kinda like this:
If Apple buys a company to compete with its competitors' services, then Apple suddenly is "leading," or it's only "natural" and "common sense" that they would do it.
If another company, such as Microsoft or Google, buys another company to compete with Apple's services, then these competitors are "still behind", or "desperate", "copying", or "can't innovate" or "loser".
If Apple buys a company to compete with its competitors' services, then Apple suddenly is "leading," or it's only "natural" and "common sense" that they would do it.
If another company, such as Microsoft or Google, buys another company to compete with Apple's services, then these competitors are "still behind", or "desperate", "copying", or "can't innovate" or "loser".
Actually, I think Apple is copying Google Maps like how Microsoft's Bing copied Google Everything.
Apple, just don't make a search engine!
I dunno why but all this bickering about Google or Apple having best maps reminds me of the SNL "Lazy Sunday" rap/skit:
"Let's hit up Yahoo Maps to find the dopest route."
"I prefer Map Quest."
"That's a good one, too."
"Google Maps is the best."
"True that." "DOUBLE TRUE"
At any rate, I'll reserve judgment until after both Google and Apple announce their products
"Let's hit up Yahoo Maps to find the dopest route."
"I prefer Map Quest."
"That's a good one, too."
"Google Maps is the best."
"True that." "DOUBLE TRUE"
At any rate, I'll reserve judgment until after both Google and Apple announce their products
Yes, I'm sure they will, but I would assume that they will probably start off with the major American cities first, which are already the ones with the most recent maps. That's part of my concern. Does this mean that main cities in smaller countries are going to have to wait even longer for updated maps? I imagine that a lot of resources will be put into making the 3D maps.
Don't get me wrong, I really like google earth, but I just wish they would improve the accuracy of their maps before they add other stuff. It's great to see something in 3D, or to see what a city looked like in 1945, but what I really want to know is what it looks like today [or at least with the past year or two]. Road projects, railways, and commercial developments can change an area quite significantly in 4 or 5 years.
What I find odd that in all the 249 post before Me nobody mentioned that the map data used in google is not in fact theirs, it is licensed from other companies too.
And, if that is true than what prevents Apple from using those some companies in their own Maps App.
Also what I don't understand is that people complain about the inaccuracy of Google and non turn by turn directions, if you want that then just buy a navigation app, sells for as little as $20 and you prevent your phone from using a lot of wireless data.
Here's a screenshot from Google Maps.
And, if that is true than what prevents Apple from using those some companies in their own Maps App.
Also what I don't understand is that people complain about the inaccuracy of Google and non turn by turn directions, if you want that then just buy a navigation app, sells for as little as $20 and you prevent your phone from using a lot of wireless data.
Here's a screenshot from Google Maps.
