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Sigh, to those incorrectly claiming Google is evil and steals your information, lets remember Facebook. The company that has been investigated and questioned by various governments for it's ever changing and poor security, how it apparently owns your photos, your data, and it lets corporations scan your profile before you go for a job interview with them etc.
Now who was it that fully integrated Facebook into it's systems at an OS level? Thankfully Apple kept it as an option.

yeah but the difference is not that Apple copied its that it didn't seem like ohhh well Google announced one so now we have to also in the way this seems. It's just like when touch id came out. The next day Samsung was like me too. It's not oh here is our spin on the old idea.

So when Apple copies it's different to when anyone else copies then? Is that what you're stating? Don't try and make Apple out to be any different to anyone else as they are not.

For real! Apple not only tried to copy it but did an inferior job at it. Guess we'll find out if they fix it up in ios 8. The way Android handles notification is top notch. Clean, simple, actionable and efficient. In my mind a good notification drop down is the most important feature of a mobile os. Get me in and out quickly and keep me organized.

Agreed, although the way you can reply to SMS in iOS8 looks pretty cool.

Isn't that the point? Apple does something that has been done before and you cry about it for four years. The competition does it at least four or five times a year.

I don't cry, it's the fanboy's on here that cry whenever someone else does something Apple has announced, regardless if the other company started working on it years ago. What annoys is the people on here that attempt to make Apple out to be some sort of angel when it copies, yet when anyone else does it they are the devil. It's very sad to see and really is blind fanboyism, people should keep an open mind, it's healthier :)

You can jab back and fourth all you want. All comes down to how much money made form the platform.

My take on Android is it's consumer market is the biggest hoard of cheap bastards I have ever met. They don't want to pay for anything except their cell phone bill.

About the only way to make money off Android is in enterprise apps or selling your own Android devices. The rest of the Android market is table scraps.

What's that got to do with Apple copying? And considering Android has the majority worldwide market share I would say it's making plenty of money, as for cheap bastards hahaha er no, so according to you every single Android owner is a cheap? That's a bold claim considering Vertu, the mobile phone whose market is the super rich, is based on Android. So you are wrong with your point.
 
Or course, I love things to work well, but is that all you need to do?

There must be so many people that are paid to come into these forums and say things designed to bait people into stupid arguments, in the name of more clicks. I just can't believe the number of people that love to lurk here and bash Apple relentlessly... if you do not like them, do you really not have something better to do?
 
Google's messaging app is on par with iMessages.
Are they encrypted end to end so that not even Google can access them? Of course not, but iMessages are. iMessages wins.
Google's Maps are far superior to that of Apple's.
You must be talking about Apple Maps on day 1. Things have changed since then.
Google's search algorithms are vastly superior to that of Apple's, Microsoft's, and Yahoo's.
Are you saying Apple does search? That's news to me.
Google Docs and Sheets are better than Apple's Pages & Numbers in the cloud.
And again, are Google Docs encrypted so that Google has no way to access them like how Apple has no access to your iCloud data? No? Then iCloud/Pages/Numbers win.
 
Features from what seems to be Google Fit were shown in the preview of Android Wear released by Google over two months ago. At 47-50 seconds the woman gets a card showing calories burned after running.

Also the documentation for the Android Wear Developer Preview (put up around the same time as the video above) mentions the following: "A wide range of sensors is available to your applications, from accelerometers to heart rate monitors."

Google didn't suddenly decide to make Fit after seeing the couple of minutes Apple dedicated to HealthKit on their keynote less than two weeks ago. They have been working on this for a while.
 
Apple's POI implementation is downright embarrassing.

Maybe it's bad for others, but I keep hearing that, yet I can totally rely on it. The POIs have been fine for me except in one case, but the search to find the POIs tends to be very picky. It goes back to Google's superior search algorithms. The App Store search is also really bad. I was going to edit my post to list that as an advantage of Google Maps, but my Internet connection died out.

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Are you saying Apple does search? That's news to me.

And again, are Google Docs encrypted so that Google has no way to access them like how Apple has no access to your iCloud data? No? Then iCloud/Pages/Numbers win.

Apple does do search. Search on the App Store, in Maps, in Mail, on apple.com, and in various other areas. It never works well. Google Docs has way better collaboration features, and you really shouldn't use any web browser word processor if you're worried about data theft. I'd only use Pages in the browser to print Pages documents on Windows computers, which probably won't be an issue anymore. Android stinks, Google's PCs are useless, G+ is a molester, and Gmail cannot be trusted, so there's plenty of reason to use Apple products.

Guys, we're lucky that it's Apple vs Google and not so much Apple vs Microsoft. We've got two of the best companies competing.
 
I think it's generally a bad idea to store health-related information in the cloud - but Google would be VERY, VERY, VERY last company I'd choose to do so if I had to.

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Are they encrypted end to end so that not even Google can access them? Of course not, but iMessages are. iMessages wins.

From my own experience, iMessage isn't very reliable and doesn't exist on Android, which about 60% of the world's population uses. Any questions?
 
The truth is that every single person is in some kind of way a "Fan Boy" of something:

NBA, NFL, FIFA, MLS, NHL, etc... get the idea?

I hear you and it is rather annoying to read these post and the haters with their "fan boy" blah blah blah….. My q is, what is SO wrong with being a "fan boy" of Apple??? Like you said, we are all fan of something…………. maybe the haters are not, they're nothing perhaps.
 
You must be talking about Apple Maps on day 1. Things have changed since then.

Apple Maps constantly tries to kill me by sending me off the highway to a small dirt road that is used for service access to an overpass.
 
Apple Maps constantly tries to kill me by sending me off the highway to a small dirt road that is used for service access to an overpass.
Congratulations. You found a flaw in a massive system. Guess what: Google maps have flaws too. All maps have flaws - they're made by humans.

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From my own experience, iMessage isn't very reliable and doesn't exist on Android, which about 60% of the world's population uses. Any questions?
You do know we're talking about who's tracking users for the ability to spam them, right? The point is that Google's systems are not encrypted in a way that keeps Google from doing that, but Apple's are. So when people say that everyone does it (including Apple), they're wrong.

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Apple does do search. Search on the App Store, in Maps, in Mail, on apple.com, and in various other areas. It never works well. Google Docs has way better collaboration features, and you really shouldn't use any web browser word processor if you're worried about data theft.
First, Google (or anyone else) reading my documents for the purpose of targeting ads to me IS data theft.

Now, if you want to call search on the App store Search as compared to what Google, Yahoo, or DuckDuckGo do then I'm speechless. :confused:
 
EULA with Google??? LOL... Their business IS Data-mining...
The rest of their services provided are just to gather that data.

As you mentioned, it would be interesting to see what their EULA says.

Sorry. When I added the :roll eyes: emoticon in my original post I thought it would indicate I was being sarcastic. But obviously not so please read the :roll eyes: as /sarc.
 
I just find it very funny all the Apple fanboys are crying because Google "copied" them.

I guess this is the last ditch effort.

If google is copying because of Health what do you call iOS8 then?

That's a complete ripoff of Android.

New iPhones with 4.7 inch screens?

How about you all just go back 2 weeks ago and watch WWDC again and tell me who's really copying who.
 
You do know we're talking about who's tracking users for the ability to spam them, right? The point is that Google's systems are not encrypted in a way that keeps Google from doing that, but Apple's are. So when people say that everyone does it (including Apple), they're wrong.

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Are you sure about that? That's a serious question. I have privately stored recipes through iCloud and have received ads very accurately pertinent to the recipes I uploaded. Further on that I also had an issue where I'd upload documents and they would say complete but were only accessible on the iPhone but not through any other medium which never happened before. Called support and I never gave them my log in info (Just my name and email) and they were able to verify the placement on the server and fix the problem and I could do it. I just have a highly strong belief that Apple has access to anything in their ecosystem just as much as google.
 
Google Health video from 2010:


Rather similar in principle to what is being proposed to day. I personally think that neither Google nor Apple copied each other on this regard and that instead we are seeing both companies moving concurrently into wearables. Fitness tracking looks like it will be a huge part of that.
 
Google is a second hand store that continuously sells thrift store quality ideas that Apple has already successfully implemented into their ecosystem. Call it being a fanboy or whatever you want, the fact stands that nobody implements new ideas better than Apple.
 
Why is it a after thought for google every time ? Can't they come up with something original ? Freaking Copycats!!!

I really hate google for this (copying) i would stop using google search if i had a choice. Though i do like them as an Engineering company, but there marketing is just screwed up .. they are always the followers at what Apple makes. There marketing team should understand that Engineering is not just about a "me-too" product, it is about revolutionising the tech space.

Half of there (googles/Samsung) products are Apples Rumour Products, as if they always wanna make junk products just to say "Yup we were the first". Come on Samsung/Google grow-up.

While you're at it, stop using Notification Center, OTA Updates and Wireless Sync, Tabbed Browsing, Multitasking & Card-Based Multitask Management and Control Center. And stop opening apps from the lock screen. And boycott iOS 8 because of Actionable Notifications, Predictive Text, Widgets, Open Sharing and expanded file-type support on iCloud.

All features developed on Android and *ahem* copied into iOS.
 
Google is a second hand store that continuously sells thrift store quality ideas that Apple has already successfully implemented into their ecosystem. Call it being a fanboy or whatever you want, the fact stands that nobody implements new ideas better than Apple.

Sometimes I think that half of those comments are just Samsung paid comments
 
  1. That's wrong. If anything they're piggybacking off what Samsung has already done. They're not doing that either but it makes more sense that what you said.
  2. Exactly which services do you think Google copied?
  3. FUD. Which worse version of what?

Have you seen Android before the iPhone and after the iPhone? Or what about chrome OS? Introducing Google Now just after Siri has introduced? Or maybe getting some ''inspiration'' from jailbreak community?
 
Are you sure about that? That's a serious question. I have privately stored recipes through iCloud and have received ads very accurately pertinent to the recipes I uploaded. Further on that I also had an issue where I'd upload documents and they would say complete but were only accessible on the iPhone but not through any other medium which never happened before. Called support and I never gave them my log in info (Just my name and email) and they were able to verify the placement on the server and fix the problem and I could do it. I just have a highly strong belief that Apple has access to anything in their ecosystem just as much as google.

Yeap, of course they do, you pretty naive and dumb to ever think otherwise. All corporations have access to your data, it's just controlled access. You agree to it in the terms and conditions no one ever reads.
But this is for tech support, they don't farm your info, but they will use it to target ads at you, which again if you read those terms and conditions..... It's NOT data theft when YOU have given them permission to do that.
 
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