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I know tomorrow I'm going to get a few good laughs on the comments here if MacRumors post an article about the Google I/O.

Let's see the typical comments shall be along the lines of:

- *yawn*
- I thought this was MacRumors
- iPhone is still better
- LOL plastic phones LOL
- Android is lame and choppy
- Looks like the FanDroids are out today (in response to somebody posting that they like Google or dislike Apple)
- Google has no innovation, who needs widgets? Those same people will all of the sudden love widgets if Apple decides to put them into iOS
- Google steals your info and Apple doesn't
- Larry Paige/Eric Schmidt is evil, I hate them and won't use their products
- And we care because...?

Yea I think that about covers the typical anti-Google/Android comments around here. I know some will call me a troll or whatever, but it's true. And to show I'm not a troll, I'm sure FanDroids will be saying how much Apple sucks because they have shiny iToys. Both sides are annoying...yet funny :)

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With Spotify, you pay $10 a month to download a whole ton of songs for offline listening, without the need for an internet connection. And there are literally millions of songs to choose from, on demand.

A. "whole ton of songs for offline listening, without the need for an internet connection."

This requires an internet connection to download a lot of songs that take up space on your device.

B. "And there are literally millions of songs to choose from, on demand"


This too requires an internet connection.

I'm not in to any sort of monthly fee to pay for what I can listen to by other means for free.
 
Why is everyone gung ho on subscription services? I'd rather own my music than succumb to the pricing models of these sites that you have to keep a membership on.

Even though I have a reasonably large collection of purchased iTunes music, I always tend to listen to streaming radio stations through AppleTV. I'm sure this wave of streaming services is simply meant to capitalize on that. Collect money for something that has been free, and add some value in exchange. I'm holding out for iRadio in hopes that it will transform radio station listening.
 
I know tomorrow I'm going to get a few good laughs on the comments here if MacRumors post an article about the Google I/O.

Let's see the typical comments shall be along the lines of:

- *yawn*
- I thought this was MacRumors
- iPhone is still better
- LOL plastic phones LOL
- Android is lame and choppy
- Looks like the FanDroids are out today (in response to somebody posting that they like Google or dislike Apple)
- Google has no innovation, who needs widgets? Those same people will all of the sudden love widgets if Apple decides to put them into iOS
- Google steals your info and Apple doesn't
- Larry Paige/Eric Schmidt is evil, I hate them and won't use their products
- And we care because...?

Yea I think that about covers the typical anti-Google/Android comments around here. I know some will call me a troll or whatever, but it's true. And to show I'm not a troll, I'm sure FanDroids will be saying how much Apple sucks because they have shiny iToys. Both sides are annoying...yet funny :)

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You left out "And be forced to see and hear a ton of ads when playing MY music - no thanks"
 
Apple's media services work for many many countries all over the world. Music, movies, books, iTunes match, probably everything... Google music is US only, while Apple will most probably roll out such a service worldwide at once, or at least wihout great delays. That sounds like a big advantage to me.
 
I can't wait for I/O tomorrow, Android is a great OS, happy to see how it can evolve! However when I look for Android news, I go on Android Police...I would like if MacRumors kept to Apple stuff, and left the other news for the other Android sites.
 
Why is everyone gung ho on subscription services? I'd rather own my music than succumb to the pricing models of these sites that you have to keep a membership on. The music is mine. I bought it, I own it, period. That's my right. I enjoy streaming audio through the likes of Spotify, Slacker and Pandora but if I want to buy music to keep for later in a library these apps offer me that capability to buy it outright, and that's as they should keep it. I can always go back to offline and listen to it (ever hear of no cell service when listening to a subscription service while driving?), then that's my prerogative as well.

Did anyone happen to notice that the as-yet-to-be-named subscription service they're talking about is going to compete with a similar service offered by YouTube? It's just another way that Google can pilfer cash from people, and both services will end up competing with each other, eventually to fall dead in the water just like every other subscription service that has tried to work and keep its members.

I'll wait and see if this is going to be very successful. Googlers will rejoice but I'll hold off on any further laudible praise unless they can prove it's worth. I think this will be another service they'll shut down in no less than 2 years just like half the other projects they've killed that had promise.
When you "buy" music on iTunes, you don't take ownership of the song, you're given a license to play that song on iTunes (or however else the EULA states)
 
The life expectancy of a Google project/hobby is less than a year and a half. Can't trust them and won't waste my time with them.

You're completely right... Because this huge project involving multimillion dollar deals with the top companies in the music industry is exactly like those projects cooked up by Google employees in their spare time. :rolleyes:
 
Apple's media services work for many many countries all over the world. Music, movies, books, iTunes match, probably everything... Google music is US only, while Apple will most probably roll out such a service worldwide at once, or at least wihout great delays. That sounds like a big advantage to me.

Having No Streaming Service sounds like a big advantage? Odd Comment.

Google has the music labels now signed if you believe rumors.

Do you think they would limit it to just the US now that they have the music labels?

I guess we won't know until tomorrow but I'd guess that is all going to change tomorrow.

YouTube paid channels are now available outside of the US.

MLB is online

http://gigaom.com/2013/04/29/mlb-youtube-live-stream/
 
How is this better than Spotify? Just because is coming from Google and anything Google does these days is automatically considered awesome?
 
You left out "And be forced to see and hear a ton of ads when playing MY music - no thanks"

You seem to be claiming Google will hit people with ads even though its a paid service. Based on what exactly? And its a streaming service so its not your music.

Also ... In their Google Music service where it IS your music AND free you are not forced to listen to ads.
 
You seem to be claiming Google will hit people with ads even though its a paid service. Based on what exactly? And its a streaming service so its not your music.

Also ... In their Google Music service where it IS your music AND free you are not forced to listen to ads.

perhaps you missed my sarcasm. And the post I was replying on top of - which was also sarcasm/mocking.
 
How can such a huge company like Google complete these negotiations which would seem to me to be inherently more damaging to the music labels, but Apple (a supposed negotation guru) is unable to create a simple pandora-like radio?

How on earth would it be damaging to music labels?

$10 per month (per person) is an astronomical sum of money spent on music. The average person doesn't spend anywhere near that (especially in the age of piracy). If Google/Spotify/Rdio/Deezer/Microsoft and the rest can sign up enough people, this will be an absolute goldmine for the record labels.

And the best part is, the labels retain ownership of all their songs. You stop paying, you lose access to all of your music.
 
How can such a huge company like Google complete these negotiations which would seem to me to be inherently more damaging to the music labels, but Apple (a supposed negotation guru) is unable to create a simple pandora-like radio?

Because Apple like the squeeze its partners on the fees. They initially offered the studios half the rate of Pandora. After intense balking, they upped the offer to equal rate. With its cash in the bank, do you think any of those studios will accept a compromise deal with Apple, when so many alternatives exist? Apple still lives in the delusion of its iTunes deal with the records. The market was terrible back then and Apple offered the only viable and popular solution. Now it's not the same anymore.

And there are other deals being dragged on to, not just iRadio: China Mobile, iTV (also about content producers while Netflix has had them for ages).
 
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Unlike Spotify, the advantage Google has is they can offer purchasing and subscription options. It will be interesting if they can integrate your current library with the streaming option. This would be good for people to discover music and still be able to own their music for eternity.

Why would you ever want to own a compressed MP3? Now that is something that has never made a lick of sense to me. At least buy the CD so you can get it in lossless quality.
 
Because Apple like the squeeze its partners on the fees. They initially offered the studios half the rate of Pandora. After intense balking, they upped the offer to equal rate. With its cash in the bank, do you think any of those studios will accept a compromise deal with Apple, when so many alternatives exist? Apple still lives in the delusion of its iTunes deal with the records. The market was terrible back then and Apple offered the only viable and popular solution. Now it's not the same anymore.

And there are other deals being dragged on to, not just iRadio: China Mobile, iTV (also about content producers while Netflix has had them for ages).
All of this is unconfirmed rumors. Someone on the Verge had a good post about why Apple negotiations would be more difficult.

http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/14/4331110/google-lands-universal-music-sony-for-spotify-competitor
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Apple is the biggest player in digital music sales. They obviously are going to have a different set of challenges trying to get deals made with record labels simply because when they get into the subscription/streaming game it will very possibly be the end of digital music sales as we know them today. The record labels are going to be way more careful and demanding making a deal with Apple than they would be with smaller players in streaming/subscription simply due to the ramifications of such a deal. What happens if Apple quickly turns 100 million+ buyers into subscribers? That will have a massive impact on the music industry. On the other end of that equation for customers it’s not very good if Apple gives into all the demands of the record labels either just to get a deal done.
 
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