No. I mean - the rumor seems credible enough. Not where it's been reported. Having been at the table for negotiations when it comes to licensing - $ is quite often the sticking point. Could it be something else? Of course. What do you think Google is offering that Apple hasn't then?
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No. I mean - the rumor seems credible enough. Not where it's been reported. Having been at the table for negotiations when it comes to licensing - $ is quite often the sticking point. Could it be something else? Of course. What do you think Google is offering that Apple hasn't then?
1. ITunes store was US only upon release... As is almost always the case in products involving regional rights of media.
2. Google music is US only is it? Interesting...
https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/1114577?hl=en
But thanks for the factual and well researched post.
Why? Because not everybody wants to buy a whole CD or play lossless files. No one is forcing you to buy music online.
That post you references forgets one thing. Those buying on iTunes can just as easily go to Google or Spotify or others instead of buying music on iTunes. Yet that hasn't happened. So while a possibility - I wouldn't put much weight into that opinion because record companies don't work that way. They aren't going to not care as much about company x vs company y. Not only to avoid setting a precedent - but because failing to negotiate good terms with a company that might seem "small" now could backfire instantly after launch.
Same endgame for whatever company they partner with. So it makes sense to negotiate as if each partner poses the same potential "damage" into sales.
I have no idea. Also for all we know an Apple subscription service could be announced at WWDC.
Also why do you think the rumors "seem credible enough". Because we should be predisposed to believe Apple is stingy and wants to screw over the record labels?
When the WSJ runs it, it has a high likelihood of being true. At any rate, Apple's initial offer of half the prevailing rate was insulting to the studios at least. If I was Universal / Sony / Time Warner, I will throw a book at the rep.
And it's not only music: it's hard to become an iPhone carrier, a Mac reseller, an iPad reseller, etc.
I agree in a sense but Apple probably is ahead of the curve when it comes to music service. iTunes has been #1 provider for how many years now. I think with Apple it is a matter of royalty payout. I'm happy Google is doing this because it definitely puts the pressure on Apple to have a service that works like no other. Like you said consumers have a choice and this should be great for the times coming...
because apple wants to give the companies virtually no money where as google would agree most likely from the start to a better deal. Apple are greedy as hell when it comes to these things and feel like they own everything.
I was under the impression Apple was losing the narrative, but now I officially believe it. I can't believe how asleep at the wheel this once great company has become. Everyone, and I mean everyone is outclassing, out hyping, out doing Apple on the world stage.
What happened to this company? What do all those employees with all those hundreds billions of dollars do? It would appear they've been put in a sleep hold. Not longer at the tip of the arrow it's sad and shocking really.
What happened to this company? What do all those employees with all those hundreds billions of dollars do? It would appear they've been put in a sleep hold. Not longer at the tip of the arrow it's sad and shocking really.
Except that Google doesn't do things for consumers.. the only thing they care about is selling you to the highest bidder.
Google coming out with something has *never* been good for the consumer.
Another unsubstantiated "Apple is finished" rant?
They are not asleep at the wheel. They don't do half assed deals. I'd be surprised if Google has signed all the record labels.
If it's just like Spotify, it will be a dud. People already know Spotify and what they do, and by and large they're really happy with it.
Google is doing it for the wrong reasons. They believe that iTunes is a big source of the iPhone's power with consumers, and that they need a service that can do all that iTunes can and more and they'll win smartphones.
That's why they did Google Music; basically a music-only DropBox (uhum, Google Drive, then). Then Apple promptly trumped them with iTunes Match, and they had to start the photocopiers running again. Google's initial solution was dumb. Apple's solution seemed to 'get' music listeners a bit better.
Apple do seem to get music. Google just wants Android to gain a Windows-like dominance of smartphones so badly they come up with all kinds of dumb, unimaginative solutions.
That won't be all that's announced at I/O, though. There's a Google Maps redesign coming that looks eerily similar to Apple's Maps.
Google is doing it for the wrong reasons. They believe that iTunes is a big source of the iPhone's power with consumers, and that they need a service that can do all that iTunes can and more and they'll win smartphones.
That's why they did Google Music; basically a music-only DropBox (uhum, Google Drive, then). Then Apple promptly trumped them with iTunes Match, and they had to start the photocopiers running again. Google's initial solution was dumb. Apple's solution seemed to 'get' music listeners a bit better.
Apple do seem to get music. Google just wants Android to gain a Windows-like dominance of smartphones so badly they come up with all kinds of dumb, unimaginative solutions.
That won't be all that's announced at I/O, though. There's a Google Maps redesign coming that looks eerily similar to Apple's Maps.
It seems credible enough for the reason I stated above. I've been at negotiations when it comes to licensing. Not Apple's - but other deals. And given Apple's history when it comes to negotiations (something which you seem to think I am posing as a negative as opposed to Apple trying to maximize profits as if that's a bad business move) Apple has played that tune before.
ETA - You're adding the commentary about being stingy and screwing over labels. Where did I post such rheteoric? I said "Because Apple was trying to get a cheaper price and undercut the going rate?"
Google sell music in about 12 countries. They are a minnow compared to Apple.
If Google launch the streaming service in even 2 countries I would be surprised.
I don't know if it's a bad move - even if they don't grab spotify's customers. There are still plenty of people who don't subscribe currently for whatever reason.
And Google (like Apple and Amazon) know it's about the ecosystem and giving people sticking points. This is another sticking point, no? If you're into Google's ecosystem - why not also use their integrated streaming music platform instead of a 3rd party. Yes - there are reasons, of course. But for some - they like a one stop shop.
Google Docs
Google Search
Google Maps
Google Maps for IOS
Google Translate
Google NOW
etc.
etc.
etc.
They're knocking it out the park, man...
Apple's not finished. Just being pushed to the back of the pack. And it is a pack.
Google Docs = Analyzing your words
Google Search = Analyzing your thoughts
Google Maps = Analyzing your location
Google Translate = Analyzing your conversations
Google NOW = Analyzing your entire being
Maybe if this was a free service, put the rumour is that there specifically won't be one.
The fact that you need to pay, and that Google has a habit of forgetting about and then dropping projects like this just makes it a really difficult sell (based on what we know).
We'll find out tomorrow.
It seems good for the users of Android and possibly iOS.
Google Music Match is Free up to 20,000 songs and Apple is and always has been a paid matching subscription.
Google Maps are always evolving. Heck, there's an upgrade to Google Maps on Android every other week. Google also covers much more of the world than Apple. Google for the most part gives users the correct driving directions and suggested local points of interest.
Google has given more to iOS in 2012 than Apple has since 2007. That's opinion of course.
Apples stock is down considerably. Google is at an all time high.
Google i/o starts tomorrow so I would suspect Apple will be down again tomorrow after the tank today and Google will be up.
But hey, all of this is just rumor until tomorrow.
I don't see how any of those examples = "knocking it out of the park".
Google Maps for iOS is pretty much non-functional (no contacts support, no history, horrible turn by turn), Google Translate is gimmicky, Google Now is also gimmicky (and was pretty much stale after 15 minutes of using it).