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If it's not music I own, I can just listen to the radio.
If it is music I own, I want to be able to listen to it independent of whether or not I have an internet connection.

I don't understand the fascination with streaming music.

I completely agree with you. You could not have said it any better!
 
That's how you justify taking jabs at Google?

It offers more than the core OS.

1 - The statuses are shared across the network, which is quite useful if you run a computer lab with hundreds of wireless devices.
2 - It makes predictions about death dates and keeps track of when batteries were replaced. Knowing your battery is going to die in 3 days is more useful than knowing it's at 10% (for example. It monitors your usage patterns. Some users get by with a single set of batteries for a year. Others burn through batteries every other week.)

My next project is going to involve a web service so I'm planning on purchasing some web real estate and migrating away from a Google Site soon - I set up my site there before I had any money to fund my projects with.

Your original quote was
I don't understand all these "Me too!" services...

There are 1000's of apps that do what your app does but your 37 reviews are pretty good.

My Bluetooth keyboard, mouse and my Samsung phone notify me well before I need to replace the batteries (which I can do myself and iPhone's can't).

So you're using Google services and slamming them and have your family photos on their services

https://sites.google.com/site/websiteforthefamily/

So you are using Google services, making an app that isn't Google and using Google to support your app and family photos.

Wow... What's up with all of these me too services on iOS that duplicate what has already been done?

But you are following Apple's upgrade cycle. Your app hasn't August 13th of 2012.

Consider developing for Google Play.
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=battery+status&c=apps

They have a lot more apps that are me too apps with a lot more hits.

Maybe you can afford to move your tech support site and family photos off the site you prefer to chastise.

I see by your posting your are also supporting Skype (Microsoft). That's free as well.

Can you be any more hypocritical? My guess is you will be logged into Google i/o and see what other "Free" services they're going to offer that you can slam.

But who am I to judge? You have 37 great friends that gave your little app a good review.
 
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These streaming music services with subscription remind me rent a car services. Why anyone wouldn't rather owe the music, I don't know. But I know that I would not go for any Spotify, Pandora or whatever else comes along. I pick songs I like, buy them and have them mine to listen to whenever I want.
 
I completely agree with you. You could not have said it any better!

You do realize you can download music to your device with Google Play for Free and listen to it when you want to without an internet connection don't you?

Sort of mutes your point.
 
Google Radio, let me guess, another Internet Radio application that is going to sell your personal information and play lots of advertising.
 
Yes Apple, that´s how you do it. iRadio is dead before it even started.

If iRadio doesn´t offer anything special that is worth it´s use, don´t even offer it at all.

Google is capturing more of the worldwide market, every day, while you are greedy as **** and because of that aren´t even able to come to an agreement with the record companies. Sad story.

u mad, bro?

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At least Balmer turned a YoY profit for Microsoft.

apples the most profitable mobile and PC maker, reaping the lions share in both industries. and they had a 14% earnings growth. they are doing better than Microsoft.
 
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because apple wants to give the companies virtually no money where as google would agree most likely from the start to a better deal. Apple are greedy as hell when it comes to these things and feel like they own everything.

nice story, dude. when did you get inside the minds of apple execs?

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I was under the impression Apple was losing the narrative, but now I officially believe it. I can't believe how asleep at the wheel this once great company has become. Everyone, and I mean everyone is outclassing, out hyping, out doing Apple on the world stage.

what fantasy. nobody is out classing apple, nor out performing at the global level -- especially since google and amazon can't sell in nearly as many countries as iTunes.

but I'll give you that others are out hyping.

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Google Docs
Google Search
Google Maps
Google Maps for IOS
Google Translate
Google NOW
etc.
etc.
etc.

They're knocking it out the park, man...

Apple's not finished. Just being pushed to the back of the pack. And it is a pack.

omg...if google docs is out of your park, I don't want to step foot in it!

sorry but apple is still the leader of the pack. the others follow its every product move and step. clone, clone, clone.

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Why are you so seemingly angry? That's how you're coming across. There's a simple solution for you. Don't use Google services including this new streaming service.

he doesn't come across angry at all. he's stating, in simple programmer terms, that rumor is not fact. that is a fact.
 
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These streaming music services with subscription remind me rent a car services. Why anyone wouldn't rather owe the music, I don't know. But I know that I would not go for any Spotify, Pandora or whatever else comes along. I pick songs I like, buy them and have them mine to listen to whenever I want.

Well, first of all pandora is free. Hard to beat free... But I am curious, do you use Netflix or have cable at home? (I realize I just opened myself up to you proclaiming "no" whether you actually do it not, but I'm a trusting guy). Essentially this is the same thing, just different media. I get enough from pandora and iheartradio that I have no reason to subscribe to anything. The tracks I know I like I will buy. Usually that's well under $10 a month, which is the cost of subscription services. I'd probably try some subscription services if they let you keep a few tracks each month like Zune pass (which I never did use) used to.
 
omg...if google docs is out of your park, I don't want to step foot in it!

sorry but apple is still the leader of the pack. the others follow it's every product move and step. clone, clone, clone.

You say it's a bunch of clones, yet none of the examples you were given, minus maps (which came out long before Apple made anything maps related), are actually offered by apple. We can all have opinions, but your statement isn't even an opinion. It's just wrong.

The part that was opinion is implying google docs is terrible. That's fair. And I respect that. I assume you've never edited a paper or spreadsheet with a few people all in different buildings (maybe even states or countries) simultaneously? It's a pretty powerful tool, quite frankly, not to mention a free one. Quite frankly, it's googles services that I love more than anything else. They can be used on any virtually any device, anywhere, and again, mostly for free! I can't say there any other companies fit that criteria. Not even close.

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Welcome to the new mantra

"It just works" and "Steve would never do that" got overused, huh? :(
 
If you think you "own" your music when you purchase digital, jokes on you. So have fun buying CDs, in reality the cost of 1 cd is that of a huge streaming music library that incudes new releases. Seems like a simple choice, price isnt even comparable, even if you are worried about music ownership. A problem that doesn't even really exist, because for 999 out of 1000 people, it is meaningless. Take off your tin foil hat.

Really because I can burn it to a CD and then play it on any CD player.. So yes I own it when I can burn it to a CD or copy it to USB HDD and my digital music can be played in other players other then just iTunes.. So I think the joke is on you...
 
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RIAA 2012 #

Streaming: $1,032.8 million USD (up 59%)
Singles Download: $1,623.6 million USD (up 6.7%)
Album Download: $1,204.8 million USD (up 12.5%)
Physical CD Album: $2,532 million USD (down 18.3%)

Spotify growth:

January, 2010:------------ 250,000 paying subscribers
March 17, 2010:----------- 320,000
July 20, 2010: ---------------- 500,000
December 8, 2010: ------ 750,000
March 8, 2011:--------------- 1,000,000
July 14, 2011: -----------------1,600,000
Sept 21, 2011: ---------------- 2,000,000
Nov 23, 2011: ------------------2,500,000
Jan 26, 2012: -------------------3,000,000
July 31, 2012:--------------------4,000,000
Dec 6, 2012: ---------------------5,000,000
March 12, 2013:------------------6,000,000
May 15, 2013:--------------------more than 6,500,000 paying subscribers
 
Apple will adopt a pay-for-listening scheme. Everyone will start with a set amount of credits, say 360 minutes. Every second will be deducted when iistening to music irrespective of whether it's iRadio or a specific album (spotify like).

But, if you enjoy an album and would like to add it to your playlist, it must be purchased ala iTunes. This will give you unlimited non-internet play. Also listening credit with be added to your account for each song or album purchased.

Obviously if you run out of listening credit more can be purchased or you could buy an album and earn recharge credits.
 
At the current rate of growth, Streaming Revenue in the USA will be greater than Single Digital Download Revenue in the USA in about 8 months.

Year to date track sales are at 482.49 million, down 3% compared to the same total at this point last year (495.40 million).


http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/permalink/2013/20130327streamingbillion#TNHkBIsGVMmoIp2Xklr6mQ

Streaming Revenue 2012: $1,032.8 million USD (up 59%)
Singles Digital Download Revenue 2012: $1,623.6 million USD (up 6.7%)

At the current 59% growth rate, Streaming Revenue for 2013 in the usa will be at $1,642 million.
At the current -3% growth rate, Singles Download Revenue for 2013 in the USA will be at $1,575 million.



The rise of smartphone is ideal for music streaming. Its growth has been phenomenal.

Streaming Revenue 2011 (USA): $649.6 million USD
Streaming Revenue 2012 (USA): $1,032.8 million USD (up 59%)
Streaming Revenue 2013 (USA): ???
Streaming Revenue 2014 (USA): ???

Streaming Revenue in the USA is poised to cross the $2 billion a year mark in 12-15 months time.
 
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A. "whole ton of songs for offline listening, without the need for an internet connection."

This requires an internet connection to download a lot of songs that take up space on your device.

B. "And there are literally millions of songs to choose from, on demand"


This too requires an internet connection.

I'm not in to any sort of monthly fee to pay for what I can listen to by other means for free.

How are listening to all of these songs for free without the internet? Radio?:confused:
 
Yes Apple, that´s how you do it. iRadio is dead before it even started.

If iRadio doesn´t offer anything special that is worth it´s use, don´t even offer it at all.

Google is capturing more of the worldwide market, every day, while you are greedy as **** and because of that aren´t even able to come to an agreement with the record companies. Sad story.

Not so sure. Apple is trying to something different with iRadio, not just copy Spotify. I'm not claiming it's going to be better, we'll just have to wait and see.

The thing is, you can shower Spotify, rdio and now Google Music in as much glory as you want, but the fact remains that even after years, iTunes is still at the top for Music. Google Music will mainly compete with Spotify, not iTunes.
 
Unlike Spotify, the advantage Google has is they can offer purchasing and subscription options. It will be interesting if they can integrate your current library with the streaming option. This would be good for people to discover music and still be able to own their music for eternity.

Only takes me a matter of seconds, to purchase a track on iTunes after hearing it on Spotify.

Spotify isn't free.

It depend's when you joined, or the level of service you are happy with, but my account is free.

I have no issues with a new Google service, as competition is healthy for consumers. Although saying that, it is unlikely that I will use it in the near future either.
 
Streaming Revenue 2012 (USA): $1,032.8 million USD (up 59%)

That's a lot of revenue... but are these streaming services actually making money?

I thought the big problem with streaming is that the labels (the companies who own the content) are charging outrageous licensing fees to use their content.

$1.0 billion in revenue sounds great... until you realize it costs $1.2 billion to run the service.
 
Nonsense; there are plenty of apps that look better or do email better than Gmail (how is the Gmail app still so painfully slow with no text proportion?) or actually integrate into the iPhone contacts, unlike Google Maps...

The only thing that Google Maps has over Apple Maps is a 10 year head start on data but it's already getting better. Heck, the rest of the app is superior to Google Maps in every way.

It really isn't.

And I like the way you say "only" a 10 year head start on data.

Apple's improvements on app data in the UK are going backwards, not forwards.

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Not so sure. Apple is trying to something different with iRadio, not just copy Spotify. I'm not claiming it's going to be better, we'll just have to wait and see.

Yeah, but the problem is that they're trying to copy Pandora, which is dying in the face of Spotify.

It's like trying to argue it's fine if Apple copies Symbian rather than Android. Copying is fine in many cases if you copy something good. If you copy something that's dead or dying then that's just dumb.
 
Well, first of all pandora is free. Hard to beat free... But I am curious, do you use Netflix or have cable at home? (I realize I just opened myself up to you proclaiming "no" whether you actually do it not, but I'm a trusting guy). Essentially this is the same thing, just different media. I get enough from pandora and iheartradio that I have no reason to subscribe to anything. The tracks I know I like I will buy. Usually that's well under $10 a month, which is the cost of subscription services. I'd probably try some subscription services if they let you keep a few tracks each month like Zune pass (which I never did use) used to.

Yes, i use Netflix and I like it. The difference I personally see is that with Netflix I use it through Apple TV meaning that i stream from an unlimited home broadband and not use my mobile data! It works better with Netflix as movies usually are expensive to buy on Blue Ray or a digital format from iTunes. Songs on the other hand take only around 3.5mb space and cost as little as 69P (maybe even less)

Wasn't aware pandora is free. Is that a radio service (on wich case I would be absolutely not interested) or is a streaming music library?
 
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