That's a really good idea, I never thought of installing Hangouts. Thanks for the tip!
Google Unveils Pixel 2 Smartphone, Pixelbook, and Two New Google Home Speakers
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That's a really good idea, I never thought of installing Hangouts. Thanks for the tip!
Rogifan
macrumors Penryn
So Nilay did write about Google removing the headphone jack on the Pixel but it still seems as though Google gets graded on a curve (this article is just as much about Apple as Google). I guess that’s what happens when you get exclusives, you just become long-form advertising which is what The Verge is now.
https://www.theverge.com/2017/10/5/16426754/pixel-2-headphone-jack-bluetooth-walled-garden
https://www.theverge.com/2017/10/5/16426754/pixel-2-headphone-jack-bluetooth-walled-garden
farewelwilliams
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when you have 3 devices that have paired with the bluetooth and you need to switch between the three, that's where the flow breaks down.
Either device #1 and #2 are connected and you want to use device #3 which means you need to manually pair #3 again, or manually disconnect device #1 so that #3 auto connects. And let's just hope that device #2 isn't taking priority or else you need to manually disconnect device #2 as well.
rGiskard
macrumors 68000
But the tele doesn't produce better results than simply cropping a Pixel 2 camera pic.
fairuz
macrumors 68020
Eh, it's crap. I use it at work. Good feature set, but it drops during calls, runs 100% CPU*, etc. Unrelated, there's a strangely unintuitive interface for calling people. Greatly prefer FaceTime; Hangouts could be good but needs to mature.
* only in the web version, not the iOS app, it seems
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I don't know why, but Bluetooth still doesn't work right in 2017. I gave up on it years ago and thought they'd fixed the pairing by now, but apparently not. Something goes wrong at every edge case. I doubt it's the standard but rather the bad implementations of it, or maybe the standard makes things confusing for devs and causes bugs like that (see: XMPP).
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jamesrick80
macrumors 68030
Then maybe you are better off using Facebook messaging since its everywhere.
tongxinshe
macrumors 65816
The instant translate feature itself, in Google Pixel Bud, already worth more than that $159 price tag!
No, I was talking about the front surface fully covered in fabric which original Home didn't have. Pretty obvious IMO. Yes, everyone knows how speakers look, but first Echo and Home had different unique design (unlike HomePod which looks like a generic speaker), but now they altered it in the style of your speakers and I believe the reason might be the HomePod. Is it clear now?
ginkobiloba
macrumors 6502a
I’ll Take IBM any day over Google and their almost fascist/political ideology that’s getting even more frightening than the most dystopian sci-fi films.
In fact, Apple should really get in bed wth IBM, get more involved than their recent corporate deals of getting iOS in enterprises. They both have something than the other need, it would be a real win-win for them.
Deep corporate kmowledge, advanced AI research, networking, etc... on IBM side, and consumer clout, knowledge on how to create great human user experiece, great soft/hardware integration on the Apple side..
Au revoir Siri, here comes Watson.
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Abazigal
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Doubt so.
It’s simply not feasible to offer great speaker quality at that cheap a price point. When you look at the amazon echo, it’s purpose is clear - as a means of delivering a smart assistant to your home and collect your data. This makes sense for amazon and google but not for Apple, since that’s not Apple's business model.
Doubt so. This instant translation feature will likely be a very niche and specialised feature. No doubt it’s cool and uses a lot of AI processing in the background, but I just don’t see most people using this feature on a regular basis.
I don't know. I like it. The back has a kind of Ikea chic.
The fingerprint sensor is much better positioned than on the Samsung S8. I also like the thin display bezels on the big one better than The Notch.
Burger Thing
macrumors 65816
I think you should not get your negativity about The Verge (you certainly are very opinionated about them, checking your posting history) into the way. In that article he was quite clear that he didn’t like the fact that the jack was removed. Just like when Apple did it. Or how could he ever concluded the article with And that... is pretty user-hostile and stupid
Did you actually read the article at all?
The Verge has like many techsites different writers. This Vlad guy seems to think somehow the removal of the jack was justified according to another article.
Astonishing though that this thread is running so long. A thread about niche products and vaporware, at best demos of a technological platform. For most people around the world the products are not even orderable. As a competitor for specific products (phone, speakers, etc) Google is therefor irrelevant in the grand scheme of things to Apple. Which is a shame, because competition is good.
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Rum_Becker
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Nope that's not what you said.
You mention fabric, which the Google home had first covering the speaker part just like the home max and mini, nice try though.
This first Google home was never suppose to be a great audio device, it was made to more or less beta test the concept of a Google Assistant device. This is evident with the rapid release of fetures on an almost weekly basis. With the functionality of the Google home software almost complete, Google is now making a high performance version, no one wants to beta test a 400$ speaker.
lordofthereef
macrumors G5
I always felt the verge leaned more Apple than google anyway lol.
Agree with everything you’ve said though.
fairuz
macrumors 68020
I do, but it's not good for video calls. Or IDK if it can even do them.
Have you read anywhere about how big the Buds case is in comparison to the Airpods? The convenience of being able to carry AirPods everywhere without taking up much pocket space is a huge factor for me. I wonder how much larger the Google Buds case is.
Duo is nicer, and now it has a good web client too. Also WhatsApp is pretty good.It also has a desktop client so you can see the messages from your phone when you’re sitting down at your computer.
That's what I meant. You didn't get it.
When I wrote my first comment I was sure someone will reply something like what you have replied. At times I just want to restrain from comments because I can see such outcome and I don't want to explain and expand every single word so the last kid on Earth will understand me. You tried to be smart and funny but instead it was boring and predictable. If you politely asked why I do think so, I would explain it and we could discuss it, but you preferred the different way.
As @trusso said recently "You find a bunch of people who simply enjoy making smart-ass remarks with nothing to back them up. As a cultural phenomena, that needs to stop."
Google surely could make their earbuds and speaker cheaper than Apple (and that makes a lot of sense), but it seems Google wants to enter and co-create some elite niche market alongside Apple with higher prices. I don't think new Home Max have SO much more hardware than the usual Home that it justifies such price. It's just marketing.
Brien
macrumors 68040
Hope you’re wrong. I could care less about audio quality, I just want something other than my phone(s) that I can ‘Hey, Siri’ to.
Rum_Becker
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I did not get it because that is not what you said, lol. Even if that is not what you meant, you would still be wrong as the look and feel of the devices are completely different, lol
Smart ass comment in reply to a stupid statement as Google used fabric for their speakers first. Google did not Copy Apple in any way, google had the speaker first, fabric first and the Home max looks nothing like the home pod. One looks like a speaker (google home max) and the home pod looks like a Mac pro.
Your reasoning is completely laughable keep it up!!!
Nothing to back it besides your own statement where you said that google copied apple by using fabric. lol
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I agree, I'm going to pick up a bunch of mini's at christmas just for the assistant. Going to give them to the kids and to the nieces and nephews. It has made my christmas shopping really easy this year.
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