I don't know; I think I would be more amped about Android if Google was actually building the hardware as well. I just think it's kind of weird to run this OS on diff phones (yeah I know, it's like WM). Kinda like OSX to me - I wouldn't run it on a dell.
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I think you and others have made a good point here about user responsibility. Having said that, I would still argue that the majority of people tend to trust, point, and click. This is evidenced by the rampant "anti-virus" industry and the amount of work the average windows user puts into keeping his/her machine working smoothly.
My point here is that if Android is to be a success with the masses, it will be subject to the mass mentality, and that tends to be "click and install everything". I don't think that the people here and in the open source community fall into that category, but they are few and far between compared to the average user.
I trust google to put out a good product and they most certainly are thorough. However, without some safeguards on app distribution, I still think they are asking for trouble.
Your knee jerk reaction is just as silly as what you protest. Apple being somewhat arbitrary with what does and does not go onto the store is silly. But just allowing anyone to put anything up on the marketplace for an innumerable set of hardware configurations is just asking for trouble, especially when it is something as vital as a phone. People were flipping out when iPhone OS 2.0 brought the cell network to its knees (there were other factors too, obviously). What do you think is going to happen when you make the OS an anarchy (at best an anarchy, we all know from the year of linux on the desktop what this will really turn into)?
Anyway, I see this as competing with WinMo. Palm is basically dead (pushed their OS back to late 2009 now). No way will this kill RIM (even Apple hasn't). And it may put a small dent in Apple but it won't be significant. Android is being marketed as a platform for cell phone companies to use to ditch Microsoft. Why do you think it was announced so far ahead of an actual phone being launched?
That is quite possibly the ugliest god damn phone/OS system I have ever seen... and the whole thing is a horrible idea. It's gonna fail miserably!
I welcome this as competition fuels development, and honestly I hope Google is successful with this. I hope it catches Apple and make them step up their game, not that I'm not happy with my iPhone but just remember, the biggest room in the world is room for improvement.
"No, baby, it's an iPod Touch. Go ahead, scroll through my playlist. Use both fingers, baby. It's multitouch."
Agreed, that is their biggest strength. People stuck with Verizon and Sprint now have something to look forward to.
One of the particularly successful iPhone developers, however, is staying away from Android. Steve Demeter who made headlines last week for having made $250,000 in sales of his iPhone game Trism told AlleyInsider that the availability of multiple handset models could introduce more headaches than its worth:Instead, Demeter has been hiring and is working on 5 more iPhone games.
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how much did Demeter get paid by apple to say that?!
and what is going to stop security issues if there is no approval process for apps. i don't agree with apple's approval process in certain cases but at least i know an app isn't going to crash my phone and steal my personal info
To all the people thinking developing for more then one device will be hard, needs to get out in the real world, same goes for oh noes open app development will cause problems.
Symbian S60 and UIQ have many many hand sets and none of the the apps i have ever purchased or downloaded have been shoddy or full of evil viruses and spyware. Shady and dodgy apps dont live long on good app download sites, its just how non apple centric mobile software markets work, the internets is full of em. Computer app developers develop apps that run on systems with far more variation then moblie devs do. Unless the compy is ancient or has some sort of issue, Adobe apps all run pretty uniform across what ever OS/hardware you run them on, same with pretty much every other production app i have used, the excuses of multi platforms/hardware configs hinders stability is a line of BS used by lazy developers.
As long as google does not go around killing apps that get developed for being trivial and or competitive with apple products such as mail or itunes, android could be a big hit with people that want an open development platform.
And as for big, the iphone isnt exactly a small phone
Symbian S60 and UIQ have many many hand sets and none of the the apps i have ever purchased or downloaded have been shoddy or full of evil viruses and spyware. Shady and dodgy apps dont live long on good app download sites, its just how non apple centric mobile software markets work, the internets is full of em. Computer app developers develop apps that run on systems with far more variation then moblie devs do. Unless the compy is ancient or has some sort of issue, Adobe apps all run pretty uniform across what ever OS/hardware you run them on, same with pretty much every other production app i have used, the excuses of multi platforms/hardware configs hinders stability is a line of BS used by lazy developers.
As long as google does not go around killing apps that get developed for being trivial and or competitive with apple products such as mail or itunes, android could be a big hit with people that want an open development platform.
And as for big, the iphone isnt exactly a small phone
I have heard from several developers that many big companies are bearish on Android. While the iPhone is a proven market, the multitude of devices that might run android, and the headache that accounting for all of those devices in code causes, is making developers think twice before they launch full-scale into production.
On the other hand, Apple's unexplained denial of certian apps is causing the same problem.
On the other hand, Apple's unexplained denial of certian apps is causing the same problem.
That is a straw-man argument.
If someone has something good to say, and you accuse them of bias based on the fact that you disagree, you are playing the Fox News game.
That developer has had wild success, and he is happy with that experience. Suggesting the Apple is paying him to say so is ridiculous. The only people paying him are the ones that bought the app. There must have been a lot of those.
well, i'm sure my iphone would continue to attract more chicks around here than that upcoming google phone. ..so imma stick with iphone for a little longer. HAHAHA!
PHONE IS A SEX SYMBOL
PHONE IS A SEX SYMBOL
Maybe Google will have hardware capability standards for their platform to run on so that not just any phone can run Android.
Hahaha, you're clever
Wow.. This is all so sudden. Android coming out TOMORROW? This is a reality?
Let the games begin, then.
Worst. Demo. Evar. Rule #1 of demoing a product: make people more inspired to buy/use your product after seeing the demo than before. Fail.
Blue dot? Ooh, a clock? An OpenGL demo from 1998? Really? Plus, the video quality was terrible and the presenter put me right to sleep.
I like Google a lot, but they have a lot of work to do to catch up to iPhone & App Store (and it sure does look like they are copying as much as they can).
Blue dot? Ooh, a clock? An OpenGL demo from 1998? Really? Plus, the video quality was terrible and the presenter put me right to sleep.
I like Google a lot, but they have a lot of work to do to catch up to iPhone & App Store (and it sure does look like they are copying as much as they can).
Funny... the same thing was said about Apple and the iPhone.
Put down the kool-aid and keep an open mind.
It didn't? How do you figure?
Those platforms have gone nowhere fast, it took the iPhone X number of years later to finally put some energy into that space. Now other platforms are trying to hitch a ride to Apple's wagon, but it is not likely to work.
No. Apple has extensive experience in the CE space, the OS space, the application development and developer relation space, hardware....I could go on and on.
Google hasn't been too successful at much other than building a search engine and trafficking ads.
I am all for Android. I have an iPod touch, and that's enough of an iPhone for me. I don't want to switch to AT&T, so I'll be getting this when my contract ends this December. The only thing about this is there is T-Mobile doesn't offer 3G in Hawaii and won't until next year, and that the handset isn't the best looking. But hey, it's the "first" Android phone, I can't wait (=