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Google's Humorous New Pixel Ads Argue the iPhone Has Plateaued

ikir said:
Dream on, Google
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There must be something good about the Pixel as several of my friends and colleagues are using them after a decade plus with iPhone and say they won’t go back to iOS. I know it’s often argued the Pixel has the best smartphone camera out there and maybe the different OS approach is refreshing to some. I can’t see myself leaving the iPhone anytime soon but I’m not arrogantly going to claim it’s the best phone out there as it’s clearly a subjective topic. Let’s face it, iOS hasn’t changed an awful lot in several years so Google are probably poking a bit of fun at that.
 
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The-Real-Deal82 said:
There must be something good about the Pixel as several of my friends and colleagues are using them after a decade plus with iPhone and say they won’t go back to iOS. I know it’s often argued the Pixel has the best smartphone camera out there and maybe the different OS approach is refreshing to some. I can’t see myself leaving the iPhone anytime soon but I’m not arrogantly going to claim it’s the best phone out there as it’s clearly a subjective topic. Let’s face it, iOS hasn’t changed an awful lot in several years so Google are probably poking a bit of fun at that.
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Give them time, they will be back.
 
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Lol...funny I give it that...come on Google you are the creator of Android, but you couldn't make it in the phone industry? Google phones should have been bigger than Samsung phones. Still to this day none of my Android friends have a Google phone...and what happened to the Nexus line? Bring it back!
 
Elohim369 said:
Apple is at least kind of trying with privacy.

But they are failing just as badly as anyone else - a phone is a tracking device by definition, pretty difficult to make this private. They try, but they fail.

In addition, they keep adding "agency" backdoors, they lost their fight with the FBI etc.

What do you think is the reason the FBI and government have stopped complaining that Apple locked down the iPhone?

Is it
A - Apple added backdoors as requested, or
B - They knew they lost so they... ummm...

Yeah. It's (A).

This is how it went:
FBI went to Apple, said, guys, we need backdoors. Apple said no, we are a privacy company, no backdoors. FBI went to 3rd party "hacker" tool manufacturers, bought their services. Apple tolerates it and doesn't fix those holes - plausible deniability on all sides, the FBI gets what it wants, they can get into any device. Apple gets to keep pretending iPhones are private and safe. Everyone's happy. The end.

A classic hypocritical compromise as they love to do in California.
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Do you have any proof of any of this? If so, can you provide it?

Phones can track you location but if Apple is anonymizing that data, it doesn't interfere with privacy.

The reason the FBI gave up on Apple is that a third-party gave them a way to crack the phone. There was a court case and Apple was not forced to assist the FBI. Apple did request that the details of the crack be provided to them and the FBI refused.

Those are the basic facts. Everything else is your opinion.
 
inkswamp said:
Do you have any proof of any of this? If so, can you provide it?

Phones can track you location but if Apple is anonymizing that data, it doesn't interfere with privacy.

The reason the FBI gave up on Apple is that a third-party gave them a way to crack the phone. There was a court case and Apple was not forced to assist the FBI. Apple did request that the details of the crack be provided to them and the FBI refused.

Those are the basic facts. Everything else is your opinion.
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Do you have actual proof, not what apple tells you, that they are? Real proof, not marketing jargon etc. Bet you don't. They (all tech companies) are all the same. YOU ARE AN ATM. Nothing more. They will tell you what you want to hear to take your money. No one is any better than the other for "privacy". If you think otherwise, I have some beachfront property in Antarctica for you. Google is not wrong either. The iPhone is stale and boring.
 
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mrat93 said:
I want iOS more than all of those combined. I figured that was implied.

But you know what I’d like more? An iPhone will any or all of those things.
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The winky face in my reply implied sarcasm. But in all seriousness, if any person really could benefit from those things and wouldn't be affected by leaving the apple ecosystem it would make more sense to own an Android phone.

Plenty of good ones out there these days.
 
DeepIn2U said:
Highly rated by a for profit org means they got paid the most from top competitor.
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That’s like saying people in media only praise apple because they are paid

It’s flawed logic

Nobody in the media gets paid to praise or claim a phone is great. Did the YouTuber you mention who didn’t have a good experience with the pixel get paid by other brands to hate the phone?
 
bgillander said:
Funny, you just complained that Apple has stopped innovating while complaining they changed too much.

Even funnier, I sort of agree. It actually makes sense that there wouldn’t be dramatic changes to a 15 year old product if it is still selling well, but I wish they wouldn’t keep removing old iOS features. I have the opposite complaint of most, it seems, as I wish they would stop trying to make iOS more like MacOS, as I already have a Mac, and I preferred the less cluttered iOS to the newer versions, especially on the iPad mini. I hate that you can no longer turn off multi-window and I can’t count the number of times I’ve unintentionally opened a second window or clicked the 3 dots while selecting the URL line in iOS Safari. I figured the iPad would be a good basic internet device for my mother, but since that change she gets too frustrated to use it. After that, I started to notice it more and realized how much it was happening to me, too. I hate it when everyone goes “Steve Jobs would have never”, but he was very vocal that iOS and MacOS were intentionally separate due to the touch interface, and I worry about how much they are merging them. /rant
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Apples innovations seem to be only benefiting those with shares or heavy investment within the company. I’m a share holder and I can tell you my investment hasn’t really made the moves I was promised when I dropped nearly a decades worth of savings into the company.
The new headset is amazing. But it won’t benefit anyone for at least a decade as it’s just priced itself out of hundreds of millions of households across the globe.
When you can purchase reliable transportation OR buy a headset that doesn’t really do anything new. I think something has to give.

And the morphing of macOS and iOS is something I despise as well. While I understand apple wants to streamline the feel and shape of its operating systems. They are alienating people who spend big money for unique products that feel unique and do unique things.
Venturas system preferences menu is a UI nightmare. And lacks the depth its predecessor does. As you said it, they took away features.
They did. And they seem proud of doing so.
Apple takes things away and tells us we’re lucky to be there to buy their products.
Seems pedantic doesn’t it?
 
Radon87000 said:
The Note series and the S series were redundant. That's why merging the two made sense especially when the second half of the year is devoted to foldable.
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They have not merged S Series with Note Series. Note Series is now Ultra Series and S Series is still there as S1X and S1X+
 
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Apples innovations seem to be only benefiting those with shares or heavy investment within the company. I’m a share holder and I can tell you my investment hasn’t really made the moves I was promised when I dropped nearly a decades worth of savings into the company.
The new headset is amazing. But it won’t benefit anyone for at least a decade as it’s just priced itself out of hundreds of millions of households across the globe.
When you can purchase reliable transportation OR buy a headset that doesn’t really do anything new. I think something has to give.

And the morphing of macOS and iOS is something I despise as well. While I understand apple wants to streamline the feel and shape of its operating systems. They are alienating people who spend big money for unique products that feel unique and do unique things.
Venturas system preferences menu is a UI nightmare. And lacks the depth its predecessor does. As you said it, they took away features.
They did. And they seem proud of doing so.
Apple takes things away and tells us we’re lucky to be there to buy their products.
Seems pedantic doesn’t it?
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Maybe you invested in the wrong company and should get out and take the gains (and tax). They seem to be doing something right and in order for something to be a benefit it has to start somewhere.

Today I don’t use macOS but my kids do. And I like the direction ios is going. Ymmv.
 
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