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I went in expecting these to be super-duper corny but they were actually not bad. I'll stick with the iPhone though because I enjoy the continuity and ecosystem, but not wrong to say that it's 2023 and iPhone is a very stale product. I mean, look at Apple's own efforts to squeeze every penny by gating stuff like OLED/high refresh rate in the Pro lineup and now the Ultra?

Surely I hope they're not expecting people are gonna be wearing big ass Vision Pros out in the streets in 2024 lmao... but then again they did show that in the promo roll 😓.
 
Wow. It's like the "I'm a Mac" ads, except Apple is on the receiving end this time.

Honestly, the biggest surprise is that it took Google (or anyone else) this long to make a funny series of attack ads against the iPhone.

Maybe Samsung never tried because they already have more marketshare than Apple so attack ads don't work well, and most of the rest of the manufacturers lack the budget for such an ad campaign?
Samsung has burned Apple and it's users tons of times......

 
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I went in expecting these to be super-duper corny but they were actually not bad. I'll stick with the iPhone though because I enjoy the continuity and ecosystem, but not wrong to say that it's 2023 and iPhone is a very stale product. I mean, look at Apple's own efforts to squeeze every penny by gating stuff like OLED/high refresh rate in the Pro lineup and now the Ultra?

Surely I hope they're not expecting people are gonna be wearing big ass Vision Pros out in the streets in 2024 lmao... but then again they did show that in the promo roll 😓.
Apple fans know no bounds when it comes to absurdity. I use apple products, but I am not a blind loyalist.
 
Android blows iOS out. The reason I'm stuck on it is iMessage, and all my friends with iMessage. That's it. Apple knows if they allowed iMessage on Android, iPhone sales would simply stop.
Lmfao are you dumb or stupid? Android phones and os are lacking . The interface is terrible and there’s buttons that aren’t necessary
 
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Not all of it can. Not if you don't want to give up Google Play Services altogether and all the functionality that comes with it.
And if you keep it, you're keeping the worst data harvesting bloatware out there.


If you buy a SD Gen 2 device then yes, in head to head battery tests it's pretty efficient. In real world usage, over the duration of a typical day, Android has way too much garbage telemetry and data harvesting that dents your battery life pretty significantly.

I used rooted Android flagships for the past 10 years and I've given up trying to mess with this data collection machine and optimize it.
All real world tests show the S23 Ultra to be almost on par with the 14 Pro Max in battery life, give or take 30 mins here and there. It sounds like your experience is from Android phones from a decade ago.

I daily drive an S23 Ultra and a 14 Pro Max and yes the iPhone pulls ahead by 10% by the end of the day but the Samsung is a more productive phone so its a trade off. Both these phones have great battery life in my experience.
 


Google today launched a humorous "BestPhonesForever" ad campaign that pits the latest Pixel smartphones against the iPhone, painting the iPhone as an old, outdated phone that was once great, but can no longer keep up with the younger smartphones (via 9to5Google).


There are a series of five ads. In "Plateau," the iPhone laments being 14 years old and unable to keep up with Pixel features like 30x zoom, astrophotography, and AI. The Pixel smartphone comforts the iPhone by mentioning the iPhone's blue bubbles.

"The bubbles! The bubbles! Is all I have to show for all my years on earth the color of a bubble? I mean, millions of people have waited in line for me," bemoans the iPhone. Eventually, the iPhone runs out of battery, and the Pixel phone is left calling for a charger. "Ah quick! Somebody get a Lightning charger!"


In another ad, the two smartphones are star gazing and the iPhone is lamenting that it isn't able to see the stars like the Pixel can with its astrophotography mode, while a third ad makes fun of Apple's privacy stance on public WiFi.

"I'm freaking out! Quick, get off the public Wi-Fi," says the iPhone dramatically. "There are... hackers, in this place." The Pixel smartphone reassures the iPhone that the Pixel has a built-in VPN that keeps it safe, a function not available on the iPhone.




In a fourth spot, the pixel smartphone suggests shooting some videos before noticing that the iPhone has a dead battery. The Pixel uses Qi-based charging to charge up the iPhone on the fly. A final video sees the iPhone jealously recounting all of the Pixel's features. The Pixel shows off its latest feature, folding technology, and the iPhone faints in shock. "What year is it? Do we have flying cars yet?" asks the iPhone.


Google is using the "BestPhonesForever" tag with the new campaign, which is highlighting the Pixel Fold. Google came out with the Pixel Fold back in May, with the smartphone priced at $1,800. Apple has not yet come out with a foldable smartphone and there is no word on when the company plans to do so.

Article Link: Google's Humorous New Pixel Ads Argue the iPhone Has Plateaued
I mean they are not wrong. Tim Cook made apple complacent. Nothing feels innovative anymore. Just more or the same. Don’t get me wrong I love my iPhone. But I wish I stayed on the 13, because the dynamic island is the absolute worst excuse of a feature. It makes watching videos and playing games a nightmare.
The play store on the other hand is a max max wildland of maybe it’s a virus, maybe it will steal my information.
But it’s only a matter of time before it happens with the App Store. It’s not enough we pay for our apps but they also need every single digital shred about us to “ tailor “ the experience.

Apple dumped everything into the headset. And our iPhones are suffering. We’ll get a 15, and Tim will say it’s “ revolutionary “
Well, it won’t be. It will be absolutely more of the same. Always the same, but tweaked.
And it’s not worth paying for anymore. Apple did such a great job of building long lived sturdy devices that their biggest competitors are themselves. A used iPhone is a new iPhones direct competition. And you can only keep paying for the same re colored crap green and rose gold phone so many times. The 5c was fresh , took a great phone and breathed life into it.
Now our iPhones feel like bricks with apple thinking we want titanium and polished steel chunks. Imagine if apple just made a beautiful polycarbonate phone, or carbon fiber phone. I’m tired of holding a brick. When Google can make a lighter phone that works just as good, lasts just as long and has a user experience starting to rival the iOS feel…. Apple has gotten complacent. And it’s not fun anymore.
 
Android phones and os are lacking .
They're actually pretty good and far more customizable to your personal tastes.

The interface is terrible and there’s buttons that aren’t necessary
I don't agree. That universal back button is something Apple should adopt, and the other buttons are easier to use than the equivalent iPhone gestures.

||| = swipe up and stop from bottom (Task list)
Square = quick swipe up (leave app)
< = No equivalent that I know of (universal back)

They both have their good points and are so close in the way you do things these days, I don't really care which I use.
 
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By blind loyalist you mean people who have a different opinion than yours. People whose priorities are different than your own is a “blind loyalist”.
Pretty sure by "blind loyalist" he means people that no matter how badly Apple screws you, how overpriced and under spec'd the products are, how behind the "bleeding edge" they are, and how last generation looks just like this generation, they make excuses for literally everything, and when they can't make excuses for the inexcusable, they play the "go buy an Android" or "go buy a Windows PC" card.

Yeah, those blind loyalists.
 
Pretty sure by "blind loyalist" he means people that no matter how badly Apple screws you, how overpriced and under spec'd the products are, how behind the "bleeding edge" they are, and how last generation looks just like this generation, they make excuses for literally everything, and when they can't make excuses for the inexcusable, they play the "go buy an Android" or "go buy a Windows PC" card.

Yeah, those blind loyalists.
You mean those who don’t believe:
- apple is screwing them
- the products are not overpriced
- that specs don’t matter but how it performs is more important
- that the look of the last gen iPhone is great even if the next gen looks similar
- who do not have the same opinion as the one throwing around the criticisms
- the ones who winder on the most hyperbolic of posts why the poster would own an iPhone

Those blind loyalists? I’m pointing out different strokes for different folks.
 
You mean those who don’t believe:
- apple is screwing them
- the products are not overpriced
- that specs don’t matter but how it performs is more important
- that the look of the last gen iPhone is great even if the next gen looks similar
- who do not have the same opinion as the one throwing around the criticisms
- the ones who winder on the most hyperbolic of posts why the poster would own an iPhone

Those blind loyalists? I’m pointing out different strokes for different folks.
Just because you don't believe it doesn't make it not true. There are obviously blind loyalists everywhere, including politics, for example. While there are facts and evidence in most cases, some choose not to believe regardless of facts. Blind loyalists.
 
I mean they are not wrong. Tim Cook made apple complacent. Nothing feels innovative anymore. Just more or the same. Don’t get me wrong I love my iPhone. But I wish I stayed on the 13, because the dynamic island is the absolute worst excuse of a feature. It makes watching videos and playing games a nightmare.
Funny, you just complained that Apple has stopped innovating while complaining they changed too much.

Even funnier, I sort of agree. It actually makes sense that there wouldn’t be dramatic changes to a 15 year old product if it is still selling well, but I wish they wouldn’t keep removing old iOS features. I have the opposite complaint of most, it seems, as I wish they would stop trying to make iOS more like MacOS, as I already have a Mac, and I preferred the less cluttered iOS to the newer versions, especially on the iPad mini. I hate that you can no longer turn off multi-window and I can’t count the number of times I’ve unintentionally opened a second window or clicked the 3 dots while selecting the URL line in iOS Safari. I figured the iPad would be a good basic internet device for my mother, but since that change she gets too frustrated to use it. After that, I started to notice it more and realized how much it was happening to me, too. I hate it when everyone goes “Steve Jobs would have never”, but he was very vocal that iOS and MacOS were intentionally separate due to the touch interface, and I worry about how much they are merging them. /rant
 
Just because you don't believe it doesn't make it not true. There are obviously blind loyalists everywhere, including politics, for example. While there are facts and evidence in most cases, some choose not to believe regardless of facts. Blind loyalists.
This is just a word game. He said she said type of thing. People put the facts together and form their own opinion. Can’t tell people how to spend their money or how to think.
 
I mean they are not wrong. Tim Cook made apple complacent. Nothing feels innovative anymore. Just more or the same. Don’t get me wrong I love my iPhone. But I wish I stayed on the 13, because the dynamic island is the absolute worst excuse of a feature. It makes watching videos and playing games a nightmare.
The play store on the other hand is a max max wildland of maybe it’s a virus, maybe it will steal my information.
But it’s only a matter of time before it happens with the App Store. It’s not enough we pay for our apps but they also need every single digital shred about us to “ tailor “ the experience.

Apple dumped everything into the headset. And our iPhones are suffering. We’ll get a 15, and Tim will say it’s “ revolutionary “
Well, it won’t be. It will be absolutely more of the same. Always the same, but tweaked.
And it’s not worth paying for anymore. Apple did such a great job of building long lived sturdy devices that their biggest competitors are themselves. A used iPhone is a new iPhones direct competition. And you can only keep paying for the same re colored crap green and rose gold phone so many times. The 5c was fresh , took a great phone and breathed life into it.
Now our iPhones feel like bricks with apple thinking we want titanium and polished steel chunks. Imagine if apple just made a beautiful polycarbonate phone, or carbon fiber phone. I’m tired of holding a brick. When Google can make a lighter phone that works just as good, lasts just as long and has a user experience starting to rival the iOS feel…. Apple has gotten complacent. And it’s not fun anymore.
I can’t wait to get my iPhone 15. My wife enjoyed here 14PM with dynamic island. I guess horses for courses.

Tim Cook is a master angiving people what they want as evidenced by the growth since 2011. That’s not complacency, that’s masterful leadership. But everyone has their own opinion.

Bottom line, based on where apple is they aren’t complacent and instill have fun using my iPhone. Ymmv.
 
photos using a phone will always suck, they will look cool in phone, when i view them on 27" desktop they are pixelated, blurry, mostly useless, so Google can keep their 30X zoom, i don't need it.
 
Android phones have the ability to install different OSs. For example the Pixel can get GrapheneOS which is more private than iOS.

But I think you're right that in stock form, i.e. iOS vs android, iOS is more private.
GrapheneOS works probably 10% of the time ?
99.9999% of people won't try to install different OS on a phone, most people wont even install different OS on laptop/desktop.
 
FYI everyone. my daily driver is an iPhone 13. However, I don't think everything that apple has is the second coming of christ.
You did say that you have an iphone 13. What people consider that apple does well, that apple needs improvement and apple falls flat will be different from person to person. If your take that some people believe that apple is the second coming of christ, it means you disagree with someones opinion. And as you noted, you have a certain belief in apple, others have a different opinion.
 
This is just a word game. He said she said type of thing. People put the facts together and form their own opinion. Can’t tell people how to spend their money or how to think.
It's not a word game. You think because people have an opinion, they can't be labeled a blind loyalist. Look up what a blind loyalist is. We're not debating that people aren't allowed to have an opinion. We're debating that people who constantly have the opinion that, for example, Apple can do no wrong and everything they sell is sunshine and rainbows, are blind loyalists.
 
Apple phones are much easier to repair. I fixed an 11 in 15 minutes. You might get a battery spark but that's part of the fun.
 
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