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Google's iOS and Android Apps Track and Store Location Data With Location History Disabled

i wonder how much $$$ people would pay for google’s various services if they were the customer rather than the product

personally i don’t use anything google except for maps on my phone and youtube videos if people send them to me to watch

i’m not sure how much, if any, i would pay for a google maps type experience on my phone

i think that people are so used to it and it seems like good value to pay with their own data instead of $
[doublepost=1534204196][/doublepost]i also think that some people of certain generations in certain countries (mine and mine) don’t necessarily expect everything for free.

but rather when they get there home internet and mobile phone bills that cost more than what used to be their cable tv/home phone/ and newspaper subscriptions combined

they figure it must come with a bunch of extra stuff

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i forgot to add in cost of yearly gas staton road map purchases
 
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does anyone know how to find google history if you don’t have any google accounts?

like device based i guess?
 
What google is doing is beneficial to any government in the world. Therefore no one bans them. Even the Chinese government wants them back too.
 
ctg7w6 said:
The article says it’s not illicitly collecting the data but rather obfuscating the process to end data collection. I wonder if a court would agree.
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Im by no means a legal expert but you can bet your ass google has a ton of them.... and the wording is probably just vague enough to let it pass legal muster.
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UKinEK said:
DuckDuckGo!
DuckDuckGo!

,,everybody now”
DuckDuckGo!

:)
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What's duck duck go? I've heard of duck duck goose......
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jasvncnt said:
Of course I know I'm being tracked. Maybe it's just me. I really don't care about Google tracking me or being thier "product" as long as it helps me get the info I want when I want it.
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I feel the same way... UNTIL a government entity decides they want to use Google's info about me and I have no clue google handed them that info.....
 
If anyone can suggest an aleternative to Waze that works similar to Waze, I can be free of all Google apps/services the rest of my life.
 
rafark said:
More like:

If you use anything linked to the internet, you are being tracked
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If you are using a eGPS phone you are being tracked in realtime since they were mandated, with no way to disable it except turn off maybe, don't even have to connect to the internet. People gnashing their teeth over this stuff is hilarious this late in the game.
 
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AFDoc said:
Im by no means a legal expert but you can bet your ass google has a ton of them.... and the wording is probably just vague enough to let it pass legal muster.
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What's duck duck go? I've heard of duck duck goose......
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I feel the same way... UNTIL a government entity decides they want to use Google's info about me and I have no clue google handed them that info.....
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you can assume google has handed over any and all data about you to whatever your government is as a matter of course

that is a giant part of our new feudal society

google is permitted to do whatever they want, whichever governments you live under are given access to that data
 
I try not to use google if I can help it. However, the social icons allow their respective properties to track me in some manner. Plus, everyone uses google analytics. At this point the only way to disable tracking is to surf without Javascript.
 
fairuz said:
Lol, classic Google. I think Google themselves are confused about this too. Seems like a lot of what they do is complicated and spread out, by the nature of the company, but that's also how they expand so much.

I'd call the privacy violation due more to neglect than intentional wrongdoing. In either case Apple is much better about this.
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What Privacy?

With love
Your permanent friends
Google and Facebook

PS: if you want to unsubscribe, kindly throw your devices to a rubbish bin
 
AFDoc said:
Im by no means a legal expert but you can bet your ass google has a ton of them.... and the wording is probably just vague enough to let it pass legal muster.
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What's duck duck go? I've heard of duck duck goose......

Have stopped using Google Search Engine years ago, switched to DuckDuckGo instead.
Strong privacy commitment and the search results are more to my liking.
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I'm probably in the minority on this site, since I believe the benefits of data collection from the Google apps I use greatly outweigh any downsides and use the hell out of them daily. I'd go as far as to say that if push came to shove, and Apple started to remove the Google apps I use from my iOS devices, I'd reluctantly switch to Android.

That being said, this seems to be a very dirty move from Google. No means no and if someone doesn't want to be tracked or have their data collected, built in loopholes is definitely 'evil' and they need to be put in check (probably by the EU).
 
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mi7chy said:
Truth hurts, huh? First thing you have to do on an iOS device is sign in before you can use it so everything is tracked to iCloud. On Android and Google services it's optional if you want to remain anonymous.
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That’s how the iOS ecosystem works. You have a iTunes account, so you can download app/music, use iMessage and other Apple services. Apple let’s you choose which apps can track you as which can’t. Apple is at least more forthcoming with its privacy policies versus the other folks over at google.
 
Faelan said:
Time for Margrethe Vestager to slap Google with another billion dollar fine... lol
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Im sure that will come right after she slaps Apple with a few billion for not getting rid of the lightning connector yet.

Honestly, if this is the price to use Google Maps, its still worth it. It's not a free service, people need to stop assuming it is, if that cost is to high for you then use something else, its that simple, its not the only map service. Apple Maps isn't a free service either, you or someone else subsidizes it with the high cost of Apple hardware... nothing is free people, get over it.
 
UKinEK said:
DuckDuckGo!
DuckDuckGo!

,,everybody now”
DuckDuckGo!

:)
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But it sucks
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jasvncnt said:
Of course I know I'm being tracked. Maybe it's just me. I really don't care about Google tracking me or being thier "product" as long as it helps me get the info I want when I want it.
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Same, for some things. It's annoying to be tracked, but I understand certain info makes the service better for everyone. You're probably in the majority.
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jona2125 said:
Actually yes

https://www.cultofmac.com/91269/starting-with-ios-4-your-iphone-has-been-secretly-tracking-you/
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That was about the iPhone tracking you, not Apple. The info stayed on the phone.
 
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Piggie said:
It's funny.
I'm honestly not pro Google, or Pro Apple, Both companies do things that just leave me speechless.
And I'd love to slap both Tim Cook, Jony Ive, and the Google team for many of the dumb things they do.
But, I genuinely don't have an issue with location tracking.
I have it turned on, on my phone, and of course any apps that need it. Maps, Weather etc, and every now and again I get a message from Google showing me on a map where I've been over the past month or so.
My reaction was, cool that's clever and handy. Never crossed my mind to be worried.
I'm either at home, at work, at a friends house, out for the day on in town shopping. Nothing secret and nothing of interest to anyone.
I can't really see what all the shock horror is about unless you are doing anything weird or undercover.
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It’s not about something to hide. It’s about something to lose. Privacy is, or should be, a basic human right.

It’s for the same reasons that I don’t want to live in a glass house without blinds, curtains, or doors. I don’t do things that are strange, unusual, or illegal. In fact, “everyone is doing” the things I do. I still don’t want those things tracked, recorded, watched, logged, documented, analyzed, monetized, or even turned into metadata. Not one little bit.
 
rafark said:
Of course they do. Pretty much any website on the planet does. This forum tracks you. Almost certainly any web service from a major company does it as well. I bet my life Apple do it as well. As long as you're making a connection with a remote web server, you can be tracked.
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The worst a website can do is use cookies to see which other sites you've visited, and that's only if they're in cahoots with those sites.
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Jimmy James said:
It’s not about something to hide. It’s about something to lose. Privacy is, or should be, a basic human right.

It’s for the same reasons that I don’t want to live in a glass house without blinds, curtains, or doors. I don’t do things that are strange, unusual, or illegal. In fact, “everyone is doing” the things I do. I still don’t want those things tracked, recorded, watched, logged, documented, analyzed, monetized, or even turned into metadata. Not one little bit.
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Everyone can have privacy, at least in the US where you can get away with having nothing but a birth certificate if you really want. What I don't want to hear is people using Facebook and Google then complaining about the data collection they agreed to.
 
dazz87 said:
damn.............A whore of a company? did they steal your lunch money?
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A financial exchange for information many would consider private. It’s an almost dictionary definition. The only thing missing is sex and google serves up access to that bountifully.
 
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