I'm disgusted by smart kids who think they are the centre of the universe.
And yet you buy Apple products, a company founded by Smart Kid Who Thinks He's The Center of the Universe Prime.
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Google's Larry Page Claims Steve Jobs' War on Android Was 'For Show'
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And yet you buy Apple products, a company founded by Smart Kid Who Thinks He's The Center of the Universe Prime.
And you know this with certainty how...????
I just know as much as anybody knows with the information given to us through the internet but I think mostly from Steve's biography.
I don't claim that I know it with certainty, but if his biography was not lying then the steve I know(from his bio alone) is not the type that is very happy with people stealing his(or Apple's) ideas. Microsoft is a perfect example, even after many years later we see a lot of interviews where steve would bring up his relationship with Bill Gates and it just shows in SJ's face that he was still holding onto the grudge he had from what Bill did. This did not prevent steve from doing the right thing for Apple like developing a new relationship with Microsoft helping the company get out of the financial problems it had at the time.
So with android I definitely believe it was a huge hit to Steve, especially after the events with Microsoft. Also, this would likely be a weaker argument but it was in his biography, if the hatred he had towards android was a fake, how crediblecan we say is the rest of the book?
Break is over, time to get back to work. No time for grammar check, apologies.
Sure Larry, sure...now if you could just lay off that crack pipe of yours...
If SJ were alive he would NEVER consider any kind of settlement with you thieves. Too bad Tim Cook is not as principled.
lol, "thieves".
Because Apple never "borrows" any idea from any company, ever. Not once in their entire history. Never. Not a single time.
I disagree. Everyone acts like everything innovative that Apple did came directly out of SJ's head and that everyone else there is simply implementing his ideas. I think he did a great job of rejuvenating the company, but there are hundreds of creative dedicated people there that are just as responsible for Apple's success. In fact, I would be most worried if Jony Ive were to go.
And yes, Cook is different than SJ and that may turn out to be a good thing. SJ was awesome, but he was clearly a narcissist. He was sure that he always new what the customer wanted better than the customer did. Now, I think companies get into trouble following only what their customers tell them (read the Innovator's Dilemma for an incredible explanation of how your listening to your customers can doom your company), but I don't agree with everything that SJ did. I look forward to Cook being a little more responsive to customers (for example, adding a memory slot for iDevices).
So, I think the talent that allowed and allows Apple to make the coolest stuff in the world is distributed throughout the company, and as sad as I was to lose SJ I don't think Apple is going to start rotting any time soon.
Actually I have briefly when trying to set up the networking services on one for our wireless network and found it did not support Proxies (WTF !).
It was incredibly laggy, inconsistently laid out and in general a piece of ****.
My works mate who has just upgraded his to the latest version has some nice ideas/features.
But when you consider the "original" idea for the goole phone was a Blackberry competitor which miraculously morphed into an iPhone look alike, you then have to say the idea was stolen.
So, you being the fount of all real "knowledge" and "facts", can you explain where you got your "facts" about what I have and have not used, or am I to assume it was simply a piece of BS to make your view look more valid.
Point?
Apple attempted to create a social network and failed miserably. Ping.
At least Google+ is actually growing. It cant be denied that Apple quite simply sucks at online services. Google has a lot more experience in that field, and suck when it comes to hardware.
Apple is great at hardware/software and creating an ecosystem around that. They are crap at online services.
Google is great at online services as evidence by a large number of hugely successful ventures. They suck at hardware (Google TV as an example) and aren't exactly great when it comes to creating usable software (Android fragmentation).
Both companies have their strong points and weak points. Heck if they were actually put together they would probably create something amazing.
This comments from Larry Page have me boiling with rage. What planet is he on!?!?!
But it's cute he thinks the war is over. It's not. Us loyal Apple fans will never be satisfied until iOS devices have 100% marketshare. Android needs to be made completely irrelevant. We all hate everything about nasty Android.
But it's cute he thinks the war is over. It's not. Us loyal Apple fans will never be satisfied until iOS devices have 100% marketshare. Android needs to be made completely irrelevant. We all hate everything about nasty Android.
Sure Larry, sure...now if you could just lay off that crack pipe of yours...
If SJ were alive he would NEVER consider any kind of settlement with you thieves. Too bad Tim Cook is not as principled.
What exactly have Google stolen. If you say Android you're clearly deluded. Sure, Android borrows ideas from iOS, but iOS borrows ideas from Android. Thats how these things work. If it wasn't how things work then your mac wouldn't have any Windows on it, or icons...or any font other than 'System'.
Hate is one of the Three Poisons in Buddhism. What would Jobs, a Buddhist, think of your claim?
Thank you. I'm getting really sick of seeing people here decry Tim just cause he dares run Apple any different than how Jobs would.
Newsflash, Jobs is dead, you're not going to get another Jobs, build a bridge, get over it, and stop expecting anyone who runs Apple to be Jobs. Because that's how companies fail when they had a very iconic person leading who is now gone.
And here is another newsflash, Jobs didn't always do everything right. For example not wanting itunes on Windows? Do you really think the iPhone would do well being reliant on itunes when the majority of people couldn't synch it with their computer? Or how about his resistance to third party apps on the iPhone? The iPhone would be useless without third party apps. Especially with the crappy iOS apps it comes with (sorry, but most of the stock apps suck).
Third newsflash. Above poster is right, Apple has other people who have contributed to their success. Maybe they didn't get as famous for it, but Jobs didn't make the ipod, Jobs didn't make the Mac. Jobs was good at seeing ideas and how they would be used, sure. But he was and is not the only talent in Apple.
(Though I do think Apple will miss Jobs ability to get his way for example being able to get the music industry ok with making music digital when they were so resistant).
You better not mention that fact on here. You'll get some of the sheep telling you that Apple had $bn's in the bank and didn't need the money from Bill.
The real situation is probably somewhere in the middle.
After all Both companies had people on each others boards. It wasn't one sided as people have posted in this thread.
Thing is, if Schmidt stole the idea for the iPhone during his tenure on the board, wouldn't every lawyer in their stable be going after him personally for violating his position for his own ends? I'm pretty sure something like that isn't easy to get away with, and the legal fallout would be far more damning and intense than the "OLOL LOOK YOU SWIPE RIGHT TO UNLOCK THE PHONE! WE DID THAT FIRST YOU SHAMELESS COPYCATS SO WE SUE YOU NOW" lawsuits they've been fielding.
Okay. I want to know what you think Apple invented. I mean what they came up with entirely on their own that had never been seen before.
Touchscreens? They've been around for years.
App stores? Same case. Hell, Steam has been around since, what, 2002?
PDA devices that can make and receive phonecalls? Ditto
The iPhone isn't so much an entirely new invention, rather a series of them implemented well. Apple wouldn't be where they are today if it weren't for influences and breakthroughs outside the company they could build upon for their own products. It's the way of the technological world.
...yet if anyone tries to do the same, build off Apple's own breakthroughs and offer up different implementation of their ideas, everyone gets up in arms about it and shouts to the heavens that they're shamelessly ripping off the company. When it comes right down to it, the whole Apple vs. The World thing is nothing but double standards and hypocrisy.
As the proud owner of two iOS devices, I can tell you right now that's the very last thing in the world I'd want.
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I don`t see Larry periodically but I think he is very naive.
On a side note, licensing patents to Android could be good to cripple it. Let`s face it, Android is not going to go away. But making it more expensive to use will result with either bad products or scare companies from using it. On top of that Apple will make money to lock down more components.
On a side note, licensing patents to Android could be good to cripple it. Let`s face it, Android is not going to go away. But making it more expensive to use will result with either bad products or scare companies from using it. On top of that Apple will make money to lock down more components.
Took it to the grave? I could've sworn Steve told Walter Isaacson and that Walter Isaacson wrote it down in his book? Something about going "thermonuclear war on Android" because it is a "stolen product."
If any potential nominators receive enough exposure to the Reality Distortion Field, then I would certainly say it's possible.
I noticed that as well...
Yes its a big market.
Yes there is room for both,
But that doesn't mean there not competitors
So it would seem he thinks android isn't competitive.
Without Steve's 'emotion' maybe not so much.
It's an ignorant, or inexperienced or poor businessperson who thinks emotion isn't part of and doesn't fuel business ... it's all about emotion and without it there wouldn't be any profits to speak off. IMO.
It doesn't matter. Microsoft will soon dominate the smartphone market. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/05/technology/personaltech/lumia-900-a-beautiful-phone-from-nokia-and-microsoft.html?_r=1&ref=technology
Oh, I forgot Job's didn't care about profit. He only cared about what his customers wanted.
Great quote not just because of the irony but because of the necessity. Its usually the thieves who innovate.