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Google's Larry Page Claims Steve Jobs' War on Android Was 'For Show'
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This confirmed my exact thoughts.
A guy that says he was always "shameless about stealing great ideas", then says he will destroy someone for stealing his ideas Weird. I've always thought Steve used to say that to keep other competitors afraid. That way, anyone would think twice before trying something like Android, after all, not everyone is as powerful as google to face Apple.
It's also good for motivating the team at Apple, because it gives them a "game-on" sensation. To me, Larry is saying the truth
We'll never know, tho
Art is very different. In art you can "steal" techniques, and even categories, i.e. portraits, landscapes, cubism, etc, however each work of art is individual. What Google did was more akin to someone copying the Mona Lisa and saying it was not the same because the colour of the eyes were different and it had a different name and signature.
you havent used android, at least its more current iteration. they are nowhere near that similar... fanboys fanboys...
probably just as similar as windows is to osx...
How about how Steve Jobs wanted to use "every last dime to right this wrong" by launching lawsuits against Android? Clearly not just for show.
"Ideas" not products.
In art an "Idea" can be a technique, e.g. cubism, and indeed that has been copied by many, however if you put all those works of art side by side they will all look different.
What Google did was to try and paint the same picture using the same colours, the same frame and say its different because the signature was not the same.
The did not steal an idea, they stole a product.
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That word "current" is the defining term.
Um, 'fraid that was Jobs. But please, feel free to misinterpret that settlement again. And again.
And again.
Way to avoid the point. I cannot comment on early android because I never used it and I doubt you have too. Most of the people on here (ie. you) bash alternatives to Apple products without any firsthand knowledge of the competition. Sheep are good for Apple though!
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Maybe Jobs' accusations that Google stole their OS would be less compelling had Google not stolen their OS.
Maybe Jobs' accusations that Google stole their OS would be less compelling had Google not stolen their OS.
No kidding. A giant corporation being defended by legions of tools. All of a sudden everyone hates Google because Steve Jobs says they're bad people. Hilarious!
I need to go to a real tech site.
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Keep that crap outta here. Anyone that goes against Apple deserves personal insults and attacks!!
I have no idea what to believe, but why didn't Steve do anything against Android then? Surely Steve would have left something in Apple's future plans against Android. There are no signs currently that Apple would want to "destroy Android", other than a few smaller-scale patent wars typical of pretty much every company today.
Steve said he's prepared to spend all of Apple's money on this, so why didn't he at least start?
It would be quite stupid of Apple to try to destroy Android though, I think, since companies have been copying each other since the beginning of time, it's pointless to go against this. And Google has a lot of money too Apple was always good at doing things their way and not caring about competitors much, so this seems to me like an emotional outbreak rather than a true plan.
Steve said he's prepared to spend all of Apple's money on this, so why didn't he at least start?
It would be quite stupid of Apple to try to destroy Android though, I think, since companies have been copying each other since the beginning of time, it's pointless to go against this. And Google has a lot of money too Apple was always good at doing things their way and not caring about competitors much, so this seems to me like an emotional outbreak rather than a true plan.
Just like Sculley's Apple was for a few years; until it sank in a sea of profit-driven irrelevance.
Please people.. this whole thing is much ado about nothing. So a corporate CEO tries to spin things in a certain way. In other breaking news - sun came up this morning.
Android is here to stay. iOS is here to stay. Nothing to see here, move on.
Android is here to stay. iOS is here to stay. Nothing to see here, move on.
I am not a stockholder, just a longtime fan and user - as long as Apple products continue to be the best in the world, i"ll use them.
But I don't expect the same level of groundbreaking innovation once the last SJ-driven devices come out of the pipeline (i.e., iPhone 5) - as someone else said, Cook is a great wealth manager, not a wealth creator/visionary.
http://www.wired.com/thisdayintech/2009/08/dayintech_0806/
take off your blinders and try again buddy
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"Page goes on to claim that he believes companies should not be looking at their competitors and instead should simply be doing their best to improve the world."
That's exactly how the warez crowd justifies pirating music and videos. Coincidence?
"Page goes on to claim that he believes companies should not be looking at their competitors and instead should simply be doing their best to improve the world."
That's exactly how the warez crowd justifies pirating music and videos. Coincidence?
And iOS is Art? With a capital A? So even if Apple took ideas presented elsewhere and integrated them into iOS, you don't consider it copying because you can't copy art? So what were they? Divinely Inspired to make iOS. And now everyone else is crassly copying said divine inspiration because they're all dirty, artless proles? Seriously?
Android isn't copying so much as it is a different implementation of the similar idea. An idea that didn't originate exclusively from Apple. Superficially, iOS and Android similar. I mean yeah. It's got icons, and you touch it to navigate. Both of them share that in common. Underneath the hood though, they're quite different. Enough for me to say one isn't a shameless clone of the other.
Of course he started it, what do you think those lawsuits are about? He didn't go after Google directly for the simple reason that a legal case based on "look and feel" and software alone would be very difficult to win.
The Windows experience was a very bruising experience for him, and Schmidt's criminal role as an Apple Director became a sad reminder of how naive SJ sometimes was. I am positive that he sincerely believed Google would never copy the iPhone ideas floated to the Board - alas, he was flat out wrong.
Besides, he had to go after those who had made industrial implementations of Apple's patented inventions, especially where Apple Legal considered that there was a blatant case of copying, such as Samsung and HTC.
Larry P is such a s. bag
I'm disgusted by smart kids who think they are the centre of the universe.
I'm disgusted by smart kids who think they are the centre of the universe.