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"he intended to "destroy Android", threatening to wage "thermonuclear war" in an attempt to bring down what he viewed as a stolen mobile platform. "

Is that for real? Sounds pretty childish
 
i don't know if this is personal preference or not but.

look at android (very similar to iOS)

Look at android's logo (looks like crap)

So it seems to me they took what they could legally and used their own ideas for the logo.

All the stuff the copiers create themselves is crap. Only the stuff that is clearly copied is any good - and even then it's never quite as good.
I find this astounding because all they have to do is start with what has already been done and make one tiny little improvement. Then (with the help of the I.T. "press") they'd look to the general public like they were the best product.
 
Actually I have briefly when trying to set up the networking services on one for our wireless network and found it did not support Proxies (WTF !).

It was incredibly laggy, inconsistently laid out and in general a piece of ****.

My works mate who has just upgraded his to the latest version has some nice ideas/features.

But when you consider the "original" idea for the goole phone was a Blackberry competitor which miraculously morphed into an iPhone look alike, you then have to say the idea was stolen.

So, you being the fount of all real "knowledge" and "facts", can you explain where you got your "facts" about what I have and have not used, or am I to assume it was simply a piece of BS to make your view look more valid.

This is what doesn't make sense to me. Maybe Google just saw what was obvious to them, that the iPhone was going to be successful and would be something to emulate rather than blackberry.

Besides, even if they had released a version more similar to blackberry, by now they almost certainly would have changed their phones to be more of an iPhone competitor
 
Page goes on to claim that he believes companies should not be looking at their competitors and instead should simply be doing their best to improve the world.

Which "competitors" were Apple looking at when they created iMac, iPod, iPhone, iPad, Macbook Air? They've never done that, but they do (certainly Steve did) take exception to having their creativity and hard work undermined when it is shamelessly copied.
 
All the stuff the copiers create themselves is crap. Only the stuff that is clearly copied is any good - and even then it's never quite as good.
I find this astounding because all they have to do is start with what has already been done and make one tiny little improvement. Then (with the help of the I.T. "press") they'd look to the general public like they were the best product.

This is true. Peugeot was the first car manufacturer in the world, and no one has ever managed to match their vehicles in quality or performance.

Bugatti? MORE LIKE PALE IMITATION COPYGATTI AMIRITE?
 
Pinch-to-zoom? Swiping? Slide to unlock? Scrollbar-less scrolling?

Only a true Google fanboy believes Android to be an original work completely uninspired by the iPhone. Google. Masters of design. :rolleyes:

And only an Apple fanboy can believe these were completely new innovations by Apple.

If he really believes that, he didn't understand Steve in the slightest. If he's saying it to be deceptive, knowing it isn't true but that it will be accepted as true by the stupid ones, then he's a jerk.

So, Larry Page, who had a personal relationship to Jobs doesn't understand him, but you do?

Which "competitors" were Apple looking at when they created iMac, iPod, iPhone, iPad, Macbook Air? They've never done that, but they do (certainly Steve did) take exception to having their creativity and hard work undermined when it is shamelessly copied.

Are you saying Apple didn't look at the competition when creating these products? Ridiculous, with maybe the exception of the iPad, the keynote introduction of all these products used existing products from their competitors for comparison and to show how Apple's new equivalent improved on those existing products.
 
dumbass…

What an idiot. Steve may be dead, but his lawyers, and his company, are still very much alive. Go on then, KICK that hornet's nest why don't you…
 
Meh Steve Jobs still didnt mind stealing features such as the notification system from Android. Swings and Roundabouts...
 
Slide to unlock? Well, you've got me there. The fact they were able to patent something so innocuous goes to show how stupid some software patents are.

Apple didn't even invent that, and Android's default "slide to unlock" gesture does not even infringe on Apple's patent. Apple's patent for Slide to unlock is actually much more precise than that (other phones prior to iPhone had "slide to unlock", namely, the Neonode). Apple requires you slide an object along a designated path. The arrow widget, along the "Slide to unlock" line that is drawn on screen.

So yep, again, people claim Android "copied" iOS with no actual clue. Just big bold words, no actual meat. Android is Android, iOS is iOS. Both use different paradigms at many levels, including in their kernels, their treatment of user space code and their UIs. Both share support for a multitude of different input mecanisms and public, open standard APIs and Frameworks.

Android is as much a copy of iOS as Ubuntu is a copy of OS X.
 
Apple didn't even invent that, and Android's default "slide to unlock" gesture does not even infringe on Apple's patent.

Really?

Apple's "Slide to Unlock" patent was, and is, one of the most useful breakthroughs in cellphone technology.

First off, do you remember how miserably difficult it was to unlock a new phone? You had to remember which buttons - or more precisely which combination of buttons to push. And there was no intuitive guide to give you a hint as to how to do it. You just sort of stab randomly at the various phone-shaped icons until the thing comes to life, hopefully without speed-dialling a Bolivian phone-sex line along the way.

If you actually bother to read Apple's Patent, they specifically cite the Neonode in their references. But the Neonode, while using a swiping action on a touch screen, lacks the important bit.: The visual path, and sliding button, with sound, that a) tells you what to do, and b) gives you feedback that you're doing the right thing.

So: No, Apple didn't invent "swiping your finger on a screen to unlock your phone". They DID invent a "system that gives visual and auditory hints and feedback that makes it much, much easier for normal humans to figure out how to unlock their touchscreen smartphone."

And thats what Android ripped off, even if some cheese gobbling numbskull of a Dutch judge can't understand it.
 
And thats what Android ripped off, even if some cheese gobbling numbskull of a Dutch judge can't understand it.

Android does not use Apple's patented technique at all. Read the judgement. It's funny how in light of all the facts being presented, some people still persist in their "Apple invented everything and everyone else copies!" mentality.

Apple's technique is precise in using a pre-determined, displayed on screen, path with an object for interaction. Android does not, thus it does not infringe. Other vendor of Android phones might provide implementations that do, but default, Google branded stock Android does not.

I don't know how this can be more clear. Apple did not invent or patent slide to unlock. They patented "Slide a widget a long a pre-determined path that is displayed on screen-to-unlock".

And this folks, is why I think you're all being quite stubborn. You refuse to view the facts, going into mindless, baseless accusations in order to bash Android or anything not Apple. Why ? Facts are facts. To deny them is to deny reality itself. What purpose does this serve in your life ?

I have an iPhone, I like it. Does Android's existence change that ? Not at all. So why would I bash Android ? Why would I lie, ignore facts in an attempt to destroy it on a forum ? I cannot even start to comprehend this behavior you show vrDrew, and all others doing the same thing you are. This venom you spew at Android... why ?
 
Sure Larry, sure...now if you could just lay off that crack pipe of yours...:rolleyes:

If SJ were alive he would NEVER consider any kind of settlement with you thieves. Too bad Tim Cook is not as principled.

Oh dear Lord man, get OFF your soap box. . . All SJs DID was steal.
 
Microsoft made a $150,000,000 investment... AND... Steve Jobs came back.

Then the opposite of bankruptcy happened under Steve's watch... :D

yeah Steve had nothing to do with Bill Gates big donation? Gil Amelio beg bill gates constantly for help but there was no way anyone would put money into something that had no confidence in. Steve came in and got bill to make a bigger donation with less requirements than what Amelio wanted. Without Steve there wouldn't be a cent coming to Apple's aid.

so its Steve Jobs came back... THEN Microsoft made a $150m investment.
 
Well, only Steve knew the truth and took it to the grave.
I'm not sure if I would trust Larry Page on this one.
Actually, it may be like the Apple - Microsoft relationship of apparent Love and Hate, when they were actually very good friends.

Should we expect an Oscar nomination for S.J.?

Steve Jobs and Bill Gates were really very good friends? ROFL.
 
Tim Cook is a better businessman than Steve. He doesn't let emotion interfere with his decisions.

It's those same emotions that brought Apple to where it is today. Sometimes you just have to be a rebel, not politically correct, that's what made Jobs so successful, he followed his heart and not business as usual. its his emotions that made him halt iPhone and iPad productions just before release to re-engineer the glass and design because he didn't love it. It's his emotions that make him pay the crazy attention to detail that he does. Its his emotions that make the keynotes and his selling of the products so believable, because he really does believe it and love it. Its his emotions that has allowed him to be named CEO of the decade, CEO of his time etc.. Its his emotions that allowed him to work till the day he died. He was fueled by passion and his emotions, you could see it in his eyes.(if you looked in his eyes) And that passion is why Apple is the number one company in the world not Google.
 
Give Steve Credit, Page.

Apple certainly is NOT trying to improve "the world". They create consumer products for a tiny wealthy minority of this planet's population; products that "solve" pure luxury problems.

Sorry, not true. I worked in Apple retail for several years selling Macintoshes and iPhones. We never looked at our competition. We simply matched people with products to give them the best experiences we could. You got fired for upselling, at least at my store.

Now and then, I analyzed prices with customers and found Apple products are competitively priced when comparing kumquats to kumquats. However, Apple does not build a cheap netbook or desktop because of the negative customer experience it would create.

Yep, Apple is about making a profit, but the quality of Macs and iPhones, plus Apple customer service, makes the products affordable for folks with middle class incomes. So cut out the class warfare stuff; it's simply not true.

Furthermore, Apple looks A LOT at existing products.

I think Steve once said Apple innovates by improving. No denial here. The Mac revolutionized PC's. The iPhone and iPad did the same for their product categories.

Notifications and iCloud, anyone? Android had that stuff YEARS ago. In fact, Android 1.0 already shipped with it. And this is just one example.

Perhaps this is another example of Page borrowing an idea while being mentored by Steve. MobileMe — not a particularly good product — implemented some of these functions before the Android. Steve was always working on improving MobileMe. The timeline of the partnership between Google and Apple certainly leaves room for Google stealing notifications and iCloud from Steve Jobs.
 
Really amazing how rabid you people are about consumer products. They are companies, producing gadgets .. NOT A SINGLE THING MORE, yet you guys sound like you are ready to murder over it.

How about you use what you believe to be the best product, and leave it at that? Let the companies deal with marketing and arguing. There are so many more important things to life over what you carry in your pocket. You guys act like what phone you use decides the quality of life you live and the type of human you are. Rather pathetic if you ask me.

Use what you like, but beyond that they are just tools, nothing more and nothing less.
 
wow.. some of you really take this wayy too seriously/personal. all I really gathered from that article is that Page was just saying that Jobs wasn't a hateful person.. that Jobs, as a leader, gave the people in his company something to rally around, that he was a good friend and mentor. that he was honored that Jobs requested to meet with him during his dying days..

That quote was neither serious nor personal.

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Use what you like, but beyond that they are just tools, nothing more and nothing less.

So true. When people forget that a smartphone is a tool and not a religion, they themselves become the tool.
 
I love comments like this. Meanwhile in OS land, Power PC users are about to be abandoned as far as support goes leaving a lot of computers in the dust.

I wouldn't say that abandoning a 6 year old processor chip is exactly the same thing as abandoning a 6 month old smartphone that came with a 2 year contract. Obsolete technology purchased years ago is not the same thing as fragmentation. If you buy a Mac today, it will come with Lion. It can be an Air, a MBP, an iMac, a Mac Mini, whatever, it'll come with Lion. If you buy an Android today, it will come with any of several OS versions, all with different drawbacks and capabilities. Fragmentation is when what is currently on the market bridges several different standards and versions, not when they drop support for something 6 years old. Power PCs haven't been on the market for a long time.
 
I thought Microsoft saved them from bankruptcy.

Microsoft was caught with their pants down, having code that was stolen from Quicktime in Windows. Apple let them get off very cheaply. (Now the code was stolen by a contractor who wasn't paid for stealing code, but for writing new code. But that makes a moral difference, not a legal one).
 
It's those same emotions that brought Apple to where it is today. Sometimes you just have to be a rebel, not politically correct, that's what made Jobs so successful, he followed his heart and not business as usual. its his emotions that made him halt iPhone and iPad productions just before release to re-engineer the glass and design because he didn't love it. It's his emotions that make him pay the crazy attention to detail that he does. Its his emotions that make the keynotes and his selling of the products so believable, because he really does believe it and love it. Its his emotions that has allowed him to be named CEO of the decade, CEO of his time etc.. Its his emotions that allowed him to work till the day he died. He was fueled by passion and his emotions, you could see it in his eyes.(if you looked in his eyes) And that passion is why Apple is the number one company in the world not Google.

I never looked in his eyes. Did you?
 
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