Although I despise Android, I love the song in that commercial.
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Google's New 'iPager' Ad Shames Apple for Using Outdated Messaging Standard
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Not all of us feel comfortable depending on a Meta/Facebook product.
Apple will never adopt RCS unless 2FA systems adopt the tech and drop SMS.
Tech culture wouldn't be culture if Apple didn't continue to double-down on their proprietary goods.
Tech culture wouldn't be culture if Apple didn't continue to double-down on their proprietary goods.
I'm not smart enough to understand this so help is needed. ISn't google just pushing to replace SMS with RCS? Apple could do this I would think. Dont care if green bubbles are still there since i am sure apple could make RCS texts green.
What am I missing?
What am I missing?
ragging on competitors should have died out in the sega vs nintendo days. doesn't look good.
Yeah security, privacy and compliance would be quite problematic. If you need something secure and private, just use Signal, Session, Threema or Matrix protocol but trusting Meta or Google is far from ideal.
Once WhatsApp is on iPad soon, I can finally stop using iMessage and don’t have to carry my iPhone around the house anymore 😍
Google's implementation of RCS != RCS, they'd like Apple to support their version of it AFAIK but someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Nice of google to advertise Apple's exclusive features. It's amazing this bothers them so much, I mean you can just use Gchat, I mean Hangouts, I mean Allo, I mean Meet, I mean Chat to talk with people on google devices these days...
On one hand, yeah Apple should probably support RCS now.
On the other, it took Google over a decade to come up with something halfway comparable to iMessage and now calling Apple the slow ones is childish and ridiculous.
On the other, it took Google over a decade to come up with something halfway comparable to iMessage and now calling Apple the slow ones is childish and ridiculous.
Google, give it up. You aren't forcing Apple into anything. If anything this will make them throw the middle finger up at you out of spite and never add it. No one is asking for it anyway.
Google gave up converting iPhone users so they are attacking iMessage and this is their ploy
I think Apple won't support RCS until the carriers insist. Hopefully they do so soon.
It's frustrating that Apple so often pretends Android doesn't exist. A phone is a communication device; it should be able to communicate as securely and reliably as possible with all other phones.
It's frustrating that Apple so often pretends Android doesn't exist. A phone is a communication device; it should be able to communicate as securely and reliably as possible with all other phones.
So what does Google want me to use? They have like 10 different chat apps. ****** company.
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RCS is much more featureful than SMS, it supports images, videos, geolocation, file attachments and so on, and also end-to-end encryption, which SMS does not. It’s not about the color of the bubbles, it’s about the capabilities of the protocol.
You can bet your ass Apple isn’t going to change the color of the bubbles for RCS. That has nothing to do with SMS or RCS. It’s a choice Apple makes to distinguish using an iMessage so people know they’re end to end encrypted and capable of all the advanced things it can do.
Is this commercial for iPhone users? Like any of us actually care? Everyone I know who is worth talking to has an iPhone or I’ve converted to iPhone over the years. Messages is so far above and beyond, it’s one of the highest rated things about Apple’s ecosystem. They know it brings more people to Apple which is why they’re spending millions on ads. They won’t if it didn’t benefit them and hurt Apple.
I think they’re barking up the wrong tree. If they want real change, they should convince carriers to deprecate SMS and require a new protocol (RCS) entirely.
Is this commercial for iPhone users? Like any of us actually care? Everyone I know who is worth talking to has an iPhone or I’ve converted to iPhone over the years. Messages is so far above and beyond, it’s one of the highest rated things about Apple’s ecosystem. They know it brings more people to Apple which is why they’re spending millions on ads. They won’t if it didn’t benefit them and hurt Apple.
I think they’re barking up the wrong tree. If they want real change, they should convince carriers to deprecate SMS and require a new protocol (RCS) entirely.
Part of the problem is the US insistence on using SMS. We should've moved to something better by now but here we are. By better I mean encrypted chat services, not RCS, its just the same problem with a different name.
The European Union is already prepping up legislation forcing all the tech companies to alter their proprietary messaging services to work together, seamlessly. It’s just a matter of time..
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I wish that Apple would support RCS, but then, I wish that the SoC in my Google Pixel 6a was not a few years behind the rest.
I remember when Google had this really awesome messaging app called Hangouts that included video calls, flawless cross-platform features, and even SMS fallback, and was basically the easiest, most seamless way to get in contact with anyone who had a Google account.
(Of course, in true Google fashion, they took an amazing product and spent the next several years hobbling it and doing everything they could to make it worse, before finally killing it for good. But for a short, glorious moment in time, they actually did solve cross-platform messaging.)
I think Google would have much more success trying to bring back Hangouts rather than running ads for some messaging protocol that most people don't care about.
(Of course, in true Google fashion, they took an amazing product and spent the next several years hobbling it and doing everything they could to make it worse, before finally killing it for good. But for a short, glorious moment in time, they actually did solve cross-platform messaging.)
I think Google would have much more success trying to bring back Hangouts rather than running ads for some messaging protocol that most people don't care about.
A very long read, but here's the history of Google messaging systems from 2005 - 2021 from Ars Technica. The fractured and self-competing nature of Google's messaging services is was I feel gives Apple pause in adopting any protocol from Google.
arstechnica.com
A decade and a half of instability: The history of Google messaging apps
Sixteen years after the launch of Google Talk, Google messaging is still a mess.
arstechnica.com
I don't actually care whether someone I'm texting uses iPhone or Android. Google and Samsung are the ones making a big deal out of it and keep reminding me over and over that they don't have iMessage. At least that's how it is for me.