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This article is crap, I intend to buy a couple of them here as soon as they go on sale.
 
Umm. No. try Google.
The phrase would be: "iPad mini stereo speakers"
Nice try though...

Lol. What... next to each other on the same side of the device?

Unless you have some sort of bizarre cranial deformity, you're going to want the speakers on opposite ends of the device to get a stereo effect when you're viewing media in landscape.

The hoops that fanboys jump through to declare a 'win'... I'm embarassed for you... :eek: :D
 
Specs mean absolutely nothing if your software sucks.

And why the hell is the bezel 2x3 feet?
Well, just to buck the trend -- I'm a long-time Apple fan and Mac user, but I bought a Nexus 7 to replace my 1st gen iPad. Heck, even my parents-in-law have a Nexus 7, and if they can figure out how to use it, the software is just fine.

The width of the bezel makes no practical difference when you're holding it in your hand, other than keeping some fingerprints off the screen.
 
It is on my Nexus 7 at least. I use it and an iPhone 5 on a daily basis, and the Nexus is noticeably less smooth during scrolls and animations. However, I would love to get my hands on the new one and see how it manages :D

it is pretty laggy on my Nexus 7 as well. The lag is the tablets biggest complaint from what I have always read.

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I wish Apple would take sound quality seriously.

I'd buy this over an iPad mini as a media playback device. Mono sound sucks, and Apple needs to up their game.

The mini has stereo speakers.
 
I ordered one. Looked like an interesting toy to play with. I bought an original Nexus 7 before the iPad mini came out. Screen sounds pretty impressive.
 
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Maybe people aren't selling their iPads to Gazelle for a massive markdown. Maybe they're selling on Craigslist. Just saying.
 
This is such a stupid analysis. Maybe the reason iPad owners are not trading in with Gazelle is that their offers are crap. Maybe they are selling their iPads locally. Just because they are not seeing iPad trade-ins does not mean that iPad owners are not attracted. What a dumb analysis.
 
And in other news, the sun came up today.

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I ordered one. Looked like an interesting toy to play with. I bought an original Nexus 7 before the iPad mini came out. Screen sounds pretty impressive.

I bought the first Nexus 7 when it first came out, also. Just to see what had happened to Android since the last time I had owned one (6 devices total). It was the best Android device I've ever owned. But in the end it was still an Android. So I sold it for $15 more than I paid for it.
 
Here's what's misleading about this headline...

Not everyone trades in their tech to get new tech. Many people pass it on or keep multiple devices.
 
Maybe that's because you can get double what Gazelle offers by selling your iPad on eBay or craigslist. How many iPads are traded into Gazelle anyway?

Do eBay and Craigslist offer more for non iPads too?

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Here's what's misleading about this headline...

Not everyone trades in their tech to get new tech. Many people pass it on or keep multiple devices.

Yet they say they saw a huge increase in Nexus 7 trade ins.
 
apparently you don't need a retina display because your eyes (and many others on here) can't tell the difference between the screen and the bezel.

Your own eyes don't seem the best since you apparently can't see that even considering the task bar the bezel is still much bigger than the ipad Mini.

Thing is ugly. Simple as.
 
Yet they say they saw a huge increase in Nexus 7 trade ins.

So that doesn't mean the Nexus "fails" to attract iPad owners. It just means that people are not ALSO trading in their iPads.

I have an iPad. If I got a Nexus 7 - I wouldn't trade mine in. First of all - they are two different sizes. Second - I have a wife and child would could use the iPad still when I'm not using it.

I don't think I'm an exception either. Again - the headline doesn't tell the whole story.

More accurately - No increase in iPad trade-ins on Launch of Nexus 7

"Fails to Attract" cannot be determined.
 
what about the many people, including me, that want iOS without the stickiness and no restrictions? I'd gladly 'voluntarily' not have to accept the 'only one app store' terms

What about you? I don't think you seem to understand the term "voluntary". Apple has offered a product which you don't like. It seems to me you are doing right by yourself to not buy it.

And this is exactly the point I was making. That if you accept what Apple has to offer, you get a nice ecosystem. If not, then the "stickiness" has no negative impact on you.

I'd rather really own my device
I also think you don't understand the term "own". I fully own my iOS devices, and so would you were to you to buy one. What makes you think otherwise?
 
Maybe folks who have the iPad mini are interested in trying a new device as well as keeping their Apple product. At $229, I'm sure some folks are simply buying a Nexus 7 and keeping their Mini as well. Our household has a 4S, Nexus 4, iPad and Nexus 7.... looking to add a Lumia 925 in the near future.... can't we all just get along?
 
Maybe folks who have the iPad mini are interested in trying a new device as well as keeping their Apple product. At $229, I'm sure some folks are simply buying a Nexus 7 and keeping their Mini as well. Our household has a 4S, Nexus 4, iPad and Nexus 7.... looking to add a Lumia 925 in the near future.... can't we all just get along?

That was my point. The headline here and "determination" is false logic.
 
"This is somewhat unsurprising given the "lock-in" that Apple's iOS ecosystem exhibits. During Tuesday's third quarter earnings call, Tim Cook spoke about Apple's efforts to get buyers into the iOS ecosystem, saying "the stickiness of the platform is huge and it's great for customers."

Apple has me caught to its web with so many apps, movies and soon to be books, I cannot make the switch to android. On a positive note Apple wins for design the Nexus 7 like the Galaxy S4 gives an Apple user the impression that Samsung's products are cheaply built.
 
So that doesn't mean the Nexus "fails" to attract iPad owners. It just means that people are not ALSO trading in their iPads.
No, it means that no one is trading in their iPads for one.

I have an iPad. If I got a Nexus 7 - I wouldn't trade mine in. First of all - they are two different sizes. Second - I have a wife and child would could use the iPad still when I'm not using it.
Notice how you aren't providing a counter-example. "If" you got a Nexus 7.

But you didn't. Hence you are proving the article correct.

I don't think I'm an exception either.
And neither do I. You, like the vast majority of iPad owners, will not be getting a Nexus 7 any time soon.

Again - the headline doesn't tell the whole story.
It never claimed to. It claimed to provide a single data point.

More accurately - No increase in iPad trade-ins on Launch of Nexus 7
That's exactly what it stated.

"Fails to Attract" cannot be determined.
Yes, it can. And this is the first data point to demonstrate that. I'm not sure why you're having such a hard time following it. Did you expect a 100% proof of an absolute claim?
 
This is why people make fun of apple apologists.

Most of what you are calling "bezel" is the bottom and top menubars on the screen.

See this image:

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ipad mini on left, new nexus 7 on right. adjusted contrast so you can see where the screen stops and the bexel begins. Side bezels are nearly identical. I feel like I should point out that the Nexus on the right has twice the DPI of the ipad mini next to it, and an extra 1.2 million pixels of real estate. But yeah, go ahead and talk about how clunky it is compared to the ipad.

I didn't compare it to the iPad :p and an Apple "apologist"? The only Apple products I own are Macs.

The Nexus 7 is ugly in my opinion and there is still too much bezel.
 
what about the many people, including me, that want iOS without the stickiness and no restrictions? I'd gladly 'voluntarily' not have to accept the 'only one app store' terms

I'd rather really own my device

I have got the feeling you don't know what stickiness mean
 
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