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Google's 'Project Tango' Smartphone Uses Apple's PrimeSense Technology

pgiguere1 said:
You bought a specific BMW car, not the BMW company. If someone used your specific BMW car, it would be correct to say he used OldSchoolMacGuy's car.

Your analogy would work only if Apple bought specific PrimeSense products. They bought the whole company.
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Pretty you sure you know what he meant....so many smartasses here
 
Renzatic said:
The next big tech revolution will be brought to us by PCP and bath salt addicts. The hippies had their day. It's time to bring in the psychotics!
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and yet I have failed to come up with anything worth of note :mad:
 
LordVic said:
and yet I have failed to come up with anything worth of note :mad:
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You need to do more PCP.
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LordVic said:
Or, instead of looking at it with some sort of conspiracy thoery or malice, maybe Google does it because they are techno junkies and love trying out new thoeries and ideas, even if they dont necessarily have a viable monetary reward for such and are attempting to try new technologies for advancement sake and not pure profit (since they make profit elsewhere).

Where, Apple runs their tech advancement as a pure profit house. only things that are profitable are developed, and technologies that might actually make life better can be often ignored and forgotten by them since it's not profitable enough for their time and effort.

but no. Of course for you it's easier to believe Google is just a failure of a company and only does it for PR.

BTW, while google has had it's share of projects that go nowhere... Apple has their share of failures in the past as well...
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First your idea of someone looking at something with some sort of conspiracy thoery or malice - is way off.

Second, assuming it is a conspiracy theory you are arguing against, it doesnt make a very good argument when you suggest another similar idea that by your definition would also be a conspiracy theory... Just because Apple is secretive about what they are working on does not mean they are in it for the profit only - they just dont want people to get hyped on products that will never exist and thus tarnish the Apple name for unfulfilled promises (anyone remember what caused Sega to drop out of the console race?).

really you just completely missed the point of the OP - comparing Apple and Google business practices is like comparing Apples and Oranges... they have a different idea of the image they want for their company.

Lastly, its been a well known fact that for years many companies marketing strategy is to get their name in the headlines as much as possible and be "transparent" with what you are working on to build hype even if you know a product will never exist all for PR. And it has also been a well known fact for even longer that Apple does not believe in that type of marketing strategy. So the OP was backed by facts, and your argument was not...
 
newagemac said:
I know. It's pretty laughable if you think about it. I notice Google announces a lot of stuff without actually bringing something real to the market that people can actually buy. Sounds like just a bunch of Google PR fluff so they can make headlines in blogs to me. And it seems like a lot of people are starting to recognize it for what it is and point it out.
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Actually, Google is trying to reduce Apple & other's innovative relevance in the worlds eyes. By showing off dozens of amazing concepts every month and buying innovative companies every month, Google essentially attracts more long-term stock investors, the tech world's admiration as the new innovative company, and seals their place in our minds as irreplaceable. Their search business makes so much money, that these projects are chump change and therefore worth it just to build the innovative reputation. In other words, they do this to keep you hooked on Google so you more easily dismiss or despise yahoo, bing, Siri or any other competitor.
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Well.....

Apple does not develop the technology. Owns it......So I dont know if in the impending wars between all the smartphone makers, Apple would or can restrict use of their IP to another phone makers....:confused:


:):apple:
 
LordVic said:
why? because there's no beta testing like public beta testing.

There's only so much testing you can do in a lab. The best way is to get the objects to be tested in the hands of as many you can to do real world testing...

MAYBE if apple did that for the iphone 4, the Antenna gate issue might have been avoided
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I can't believe that people still think that "Antenna Gate" was an exclusive Apple problem. Every cell phone on the market had the same problem, including my old Motorola Flip Phone. No one brought the industry wide problem to national focus until Apple was outselling everyone else combined. To this day cell phone reception diminishes when you hold your hand around the antenna. It’s not possible to defy the basic laws of physics. But now, algorithms are built in to prevent the signal strength meter from instantly showing the change.
 
Don't know anything about this technology, but Apple has developed a bad habit of sitting on its hands and milking incremental spec-bump upgrades of it iPhone and iPad line.
 
OldSchoolMacGuy said:
Typical MacRumors headline. Not really Apple technology other than Apple bought the business. It's like saying my car isn't a BMW but rather a OldSchoolMacGuy because I bought it.
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So then Android isn't really Google's technology.

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LordVic said:
Or, instead of looking at it with some sort of conspiracy thoery or malice, maybe Google does it because they are techno junkies and love trying out new thoeries and ideas, even if they dont necessarily have a viable monetary reward for such and are attempting to try new technologies for advancement sake and not pure profit (since they make profit elsewhere).

Where, Apple runs their tech advancement as a pure profit house. only things that are profitable are developed, and technologies that might actually make life better can be often ignored and forgotten by them since it's not profitable enough for their time and effort.

but no. Of course for you it's easier to believe Google is just a failure of a company and only does it for PR.

BTW, while google has had it's share of projects that go nowhere... Apple has their share of failures in the past as well...
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Yeah, you just described Apple with a conspiracy theory and malice - hypocrite much? Apple picks and chooses technology based on what they think is useful in their product and mature enough to not complicate their devices needlessly. The fact you point to profitability as Apple's first choice shows that you really don't know very much about the company.

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OldSchoolMacGuy said:
Well taking a look at your financials I see why you can't buy a BMW. Yes I have one along with a couple others. Would it have been better if I would have said Acura? You still would have been butt hurt.
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It would have been better if you avoided making such silly statements. You didn't buy any company at all...

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Col4bin said:
Don't know anything about this technology, but Apple has developed a bad habit of sitting on its hands and milking incremental spec-bump upgrades of it iPhone and iPad line.
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Huh? I think in the case of every iPhone there has been a major spec bump of some kind...especially the 5S, which was quite recent. As for the iPad, the formfactor just changed...what more do you want?

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Illusion986 said:
Pretty you sure you know what he meant....so many smartasses here
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Yes, and what he meant was useless. Here's a car analogy that would work: Ford bought BMW, and Chevy was found to be using one of BMW's parts for its newest car...so, Chevy is now using Ford technology.
 
How exactly did Google beat Apple?

Google doesn't have a product out and if they don't already have purchasing contracts for the technology, Apple could just not let Google use the technology since they OWN THE COMPANY!

Of course, there will probably be litigation on this now depending on the contracts Google has.

Finally, no one knows what Apple has in the works since Apple is much more secretive than Google. Google loves to brag about its technology long before its ready for primetime.
 
69Mustang said:
That's not true. Apple hasn't used the Primesense chip in any of their released products. They might in the future though.
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true. Apple buys companies to prevent competitors from getting their hands on the tech.
 
newagemac said:
For $1500? Google didn't let anyone do anything but make fool out of themselves for spending a freaking $1500 to buy something Google already clearly said was not worth it at that price. I mean seriously, people claim Apple users are gullible for paying $1500 for a top of the line laptop. What then does that make of the Google gullibles who buy Google Glass?
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The people who want to drop $1500 on a Glass prototype, are the same people bidding up Glass like crazy on eBay. They know about it, and want to experiment with it, either as a user or developer.

Sure, it'd be even nicer if Google gave them away... since the feedback helps them to fine-tune things like the Android Wear watch interface, and Google Now cards, both of which are closely related... but it was still nice to let anyone in who wanted.

For that matter, the openness of the project is no doubt also helping other companies... including Apple... decide what to do (or not) with their future products.

Millah said:
You know what else would be great? If David Copperfield gave an in-depth explanation about his big magic tricks prior to performing them.
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One of my daughter's favorite TV shows is the Masked Magician, who reveals magic secrets.

Sort of ruins the whole magic thing though, doesn't it?
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One of the reasons many people love Penn & Teller is that they explain in detail how they pull off their tricks.

Prototypes don't need to be kept secret. Many people look forward to reading about concept cars, for example. Heck, this very forum is about figuring out what Apple's doing ahead of time.
 
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OldSchoolMacGuy said:
Well taking a look at your financials I see why you can't buy a BMW. Yes I have one along with a couple others. Would it have been better if I would have said Acura? You still would have been butt hurt.
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Oops, I guess I forgot to update my quarterly financial report on MacRumors. :rolleyes:

I was joking b/c it's such a pedestrian car, yet for some reason people who have one are so impressed with themselves. Look at me and my entry level luxury sedan. lol I love it.
 
Lol! RDF much?

newagemac said:
The problem people have with Google and their PR campaigns is that Google isn't actually bringing out any projects to make the world better, they are just talking about them. It's all still in the labs. Over the last 10-15 years, Apple has released iPods, iPhones, and iPads. Products that profoundly changed and made a difference in people's lives.

I haven't seen a single industry Google has completely revolutionized like the iPod, iPhone, and iPad in the same time frame. The last industry Google completely revolutionized was search and the last time they did that was in the 1990's. You can't buy a Project Ara phone, you can't go to a car lot and buy a driverless car, and Google Glass is by almost all accounts a poorly thought out project and at $1500 a ridiculous price.

There is absolutely nothing special about showing off unfinished ideas that you can't seem to get right. All big tech companies have some really cool "Projects" in their labs that will blow your minds based on what's possible. Because that's the easy part. We put a man on the moon over half a century ago so that doesn't mean much. Google seems to be the only company that wants to show off these projects as if they have actually accomplished something. Even though lots of big companies have this stuff in their labs as well. It's all just PR.

Google can't ever seem to put out a great new innovation that completely changes an industry the way Apple does with products like the iPod, iPhone, and iPad. They have revolutionized the way ads are put in your face and bringing down privacy standards though. I'lll give them that.
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And probably Apple created god on the zeroeth day too.. right? I don't even know where to start on this reply..
 
OldSchoolMacGuy said:
Typical MacRumors headline. Not really Apple technology other than Apple bought the business. It's like saying my car isn't a BMW but rather a OldSchoolMacGuy because I bought it.
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No that would be like Apple buying a chip and calling it their technology. The correct analogy would be if you bought Bayerische Motoren Werke AG, surely?
 
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