As long as these things are all options, the app won't be slower unless you turn them on.
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Google's Work Toward Standalone iOS Maps App Complicated by Integration with Google Earth
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As long as these things are all options, the app won't be slower unless you turn them on.
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Please just realease a Maps app like the old one, I don't really care about 3D.
you can always add 3D in future releases. But for now I just want a fast, accurate, Google maps app that replaces the functionality of the old iOS maps app, Adding 3D, turn-by-turn, or other features would be welcome but could certainly be implemented in future versions of the app.
Please just realease a Maps app like the old one, I don't really care about 3D.
you can always add 3D in future releases. But for now I just want a fast, accurate, Google maps app that replaces the functionality of the old iOS maps app, Adding 3D, turn-by-turn, or other features would be welcome but could certainly be implemented in future versions of the app.
I agree here, at the very best, by the time a Google Maps app is released, Apple probably will have cleaned up their mess.
However, I can see the Google Maps app having the Street View and Public Transportation, features at a lot of people want. And I can also see Apple waiting until iOS 7 or later to add this, and that can end up hurting them in the long run.
It's not all about mistakes, like Irish farm land being mistaken for an airstrip, but lost features as well. But in the end, it is good competition.
Wow ok, THANKS GOOGLE!!!!! Happy now??
BTW, Apple still hasn't ditched Google as a search option.
Now should we be happy at Apple??
Frankly its a waste of my time to "manually" fix apples maps, I work in software development for a living and get paid for correcting issues in data, in my free time I do not need to offer a free service....why?.... cause I paid 700 pounds for this phone, Its a Premium product. If this was a start up, and I was supporting them, I would happily contribute my time, but not to a company that has 100 Billion in the bank! Apple is just being tight, just like the cheapest anodising on the black iphone.
Also, you forgetting that for all the corrections, that are right, a number will be incorrect, the moderating system is going to slow it down.
The fundamental problem is DATA, time for apple to drop some $$ and buy a proper dataset. Its not for the followers to devote their time, its for apple to buy a proper dataset.
The turn by turn addition is wasted, I had Google maps and I had tomtom, best of both worlds. Apple maps with turn by turn is useless to me cause I will use tomtom app anyway. The people that are loving the turn by turn, are frankly just too tight to purchase the tomtom app, and are praising how awesome applemaps is.
The biggest problem in the debate on macrumors around this subject is that the Americans do not realise how awful the maps functionality is if your not using it for turn by turn on major rounds.
I work at the BBC, we have managed to loose BBC worldwide, and a couple of tube stops near it. As a bonus we gained a Train route...wtf?? - Its actually the hammersmith and city tube line, but hey maps thinks its a train station, and the BBC has been moved from White City to Hammersmith...awesome! Jesus, the BBC is in whitecity, not Hammersmith.
These are not little issues. I would not trust these maps travelling.
iOS6 is not that great
Apple Maps obviously needs allot of work.. Steve would have never released a program which is half complete. There seems to be some changes in iOS6 which is making Apple more like microsoft.. dark interfaces, life-like tabs, Music looks more like Zune. What made Apple cool and different was that it brought computers out of the dark and gave it light by making it bright and simple.
Apple Maps obviously needs allot of work.. Steve would have never released a program which is half complete. There seems to be some changes in iOS6 which is making Apple more like microsoft.. dark interfaces, life-like tabs, Music looks more like Zune. What made Apple cool and different was that it brought computers out of the dark and gave it light by making it bright and simple.
Right, just like Google didn't beat Yahoo, MapQuest and Hotmail because of the 'years ahead in experience' and big teams those guys had right?
Yes, but if a really obvious POI isn't listed I have to use 'My problem isn't listed'?
How come I can't just drop a pin and submit that as a POI?
The more I look at this the debacle the more I just can't believe what Apple has done.
Of all these iOS apps, 0 of them are absolutely necessary since most or all are accessible by other means on iOS. And Google would hurt themselves as they would alienate people from their product and potentially lose a large source of their data collection.
Steve would have, and did, release MANY apps, computers, ads, and even companies 'half-baked' or complete. And he didn't care one bit. Some products got better with time (Mac, iPod, iPhone, iPad.... and YES they were half-baked in their release, maybe you just don't remember the articles everywhere), while other got the axe (the Cube, and soon Ping).
Maps is a half-baked product, but not completely useless. And Apple has committed itself to improve it. So in the WORST case scenario, all this competition is good.
Imaginary Steve is the Ronald Reagan of the tech world. If only Steve were here. Together, Steve and Ronny, with help from Jack Kennedy, would solve all the world's problems.
I Just realize that Apple probably has a part in the patents on the old maps app.
So I cant imagine Google is allowed to just put the old app in store.
I think Google really needs to create a completely new app. mmmm....
The Youtube app was perfectly in Time. So I don't think they where offguard...
So I cant imagine Google is allowed to just put the old app in store.
I think Google really needs to create a completely new app. mmmm....
The Youtube app was perfectly in Time. So I don't think they where offguard...
You need to look more closely then
It's not that bad, and it's certainly not permanent.And there is an option to drop a pin and submit it as a POI. You can even put the category.
Open letter to both Google and Apple:
No one gives a flying *&%$ about your stupid 3D imagery. It's fun to play with and all, but what we really want is a way to get from point A to point B accurately. This includes transit directions and POIs that are correct and up-to-date.
If Google is truly going to hold off on releasing a Google Maps app because it will lack 3D imagery, they seriously don't understand the needs of regular people at all. Just release the damn thing already!
No one gives a flying *&%$ about your stupid 3D imagery. It's fun to play with and all, but what we really want is a way to get from point A to point B accurately. This includes transit directions and POIs that are correct and up-to-date.
If Google is truly going to hold off on releasing a Google Maps app because it will lack 3D imagery, they seriously don't understand the needs of regular people at all. Just release the damn thing already!
Eventually, yes. But that also took YEARS, just like it's going to take years for Apple. And we're in another situation here as well: Something good is replaced with something inferior. That doesn't compare to your examples.
And even so, I don't see Google turning into Yahoo or MapQuest anytime soon. These companies rested on their laurels for years. Google appears to be a vibrant company still. But who knows... I'm not saying Apple doesn't have a chance at all. They're just years behind and it's going to be very touch catching up.
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You make it sound as if he was fine with that. Well, I remember his words about MobileMe. Ouch. I wonder what he would've said to the Maps team now...
Pillage Google Maps
I don't see why Apple couldn't start bouncing their points-of-interest and other criteria against the same in Google Maps to improve accuracy.
I don't see why Apple couldn't start bouncing their points-of-interest and other criteria against the same in Google Maps to improve accuracy.
Thing is they don't have to catch up. The POI database needs improving but that'll come pretty quickly as users report issues and, especially, if Apple allow businesses to add listings they way Google did. Same for accuracy of mapping data. Google's underlying map data hasn't really taken any major jumps forward in a couple of years that I can think of, the changes have been additional services on top like street view. The basic dataset can match up in a relatively short space of time for most users and in the medium term the vast majority of users will find it good enough.
The additional services part I agree with, Apple alone can't catch up. The thing is though, they don't need to. Google HAS to build the additional services to keep the revenue coming in via ads and subscriptions. Apple can realise revenue through hardware and app sales. The public transit info is a prime example - Apple have deliberately designed their app (and therefore data) to be extendable by third parties. In that way they can catch up and even exceed Google's services very quickly while offering a potentially much richer service as users tailor the environment to their exact requirements from a bunch of competing apps.
What we're seeing here is different business models resulting in different approaches. For a V1 Apple have actually done a pretty damn good job and the detail will fill in now it's public. The rest will come later but I really think that 'later' might not be as far away as some seem to think.
Inferior in some aspects only. I'm comparing it with the previous iOS 5.1.1 version of Maps. In terms of features, the new one is way better. The data part is being addressed as we speak and I don't think it will take years. Apple is strangely as vital as when Steve was alive, proof of it are these new app's features and UI.
Also, you talk of 'years of catching up'? Yeah well, I trust Apple in catching up. They did so incredibly well with the iPod (there were other mp3 players at the time), iPhone (remember blackberry?), and iPad (not the first tablet by a long shot). So, Apple 'catching up' doesn't really bother me one bit.
And, again, this is only getting more and more interesting and better for us consumers.
Apple has a way to go. Depending upon your area, Apple maps may be just fine. I can tell you that in NYC they are missing some very necessary transit information. Everyone I know with an iPhone 5 is complaining about it, so I do think that when Google releases their app, there will be many customers.
True, I think most people could see this coming, Apple not waiting till their contract expired with Google is a common business tactic to gain competitive edge. Bottom line is Google should have been ready for this, and not being ready has given Apple a chance to get their maps in there and get the data rolling in while everyone is stuck with no choice. Apple maps should improve quickly and by the time Google get their act together many people will be used to Apple maps and won't be bothered to change. If Google had their app ready on day one, pretty much no one would be using Apple maps now.
