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Google's Work Toward Standalone iOS Maps App Complicated by Integration with Google Earth
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don't really use google earth or 3d or sat view at all in daily life so IDGAF about that feature.
it would be good to have competition and choice in the TbyT arena and in the general mapping of POIs
Don't really care about youtube, g+ (nobody uses this except google employees), or anything - i like chrome but could live without it. i like gmail but its no better than any other email out there - its just an address for me. easily changed to something else.
in short - competition good. but if there isn't, i can live with apple maps and what it will eventually be. its fine for me now. and transit and embark take care of public trans just fine.
it would be good to have competition and choice in the TbyT arena and in the general mapping of POIs
Don't really care about youtube, g+ (nobody uses this except google employees), or anything - i like chrome but could live without it. i like gmail but its no better than any other email out there - its just an address for me. easily changed to something else.
in short - competition good. but if there isn't, i can live with apple maps and what it will eventually be. its fine for me now. and transit and embark take care of public trans just fine.
Yes I AM saying he was fine with launching them. And he was wrong. And he DID get mad later when he found out he was wrong. That's life: We do, we mess up, we learn. He understood that. He got mad, but he understood it and moved on. And he created a WHOLE company based around this philosophy called Apple, Inc. And they still act that way. And you're forgetting the press release of Apple regarding Maps, and the rumors that the maps team is now on lockdown.
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You know, I'm not going to go around fixing things just to fix things unless I'm bored. But if I am somewhere or looking for something and notice it's wrong, I'll report it *shrug*. Not a big deal.
Not to mention that finding that much data if Apple just tried to hire people would take a much longer time to accumulate than if people just report things as they find it. one reason Google is so good is cause they have a large database, they have a search engine, their whole business is getting people to report information to them (for free. By offering services for free back). They would not have gotten so good data if they just paid people to find it. Though they did offer services for free and paid for the upkeep of the services. Services that got a lot of people using them and a lot of information they could gather. That's Google's specialty is gathering info.
And why Apple has a huge task ahead of them if they even want to come close to approximating Google. Google has a lot more data and a lot more ways of collecting data than Yelp (who Apple is paying to get info from).
This is one of Apple's way of trying to gather info, offer a maps app and have people report if they find something wrong. They don't have a very popular search engine, they have failed on social networking. And you're naive if you think they can just hire people to get all that data. Cause that is inefficient and won't work. That's not how Google did it at all.
Fine, don't report errors. But don't yell at Apple for wanting people to do so. Cause honestly, that's what Google does to get their info. THey're just better at convincing people to do so.
At this point, unless Apple opens up Siri interaction to third-party navigation apps (which I know is unlikely), I'm sticking with Apple Maps whenever possible. When absolutely necessary, I'll be falling back to MotionX GPS Drive when Apple Maps is incorrect.
I upgraded from the iPhone 4 to the iPhone 5. After using Siri to get directions two or three times, I'm hooked and will continue to do it that way whenever possible. For being in beta, I think Siri's voice recognition and parsing abilities are pretty amazing.
That being said, I wonder how quickly Apple is parsing the corrections that are being submitted to them? I submitted two corrections in my neighborhood last Friday and the map data has still not been updated. I wonder if that means they're either swamped with corrections or they're just in "freeze" mode as they're evaluating their next steps.
Heard a great idea on MacBreak Weekly yesterday. Apple should offer App Store credit for map data corrections. Every 10 corrections is worth, say, $1.00 in the App Store. Of course, you'd have people taking advantage of that and "correcting" things that are already correct; but there's enough wrong out there that people could probably get $25 or $50 in store credit pretty quickly just from driving around their metro area fixing errors.
I upgraded from the iPhone 4 to the iPhone 5. After using Siri to get directions two or three times, I'm hooked and will continue to do it that way whenever possible. For being in beta, I think Siri's voice recognition and parsing abilities are pretty amazing.
That being said, I wonder how quickly Apple is parsing the corrections that are being submitted to them? I submitted two corrections in my neighborhood last Friday and the map data has still not been updated. I wonder if that means they're either swamped with corrections or they're just in "freeze" mode as they're evaluating their next steps.
Heard a great idea on MacBreak Weekly yesterday. Apple should offer App Store credit for map data corrections. Every 10 corrections is worth, say, $1.00 in the App Store. Of course, you'd have people taking advantage of that and "correcting" things that are already correct; but there's enough wrong out there that people could probably get $25 or $50 in store credit pretty quickly just from driving around their metro area fixing errors.
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Google doesn't really charge for their software, they make money in other ways. So, yes, I think they are in a rush to put out commonly-used software. They did not write the pre-iOS6 app, they can't just update it.
I really couldn't give less of a crap about this 3D stuff. It's slow to download, and honestly it's the kind of thing you mess around with for like 1/2 an hour the first time, then maybe open it once in a while to play with it.
Maps. We just need good maps. Google Street View is a useful extra thing, but even that I can live without.
And bonus points if there aren't freaking Yelp links all over the place, featured as prominently as the street names.
Maps. We just need good maps. Google Street View is a useful extra thing, but even that I can live without.
And bonus points if there aren't freaking Yelp links all over the place, featured as prominently as the street names.
BS, I use it and i don't even think I have any google employees in my circles.
And it's pretty busy and honestly, I get a lot more interesting posts to read than I do on FB. Besides, I trust Google over FB (not saying I fully trust Google, after all they are in the business of trying to get whatever info out of you to use as product, but they are not as sleezy as FB).
But I will say G+ is full of Google enthusiusts. And don't dare act like some one who likes Apple, most of them are very anti-Apple over there (and yes they are having a field day over every little controversy about iOS6 or iPhone 5). That's the one downside. And they get ridiculous about their Apple hate (they are as obnoxious as the apple fanboys they claim "started it").
This whole thing with the maps is so overblown it's ridiculous. I've been using the new app almost every day and it gets me from point A to point B without any problems. Yes, it's not as accurate as Google Maps, but, especially if you have an actual address, it's usually good enough. It's not the end of the world, people.
All these months of iOS 6 betas and Google was somehow taken by surprise?
Edit: Okay, apparently Google has been surprised since June.
and some one shows how little they understand about development and time it takes. If the thing was till on the drawing board and not in the design phase at all you then have a few months in design before you can really get cracking on the code part. Design needs to get a little lead on the development part.
It is not something can be slapped together in a few weeks or months. Something like this a fast time frame would be 6 months. That does not account for testing which they will do by far a better job than Apple did with its maps.
The map data is 100% correct. The issues are with the real world, not the map data. To correct the real world, stop going to restaurants which aren't on the map. This will eventually put them out of business and bring the incorrect real world into alignment with the 100% correct Apple Maps world. Is your house showing up across town and in the middle of a river? Well guess what, you built your house in the wrong spot! This is an easy to correct problem. Simply move your belongings to the correct location in Apple Maps.
The fact that people are complaining about user error is simply mind boggling to me.
The fact that people are complaining about user error is simply mind boggling to me.
Erm, you can do exactly that, I just reported doing it that way, drop a pin, click on it and scroll down, there is a button to report a problem
You're right, the whole thing is pretty fishy. It's possible that a lot of the confusion and negativity in the press around Apple's maps is being driven in part by Google.
i want to know where they got that screen shot of the transamerica pyramid because when i look at that building in google earth on my iphone 4, it looks like it is falling over.
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=15856463#post15856463
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=15856463#post15856463
You don't. You just wait two months for Apple to destroy Google and magically make everything better. Though until that happens, you're not allowed to leave the house.
Sorry, man. No Indian food for you tonight.
Lets face it, people. If there's one company that can do in two months what took these other stupid companies (who don't know what they're doing) years to do, it's Apple. Two months is all it'll take. You mark my words. By that time, Google Maps will look like the knockoff stolen product that it is.
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The Earth as seen through the eyes of Salvador Dali. Good ole Apple. Always being artistic and avant garde while everyone else wallows in their complete lack of taste and imagination.
100% agree... even I knew it was coming, Google will lose in the mid-to-long term because of this, and Apple will take a slight bashing in the short term. Give Apple's Map App about 2 years, and it will be the gold standard for mapping, maybe even one whole year.
I just wonder if Apple will allow it through a web-based interface ever, probably not...
We have a local mapping company in town, they only make maps for our area. They are always behind the new construction. TT and Garmin and others are the same way, worse. How is one company, regardless of size, supposed to be that fast for every corner on the planet?
You should at least be happy some people are willing to submit user data. Which concept TT introduced first, btw. Before there was an Appstore.
So just convert Google Earth into a real mapping app. Google Earth is too much of a hog and too slow to be useful anyway.
Design? You are aware that Google has been doing map apps for a decade or something. They won't even have map testing to do, that goes on every day right now via Android apps and web access. Anything to tell someone here they are wrong, though.
My guess is that in "a couple months" Apple will have most of the bugs worked out of their maps app especially now that people are pointing out the flaws. The integration with iOS will be much better than a stand alone app. If Google wants to keep their dominance they need to get it out much sooner than that.