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How this works, how Navizon works.

Okay, as has been mentioned, this is *NOT* "GPS", which stands for "Global Positioning System", a 'constellation' of satellites orbiting the earth that just broadcast a time beacon. *THIS* is "Cell triangulation" or "WiFi approximation". Cell triangulation works on a similar principle to GPS, only using nearby cell towers whose physical locations are known. WiFi approximation is simply mapping out WiFi access points on a map, and if you're connected to an access point whose location is known, you're probably within 200 feet of that AP.

Navizon has a user-created database of cell towers and WiFi access points. The company isn't doing squat, as far as I can tell, it's all user generated. So if no users are in your area yet, there will be no data.

For example, the city of Portland, Oregon has a new public WiFi network going in whose AP locations are well documented, it should be theoretically possible to enter all those AP locations into Navizon's database, and as long as you're within the coverage of Portland's WiFi network, you should get a reasonably accurate location. Cell towers are harder, because someone has to manually enter those into a database using more obscure info than WiFi APs. (Navizon's database add interface has been down all day, so I can't find out, but I'm assuming that adding a WiFi access point should be as simple as "The internet connection I'm connected with is located *here*.")
 
Seems to work very well here... (Colorado Springs, CO)

FWIW, this will get better as time goes on.. the Navizon software uses a database of cellphone towers and WiFi bases that have been submitted via users with GPS units... So if no one has 'logged' your area yet, you're not going to get any results ;)

If you have a GPS and navizon capable device (See navizon.com for details...) you can help out and get paid for it too!

I also live in Colorado Springs and I'm having trouble finding WiFi and Cell Towers. Is there anything special you are doing?
 
It won't get my location from my office (full signal) but when I step outside, it gets it right away, right down to the cross street.

It needs information from multiple cell towers to locate you. Your signal strenght meter only shows the strength from the closest tower. Going outside must have let your phone "see" two more towers

Those who can't get this to work may live in a network that does not have you in view of three towers all the time. Such networks can work fine for voice and data but not for location. I thought the cell companies where required to fix this so 911 calls could be located. Looks like this applxcation is taking advantage of this mandated location feature.
 
I just tried it out. My workplace is in North Hollywood, CA and moved from Westwood area a year or so ago. I tried it out while connected to WiFi and it pinpointed my location to Westwood at the exact location we used to be at.

When I turned off WiFi and tried again, it couldn't identify the Cell Site I was connected to.

Oh well. Maybe it'll get better.

It probably is accessing some public record of where you live... or maybe a database of where your cellular account was once mailed to... and in the absence of being able to triangulate a signal... defaults to whatever address of yours it can find? My guess...
 
GPS sorta

Decided to give it a try, installed no problem, registered no problem, tryed to use, got message can't find me and also locked the phone up. Had to reset the phone. Careful with this one.
 
Decided to give it a try, installed no problem, registered no problem, tryed to use, got message can't find me and also locked the phone up. Had to reset the phone. Careful with this one.


You obviously did not restart the phone after installing like you need to do for just about every software application on the planet for computers, or in this case, about 80% of 3rd party apps for iPhone.

If you install an app, and your phone crashes when u go to use it, its your own fault for not restarting in the first place like YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO.

Be careful with your own lack of common sense.
 
You obviously did not restart the phone after installing like you need to do for just about every software application on the planet for computers, or in this case, about 80% of 3rd party apps for iPhone.

If you install an app, and your phone crashes when u go to use it, its your own fault for not restarting in the first place like YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO.

Be careful with your own lack of common sense.

It is ridiculous to state that you need to restart your computer for "just about every software application". Also, I do not restart my iPhone after installing a 3rd party app and I have no little to no issues.

Be carefull with your own generalizations ;)
 
It is ridiculous to state that you need to restart your computer for "just about every software application". Also, I do not restart my iPhone after installing a 3rd party app and I have no little to no issues.

Be carefull with your own generalizations ;)
That was a bit much but its better to restart after you install an app just to be safe.
I want this to work : ) it isnt for me right now in south west vegas
 
Interesting, at my office it shows me being on the bay bridge (I am near it). Its close, but really off.

However, at my house (1/2 mile down the road) its dead accurate. I even walked outside and to the next building and it showed that tiny difference.

Few cool toy, has some uses.
 
Think i'll stick to my Nokia 6110 Navigator with GPS and get an ipod touch when they come out :)
 
Grrr

When I saw this posted while at work today the first thing I did was download and install it. Then, standing in the middle of Washington DC surrounded by wi-fi and cell towers...nothing. :(
 
Installed it today. My first application installed via AppTapp. Fired it up, joined, logged in, and it nailed my location. I was home of course, so it was useless in this case.

We'll see how it goes later.
 
an actual GPS program would cinch the deal for me and an iphone would be in my hands the next day. 3G wouldn't hurt either . . .

Yeah, I guess you don't own one..yet.
I haven't gotten the phone service to work for the last week On my Iphone and I still think it rocks, best ipod, do it all thing ever!
Nothing else comes close.
 
Great App if it worked

I have just traveled from my home in Austin TX, no access there...no matter where I traveled to

Seattle... no access there....

NYC... yep no access there

and some airport layovers in between... yes you are right no access at any of them.

So for me this is really not a software App but more of a concept...


so if it worked it would be very useful.. hope these knuckleheads who wrote it read some of this stuff!
 
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