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Graphene May Be Next Area of Innovation for Apple and Samsung

jgassens said:
Apple is DOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMEEEEDD!
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Maybe not doomed, but the sure haven't done anything exciting in a while. You don't need a new product category, but why not new products. Tim likes to brag about his solar panels, and it being the best work of their lives, rather than making new products.

The iPod touch is still using 3 year old technology, iPod nano was ruined, the iPhone 5c two year old technology, the iMac was made thinner and weaker (why a DESKTOP needs to be thinner is beyond me) the MacBook Pro hasn't seen much of a decent update. The MacBook Air received a minor spec bump and price drop (wow, revolutionary. going to change everything............ all over again!)

They are getting sloppy with OS X releases. They just pack a bunch of features in each release every year. They could just polish each OS release and then focus on the next OS (go to a 2 or 3 year cycle)

The iPhone 5s has a faster CPU and a finger print reader (must be the best work of their lives) The only innovation as of late is the Mac Pro, and Timmy botched the launch of it, and honestly the decision to make it all external makes a nice mess.

I forgot to add, they release all these boring things at once and stay quiet for the rest of the year.

Tim might be a good CEO, but they need another guy to motivate the company. So no, Apple is far from dooooooooomed, but they sure aren't very exciting anymore.
 
SmoMo said:
Article only mentions the good things about graphite without mentioning the one big draw back.
An iPhone made of graphite can be rubbed out with any cheap eraser, such as the one on the end of a pencil.

Think that's funny? You wait until you reach for your iPhone 8 only to find some kid has erased the RAM, ROM, and half the screen.
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Don't forget the other big drawback of having to sharpen it regularly to keep it functional.
 
Strata

thatisme said:
A big problem area with Graphene is that while it is stronger than steel, it is also very brittle and has a habit of shattering like glass with a point impact. Until that downside is solved, it probably won't make sense to introduce it in devices that routinely are dropped or are subject to impacts (like watches)
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i think the idea is a kind of reverse time archeological dig.
In the middle is the latest tech Human Sapiens have discovered, so a pure graphite iPhone.

Then you purchase a thin Saphire diamond ( totally transparent ) protective case.

Then the thicker but harder wearing gorilla glass case, then an aluminium bumper.

Then a heavy duty rubber case, then some animal skin ( probably leather ), and finally you just cake the whole thing in your own dung.
 
Ah, finally! I'm very excited about this being a possibility for Apple. IBM has had some experimental projects with graphene and the results are quite astonishing!
 
Kissaragi said:
ill believe it when i see it
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but you won't see it, because it will be clear! :D


honestly, some of the comments here are just silly. So what if it takes another ten years and billions to get it to the commercial stage. This sort of materials technology is exactly where the next tech revolutions is going to happen. It's exactly why funding basic research is so important.




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SmoMo said:
So lets say I have an iPhone just 1 atom thick ( which is presumably Apple's goal in all this ).

If I tried to pick it up, would it cut my fingers off like the sharpest blade imaginable?

Or would it just sort of slide in between my finger atoms and out of the other side, but without breaking any molecular bonds in my finger atoms, and not causing any harm or bleeding???

Anyone here qualified to answer this for me?

( Either way I'll be queuing up on launch day anyway, just want to know what to expect )
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not the conclusion I came away with from this article. this is talking about the material a phone would be made of on the exterior... it would still need a battery and all other internal components...
 
ouimetnick said:
Maybe not doomed, but the sure haven't done anything exciting in a while. You don't need a new product category, but why not new products. Tim likes to brag about his solar panels, and it being the best work of their lives, rather than making new products.

The iPod touch is still using 3 year old technology, iPod nano was ruined, the iPhone 5c two year old technology, the iMac was made thinner and weaker (why a DESKTOP needs to be thinner is beyond me) the MacBook Pro hasn't seen much of a decent update. The MacBook Air received a minor spec bump and price drop (wow, revolutionary. going to change everything............ all over again!)

They are getting sloppy with OS X releases. They just pack a bunch of features in each release every year. They could just polish each OS release and then focus on the next OS (go to a 2 or 3 year cycle)

The iPhone 5s has a faster CPU and a finger print reader (must be the best work of their lives) The only innovation as of late is the Mac Pro, and Timmy botched the launch of it, and honestly the decision to make it all external makes a nice mess.

I forgot to add, they release all these boring things at once and stay quiet for the rest of the year.

Tim might be a good CEO, but they need another guy to motivate the company. So no, Apple is far from dooooooooomed, but they sure aren't very exciting anymore.
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You live in a fantasy land.

I have to ask - when were Apple exciting by your standards?

Apple may not be all things to all people, but as per their unit sales, share price and their satisfaction survey's they are doing just fine for their target demographic.

iPhone, iPad, Retina class displays, Unibody CNC milled laptops, TouchID, AirPlay, lack of malware/spyware on their mobile devices, improving supplier conditions in East Asia, pushing green technologies etc. etc... Apple have done a pretty good job over the last 6 to 7 years.
 
Sharpest blade imaginable....

SmoMo said:
So lets say I have an iPhone just 1 atom thick ( which is presumably Apple's goal in all this ).

If I tried to pick it up, would it cut my fingers off like the sharpest blade imaginable?
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If you accidentally dropped it and it landed on edge, it would likely slice effortlessly through the bedrock and end up at the center of the earth, arriving at a huge pile of lost iPhones beeping loudly as people all over the planet activated "find my iPhone" to no avail. After a huge backlash, Apple would have to offer a free bumper case.
 
Keane16 said:
You live in a fantasy land.

I have to ask - when were Apple exciting by your standards?

Apple may not be all things to all people, but as per their unit sales, share price and their satisfaction survey's they are doing just fine for their target demographic.

iPhone, iPad, Retina class displays, Unibody CNC milled laptops, TouchID, AirPlay, lack of malware/spyware on their mobile devices, improving supplier conditions in East Asia, pushing green technologies etc. etc... Apple have done a pretty good job over the last 6 to 7 years.
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His standard is pretty easy. Apple just needs to make pretty UI (in his eyes). That's all.
 
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Irresistible force..

jdiamond said:
If you accidentally dropped it and it landed on edge, it would likely slice effortlessly through the bedrock and end up at the center of the earth, arriving at a huge pile of lost iPhones beeping loudly as people all over the planet activated "find my iPhone" to no avail. After a huge backlash, Apple would have to offer a free bumper case.
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That's the short term solution, a few months later Apple will release graphene carpets, graphene tarmac, even genetically engineered graphene grass. The only materials able to halt the fall of 1-atom thick graphene iPhone.

Unfortuantly, also the only materials able to break a falling 1-atom thick graphene iPhone.
So the whole world is basically back at the iPhone 3G stage again, but it was a a fun ride.
 
Apple not the inventor of so many things, but...

They are brilliant at monetizing and create things that consumers just want. Things we simply just like using! Graphene may be the future, and if so, I'm certain Apple will use its advantages where it makes good sense!
 
The guy that wrote "2008 wants its headline back" is spot on since we'll be saying the same thing in another 5 years. This tech isn't anywhere close to making innovative changes in the electronics industry for at least another 10 years. You might see it used on small unimportant items in the next few years (like apple has done with the liquid metal SIM tool and sapphire home button), but considering a 1" wafer costs $100 and is extremely difficult to make in high quality don't expect it in a screen or chip anytime soon.
 
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