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Forget Apple. Innovation and Apple of late doen't go together. Things aren't what they were ten years ago.

Sadly true. Here's true innovation, Cupertino: keep the same chasis of the original iPhone but make the display 5.1 inches. Reduce bezels by changing the Home button from a circle to a pill shape. Samsung's Home button is perfect and its finger print scanner is just as good as the 5s, if not better.

Use the extra thickness to install a bigger battery. I need at least 48 hours of battery life for my mobile devices and the iPhone 5s's battery is virtually the same as the 2007 iPhone.

And while we're at it, bring back the optical drive! But Blu-ray this time. The Mac will continue to decline without Blu-ray. Oh, and no more Thunderbolt and Lightning. Those aren't innovations. USB is perfectly fine and better, in fact.
 
Cold fusion never existed. Graphene is real, just an issue of manufacturing.
Both are the domain of unanswered questions.
So while you think this is a smart comment it just makes you look silly.

:rolleyes:

It is also silly to imply that the use of Graphene is just a manufacturing issue.
 
I'm still skeptical about graphene after having read up on it a couple of months ago.

It has had way too many people talking up its magical powers for so long with next to nothing to show for all the potential unicorns and rainbows.

Don't get me wrong I would love to see this tech applied. But i'm not sure the manufacturing hurdles are full understood yet.

I too wish to see these unicorns and rainbows people keep talking about.
 
Forget Apple. Innovation and Apple of late doen't go together. Things aren't what they were ten years ago.

I've always said they never should have switched from PowerPC.


What the hell are you talking about though? Ten years ago? 2004? The only good thing I can think of from that point in time was.... hell, nothing. Tiger wasn't even out yet.
 
Sadly true. Here's true innovation, Cupertino: keep the same chasis of the original iPhone but make the display 5.1 inches. Reduce bezels by changing the Home button from a circle to a pill shape. Samsung's Home button is perfect and its finger print scanner is just as good as the 5s, if not better.

Use the extra thickness to install a bigger battery. I need at least 48 hours of battery life for my mobile devices and the iPhone 5s's battery is virtually the same as the 2007 iPhone.

And while we're at it, bring back the optical drive! But Blu-ray this time. The Mac will continue to decline without Blu-ray. Oh, and no more Thunderbolt and Lightning. Those aren't innovations. USB is perfectly fine and better, in fact.
I agree for the most part, but the ThunderBolt and Lightning - if still preposterously overpriced - are both more reliable than USB. Their smaller footprint is an advantage, too.
 
Every thing is toxic in one way or another. Drop some molten steel on your head and you are dead. Drink to much water and you end up dead. The focus on toxicity is nonsense and if taken to the extreme would turn us back to the dark ages.

Um. Water isn't toxic. Just because it can kill in excess you doesn't make it a toxin. Molten steel isn't either. Please look up the definition of "toxic."
 
Every thing is toxic in one way or another. Drop some molten steel on your head and you are dead. Drink to much water and you end up dead. The focus on toxicity is nonsense and if taken to the extreme would turn us back to the dark ages.

I can't tell if you're serious or not.
 
Not before we get people to learn about the subject before posting.

I shouldn't have to learn about it if I'm reading an article explaining the technology. After researching it for a few minutes, it looks like improved battery technology is a major benefit of graphene, so it would've been useful to include that in the article.
 
Title is misleading - samsung doesn't innovate, they copy.

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Forget Apple. Innovation and Apple of late don't go together. Things aren't what they were ten years ago.

First time on the internet? Don't quote the whole article.
 
I agree for the most part, but the ThunderBolt and Lightning - if still preposterously overpriced - are both more reliable than USB. Their smaller footprint is an advantage, too.

Huh, I find them to be no more or less reliable than USB, just easier to plug in backwards.

Edit: At least for lightning, Thunderbolt isn't all that comparable to USB.
 
You are demonstrating a significant disconnect from reality here.

Maybe not doomed, but the sure haven't done anything exciting in a while. You don't need a new product category, but why not new products. Tim likes to brag about his solar panels, and it being the best work of their lives, rather than making new products.
You do realize that in a few shirt years Apple went from buying other people's ARM based systems to designing some of the highest performance ARM cores out there. Apple innovation has been fairly incredible over the last couple of years.
The iPod touch is still using 3 year old technology, iPod nano was ruined, the iPhone 5c two year old technology, the iMac was made thinner and weaker (why a DESKTOP needs to be thinner is beyond me) the MacBook Pro hasn't seen much of a decent update. The MacBook Air received a minor spec bump and price drop (wow, revolutionary. going to change everything............ all over again!)
The Mac Book Air got all that Intel offered up. If you have any technology that could take the Air further please offer it up.

As to the Touch I and iPods in general, yeah Apple has been stupid with the product line. That is probably due to seeing it as declining technology.
They are getting sloppy with OS X releases. They just pack a bunch of features in each release every year. They could just polish each OS release and then focus on the next OS (go to a 2 or 3 year cycle)
Personally I think they are on the right track with Mac OS/X. For people that actually understand computer technology it is an excellent OS release.
The iPhone 5s has a faster CPU and a finger print reader (must be the best work of their lives) The only innovation as of late is the Mac Pro, and Timmy botched the launch of it, and honestly the decision to make it all external makes a nice mess.
You demonstrate significant ignorance with respect to the effort that goes into a CPU design and integration into a SoC.
I forgot to add, they release all these boring things at once and stay quiet for the rest of the year.
We don't know that yet.
Tim might be a good CEO, but they need another guy to motivate the company. So no, Apple is far from dooooooooomed, but they sure aren't very exciting anymore.

This is complete garbage considering just about every consumer electronics company is now copying their lead.
 
So lets say I have an iPhone just 1 atom thick ( which is presumably Apple's goal in all this ).

If I tried to pick it up, would it cut my fingers off like the sharpest blade imaginable?

Or would it just sort of slide in between my finger atoms and out of the other side, but without breaking any molecular bonds in my finger atoms, and not causing any harm or bleeding???

Anyone here qualified to answer this for me?

( Either way I'll be queuing up on launch day anyway, just want to know what to expect )

Either way you'd be screwed cause Samsung would copy their design and you'd still get cut.

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Maybe not doomed, but the sure haven't done anything exciting in a while. You don't need a new product category, but why not new products. Tim likes to brag about his solar panels, and it being the best work of their lives, rather than making new products.

The iPod touch is still using 3 year old technology, iPod nano was ruined, the iPhone 5c two year old technology, the iMac was made thinner and weaker (why a DESKTOP needs to be thinner is beyond me) the MacBook Pro hasn't seen much of a decent update. The MacBook Air received a minor spec bump and price drop (wow, revolutionary. going to change everything............ all over again!)

They are getting sloppy with OS X releases. They just pack a bunch of features in each release every year. They could just polish each OS release and then focus on the next OS (go to a 2 or 3 year cycle)

The iPhone 5s has a faster CPU and a finger print reader (must be the best work of their lives) The only innovation as of late is the Mac Pro, and Timmy botched the launch of it, and honestly the decision to make it all external makes a nice mess.

I forgot to add, they release all these boring things at once and stay quiet for the rest of the year.

Tim might be a good CEO, but they need another guy to motivate the company. So no, Apple is far from dooooooooomed, but they sure aren't very exciting anymore.

Check out that stock price. Haters gonna hate...
 
Forget Apple. Innovation and Apple of late don't go together. Things aren't what they were ten years ago.

Dude, you're whining. This misperception has been covered in places too numerous to count. Short answer: average interval of life-altering innovative product releases for Apple is around 6 years. For the competition, the timescale approaches infinity. :rolleyes:
 
Sadly true. Here's true innovation, Cupertino: keep the same chasis of the original iPhone but make the display 5.1 inches. Reduce bezels by changing the Home button from a circle to a pill shape. Samsung's Home button is perfect and its finger print scanner is just as good as the 5s, if not better.

Use the extra thickness to install a bigger battery. I need at least 48 hours of battery life for my mobile devices and the iPhone 5s's battery is virtually the same as the 2007 iPhone.

And while we're at it, bring back the optical drive! But Blu-ray this time. The Mac will continue to decline without Blu-ray. Oh, and no more Thunderbolt and Lightning. Those aren't innovations. USB is perfectly fine and better, in fact.

Re-Release the DUO with the dock and make the G3 chips faster. Update the floppy drives and make thinner floppies, so they can be Blu-Ray floppies.

Apple, innovate and go to black and white screens, much better for the eyes.

Why not develop a type of a baby carrying belt for my 128K first Mac ?
We can then carry them in front and the 9 inch screen is like an iPad then.
 
One thing I like about Apple is its elaborate use of materials in its products, from titanium and acrylic to the more recent aluminium and glass.

Looking forward to see what they have in store for sapphire… and weren’t there also news about them working on liquid metal? Sounds like exciting stuff.

What is interesting about Apples choice of materials for it's products. Especially it's mobile products, which don't live their live safe, sitting on a desk, but are by their nature items that will be moved around a lot, subject to much more wear and tear, it that Apple select materials totally unsuitable for such a task.

Materials are selected for looks and style more than practicalities and wear/damage resistance. Hence items have to be protected by more products as the materials used will damage too easily without them.

Nokia I think had it right many many years ago.
A totally replaceable, and therefore also customisable front and rear phone covers.
Made of plastic which could take knocks without damage, and can absorb impacts far better than aluminium and obviously glass, yet when even this plastic gets marked, simply unclipping both front and rear covers and replacing them with either official or 3rd party new case parts, make you phone effectively brand new again.
 
Either way you'd be screwed cause Samsung would copy their design and you'd still get cut.

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Check out that stock price. Haters gonna hate...

Monetary success now equates to how exciting they are? Interesting. I thought it had more to do with being a strong brand with loyal customers.
 
One step closer

E-Paper

In Minority Report, a scene shows David Anderton taking a busy subway train. At first glance, it looks like an average commuter scene, businessmen reading newspapers.. until you notice that the pictures and headlines on the newspapers are moving. The technology being featured here is a flexible, electronic paper-like material that can access the internet and update itself all day long. It looks futuristic.. but this technology is just round the corner. Researchers at PARC (formerly Xeroc PARC) are researching something called “Gyricon”. It is a flexible plastic that produces colors and readable text when a voltage is applied through it. Researchers claim that it requires very little electricity, is made of a light material and can be reused.
 

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Right down Apples alley. "Thinner" is their primary innovated skill nowadays (litigating is up there too). Forget functionality, lets go all in on form.

That's the goal. An iDevice 1 atom thin or maybe 3 atoms thin: graphene layer, tech layer, graphene layer. So thin, we can't even hardly see it: the "thinnest i_______ ever!"

After that, they'll just ship empty boxes and claim they've made the next one even thinner: "so thin you can't even see it."

Ahhhhh, the future… where the race to thin ultimately delivers the invisible, and margins go from 40% to 100% when we're all buying empty boxes.;)
 
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