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Graphene May Be Next Area of Innovation for Apple and Samsung

This is exciting. Unless a hardcore well funded tech company like apple or samsung backs and researches this the fact that it will create a better battery will put an end to it really quickly. The potential for taking revenue away from the petroleum industry is HUGE. If what happened in the documentary "who killed the electric car? " Happens here, the technology would purchased and shelved.
 
HobeSoundDarryl said:
That's the goal. An iDevice 1 atom thin or maybe 3 atoms thin: graphene layer, tech layer, graphene layer. So thin, we can't even hardly see it: the "thinnest i_______ ever!"

After that, they'll just ship empty boxes and claim they've made the next one even thinner: "so thin you can't even see it."

Ahhhhh, the future… where the race to thin ultimately delivers the invisible, and margins go from 40% to 100% when we're all buying empty boxes.;)
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Sir, you are dead wrong. At that point margin is 99.9%. You gotta pay for the boxes. One more step is needed, as they will have to make boxes so thin that they will be invisible. Then, and only then, margin will be 100%
 
dannyyankou said:
Can we get an innovation in battery technology first please?
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Graphene is it. It's basically a super-capacitor that can store a charge as fast as you can feed it. This would have huge potential for electric vehicles: a car's graphene structure itself could be a battery that would re-charge as quickly as a charging station would allow.

The main drawback with current graphene technology is how brittle it is; even though it's strong, it shatters very easily. That's where a lot of research is being focused. Solve that problem, and graphene really does have the potential to be a game-changing material.
 
jayducharme said:
Graphene is it. It's basically a super-capacitor that can store a charge as fast as you can feed it. This would have huge potential for electric vehicles: a car's graphene structure itself could be a battery that would re-charge as quickly as a charging station would allow.

The main drawback with current graphene technology is how brittle it is; even though it's strong, it shatters very easily. That's where a lot of research is being focused. Solve that problem, and graphene really does have the potential to be a game-changing material.
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Yep, a little odd that battery wasn't mentioned in the article. It could be huge based on the few articles I read today.
 
Wow if Apple or other manufacture can make this for the masses, the future is really like what we dream about in sci-fi movies with thin transparent screen :D.

looking forward to the day when I looked back at this article and cringe how old tech this was just like when I watched the 1983 mac video :D
 
MacRumors hyperbole said:
With global mobile device sales predicted to reach $847 billion by 2016 and wearable technology to explode to a $19 billion business in the next five years,
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so 19 billion of 847 is 2%.
But 19 billion is 5 years from now.
So even less than two percent.

Wearables will explode to 2 percent of the market in 5 years.

Not exactly what I would label 'exploding'

but MacRumors would!
 
Tired of the sensationalist videos about transparent and thin as a paper sheet phones & mobile devices.
They always forget the main thing which is not getting enough research (or anyway, enough concrete research success) : BATTERIES.

Call me back when you've shrinken batteries to paper thin form factor with a weeks life.
 
LeoNobilis said:
Forget Apple. Innovation and Apple of late don't go together. Things aren't what they were ten years ago.
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On the contrary, materials (not software) are the cutting edge for consumer electronics today, and Apple is as much of a leader as exists. Weight vs. strength vs. power consumption are the drivers for portability, and need to be driven by multi-billion dollar corporations who can fund the required capital investments. Today, a good deal of the most interesting software can be written by a 17 year old in his mom's basement.
 
phentex said:
Tired of the sensationalist videos about transparent and thin as a paper sheet phones & mobile devices.
They always forget the main thing which is not getting enough research (or anyway, enough concrete research success) : BATTERIES.

Call me back when you've shrinken batteries to paper thin form factor with a weeks life.
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A breakthrough in battery technology puts the gas stations out of business. The powers that be want gas stations to continue to exist. They'd rather chase Hydrogen fuel cells than anything toward an Arc reactor. It's unlikely that the masses can come up with some cheap, efficient way to make their own Hydrogen for filling fuel cells. However, the masses already have ways to simply plug in to tap a good amount of electricity for charging batteries.

Must keep the masses stopping by the gas stations regularly for some kind of fill up. A fill up of electricity begs for a consumer self-charging solution that would break the recurring dependency on the gas station. Can't let that happen. It is forbidden. :mad:
 
SmoMo said:
So lets say I have an iPhone just 1 atom thick ( which is presumably Apple's goal in all this ).

If I tried to pick it up, would it cut my fingers off like the sharpest blade imaginable?

Or would it just sort of slide in between my finger atoms and out of the other side, but without breaking any molecular bonds in my finger atoms, and not causing any harm or bleeding???

Anyone here qualified to answer this for me?

( Either way I'll be queuing up on launch day anyway, just want to know what to expect )
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First of all, that's not Apple's goal. But yes if the bonds between the carbon atoms of the "extremely strong" graphene then it could theoretically sever the bonds between molecules in your body. But it would appear to be impossible to push the graphene through your body since it is only 1 atom thick and flexible it would bend back before it penetrates your skin.

Source: Biochemistry degree
 
SmoMo said:
So lets say I have an iPhone just 1 atom thick ( which is presumably Apple's goal in all this ).

If I tried to pick it up, would it cut my fingers off like the sharpest blade imaginable?

Or would it just sort of slide in between my finger atoms and out of the other side, but without breaking any molecular bonds in my finger atoms, and not causing any harm or bleeding???
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Apple's implementation would be safe; but the cheap Chinese knockoffs would decapitate you. ;)
 
Mattsasa said:
Is it bad if WWDC is my favorite day of the year? Every year?
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Are you serious? Get a life! jk.

Its ONE of my favorite days for sure. Here is my order of top 5.

Daughters Bday - Feb 14th
NFL Draft - May 8th
WWDC - June
NFL Preseason - Aug.
NFL Season - Sept.
 
Liverpoolchap said:
web 2.0 can be so depressing.

http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/2010/press.html
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I can see that people are misinterpreting what I was trying to say.

Cold fusion was the next generation leap that could have changed the world in a way unlike anything that had come before it. To create more heat using less energy than it used, was truly a scientific revolution, (if possible).

Graphene is the same level of tech jump that cold fusion would have been. This opens doors that are currently closed due to insufficient materials - silicone, the material used in almost everything, has its limitations. If graphene were to be introduced and successful in what it is theorized to be capable of, this changes the tech world as we currently know it.
 
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